Ditto about time someone said it

Tell me about it!

Sounds like Hellboy might be related to one of the girls who has not had the court time they think she deserves???

The man should go to a couple of communication courses not only with the players but with every one he deals with connected with basketball
He is in a position where he should be approachable, informed and on the ball - go John Gilles - that is a class act

I remember Chris telling me once that he gave up reading this forum ages ago because of all the crap that gets posted. Now I see what he is on about. Chris is a quality guy and a terrific coach. Yes he gets a little agro at times, but that's just because he's so intense and has high expectations of those around him. And as for having one training drill, either you haven't been there or you haven't been paying much attention.

WTF. I am not related to any of them

Cat in the Hat.
You must be one of the assistant coaches?
Mate, a "terrific coach" can communicate with his players!
Stop Sucking up!

wow, cool...i thought it was the lack of success that brought about the "sack the coach" posts, but seems not to be the case.

I have no clue as to what goes on in lightning land..gotta love the passion here tho...hehehe and reading this, if Phil thinks winning is going alleviate the problem posts looks like hes got another thing coming lol.

chris seems fine, the team, crowd all seem tickledy boo as present - I do agree on not working a play for rasmussen though.

we have underutilized her for sure

erin has to work her way back yet - she might be going nowhere after the knee recon

HellBoy

No I am not one of the assistant coaches, but I know Chris well enough to know that you are way off the mark with some of your comments. Whatever, you are welcome to your opinion. The bottom line is that those that matter, value Chris highly enough to re-sign him.

Cat in the Hat, When you say those that matter dont you mean his friends in high places!

Yes Anonymous (#116044) I find your comments mildly amusing too!

You said in your post This is funny - I love it when people say that "a blind monkey can coach that team"? Do you understand that one of the hardest coaching jobs you can have is when you have an extremely talented team?

What a crock!....You have never coached have you?
I have coached many different teams at many different skill levels for 20 years. Give me an extremely talented team any day!

You also said
But has a head coach in the WNBL, he gets paid to win games. Bottom line. Not stroke egos. Not run fun drills. Win games. And for 3 straight seasons he has done that.

Who said anything about stroking ego's, just treat each individual with respect, and talk to them as adults.

Not run fun drills, no but more than 1 would be a good idea. How bout u actually read the post before u put up ignorant crap like this!

Win games. And for 3 straight seasons he has done that. .You missed the whole point ..Go back to sleep!!

"Who do you suggest instead?..... How about Rachel Sporn or Rupert Sapwell?. I am sure we will be able to find someone in this state that could do the job!...and if not, recruit from interstate!

cat in the hat: i may be way off the mark with some of my comments, BUT many of the players and those involved with the team KNOW i am right with most of the comments i have made...
and sure those that matter have re-signed him...but remember what i said about a YES man!....
I guarantee you Angela will play for the lightning next year...and then things will start to slide...
I Love the lightning and dont want to see this happen, that is why i cant shut-up and not voice my views.
Private ownership can be a great thing....but as we see there can also be a downside! I know Vince means well and is awesome for putting up the money for the team, But i just see he has made one mistake by re-signing lucas, and it looks like another for next year by bringing Angela here!

well hellboy perhaps you should have bought the team because obviously none of the players or those involved in the team have mentioned anything to anyone but you that there is a problem. If there really was a problem why haven't they spoken to mike daws or vince himself??

Personally I don't attend many lightning games the ones I have been too and seen on TV they have done a pretty good job. When I asked someone who has much more contact with the team about the court time of Kristen it was mentioned that she still doesn't feel 100% on her ankle and doesn't want to do anything to damage it further and hinder her WNBA career - which is number 1 for her.

Benj you said...
"well hellboy perhaps you should have bought the team because obviously none of the players or those involved in the team have mentioned anything to anyone but you that there is a problem. If there really was a problem why haven't they spoken to mike daws or vince himself??"

Benj, how naïve are you? It just doesn't work that way.
A players first point of contact should be the coach, if he is unapproachable (which is the case here) it would be extremely hard for a player to approach the GM let alone the owner!

These girls have worked extremely hard to get to this level and I am sure it would put them in a difficult situation to go above the coach's head. So quite often they just have to Grin and bear it!

This is what bugs the life out of me is that these girls do grin and bear it&and those responsible are left looking like things are just rosy

You then went on to say...
"Personally I don't attend many lightning games the ones I have been too and seen on TV they have done a pretty good job. When I asked someone who has much more contact with the team about the court time of Kristen it was mentioned that she still doesn't feel 100% on her ankle and doesn't want to do anything to damage it further and hinder her WNBA career - which is number 1 for her."

As happy as she may have been with limited court time due to her injury, the point is she is not starting AND has been benched for the entire 4th quarters in their last two games. WHY THE HELL WOULD U DO THAT?

Lucas would not be benching her because her ankle hurt, he would be benching her because he is ticked that it might be sore&.his answer to injuries is to blame the player&remember the article where Erin Phillips and Rasmussen were chewed out because of their injuries...Kristen's injury was referred to as an .."ALLEGED ANKLE INJURY"...and Erin got heaps of crap because she needed to rest her calf& Any coach who thinks, accusing his players of faking their injuries will make them try harder, should NOT be in the game!....END OF STORY!

a coach's first priority, should be the player and his or her's health, because without the player you haven't got a team.
to not believe a player is genuinely suffering from an injury and expecting them to play though an injury is asking for trouble.
any coach who expects this of a player in my opinion is not a good coach.
hopefully this is not what caused Erin's injury.
I have seen a player sit with their foot in an ice bucket for 15 mins and then be put on the court and expected to play, and this was a junior team.
the player themselves know how serious their injury is and maybe this is the case with Kristen.

business arising - I have had many occassions to intereview Chris Lucas as a media reporter, and have found him quite communicative and very forthcoming with any information I have asked him.

To others claiming to "know" there are problems with Chris and the girls, these allleged problems would reflect in the on court performance (36ers anyone??!!??) a team in crisis does not perform well.

To those whining about your favourite player not getting the court time you think they deserve, Coach Lucas has always been one to play the players who are going to give the team what they need at that point in the game.

I recall a game early in the season Dee came iin to sub with about 2 mins left in the 1st 1/2...there was no stoppage in that time, and by the time she would have normally come in in the 3rd, the game had changed so much she was not the right person for the game at that time. Result - DNP...end result..Lightning won.


Get off the whinge and get behind the girls as they go into the finals!

Bye bye Dee

(#117023) Anonymous, i am not related to erin or have i ever talked to her...you wrote "Erin didn't get crap for resting her calf. It was her hamstring"...ok it was her hamstring...did u read this forum or the paper when it happened....she got heaps of crap thrown at her...she is one of the best at the point in the country....if you would have her go else where then GET a LIFE and go and watch soccer u TOOL! cos u know nothing about this sport..By the way....Why do u hide behind Anonymous...whats ya real name....is it Mrs Lucas?

hey Anonymous....if you have a look around most people post under an alias...so regular posters know each other or have an idea of that persons "slant" on things...i think that is what Hellboy is getting at...too often Anonymous posters put up stuff but are not willing to show anything about them selves...from what i have read from hellboy's posts...he is a very Passionate lightning fan!