I am not in the know.
comment; I don't think that it;s likely to happen.

where'd you get your info from???

Nothing in my circle.

pickles your obviously not in the loop

Looks like it IS on the cards but if it will happen by Summer season depends on how BSA gets moving. Talk is 3, 4 and 5 playing regionally against country and may not be necessarily on a Sat arvo.

get rid of them i say, especially the div 3 mens league

ELG - Why are you dirty on Div 3 mens league ?

hey ELG where would you play them - heard you dont wont to play with the big boys

With my study commitments I can bearly train once a week, but make it out when I can and love playing, even though it is only div 5 for my club;the same club I have played for for the last 5 years.

If they want to change us over to a different comp, fine; however I am hard justifiying my time now, so I would pull out all together.

What a stupid, stupid idea!

so much hate on this forum

Seems a bit unfair for div 3 players on the cusp of cracking div 2, suddenly to be thrust into a social ball comp. And not to mention the loss of income for an already struggling organisation


(mahatma cote i play div 3 men)

Are you too old to play juniors or not good enough for seniors, not being a tool but if your good enough they usually would bring players through that are deserving of a spot. or is it a case of different strokes at some clubs.

Probably juniors. It is a bit hard to imagine clubs giving up revenue from Div 3 down, also how would they manage it when a 1st year Div 3 becomes a possible 2nd year Div 2?
Unfortunatly some clubs have so much depth/players it is hard for a really good Div 3 player to progress. I am sure they do not like holding kids back but sometimes they have no choice. Also kids develop at different ages and some just go to other sports. Div 3 should always remain part of district competition.
Div 1 and 2 are always guaranteed coaches though! Would BASA allow some of the bigger clubs to field two Div 1 teams, as well as two Div 2's!!?

for juniors dont get rid of div 3,4,5, keep them, let the kids have fun anyway. no dv 3,4,5 means more in a team, and for those people who complain about no court time, this will only get worse.
keep div 3,4,5 i say, for seniors its more of a social anyway

who travels hours to get to a game?

what about clubs like magic, cougars and rattlers will they dispan or would they be able to compete just at social level.

how would centrals and mavs go when not competeing in the div 1 level, would another club be able to fill the void with a second team to strengthen the comp?

I don't think the powers that be have understood the problem. In some areas, every available court is in constant use weeknights & over the weekend. If you want to increase participation, you'll have to build more courts.

Having a regional comp actually makes the problem worse, as it serves to exaggerate any local shortage or surplus of courts.

I think they should go back to social basketball where they from. Most are just that social teams that came into clubs because it is more organized. There is no need for the lower div's at all.

If it's juniors you're talking about, you need lower divs for financial reasons, and to cater for late developers. Remember that Tim Brenton played 14 div 5 , and look where he ended up. Also, and most importantly, kids want to belong to a club and play with their mates.
If it's seniors, you still need div 3 as a feeder for young kids with potential who are not ready for div1 & 2. Div 4 & 5 are social ball anyway so it comes down to whether people want to be involved with an organised club or not.

The other question is , would the competition be better if it were changed? My opinion is that change for the sake of change rarely gains anything, and wastes time and money to implement.

it will stay - whilst people pay their fees , roll up for a game - why play with something that isn't broke???

district is not all elite

there is a pretty good mavs unit kicking around in div 3 at present!

I seem to recall district was div.1&2 and mostly church/social in regions !

to see the potential impact, have a close look at the City South league that Sturt and Forestville created. Essentially, rather than have a second training, Div 4/5 players played a second game on sunday arvos (and players not quite ready for div 5 were slotted in here to develop). In early days it was a little lacking, and seemed to fall a fair way behind the district level very quickly. Not sure how it's developed recently - but could have a look at it to gauge possible impact if we were to get rid of div 3/4/5. Personally, I can see no benefit to scrapping the lower divs. Having them there makes it easier to watch the lower kids develop etc.

I understand that City South is poorly managed and underdeveloped. Most of the kids I know in Div3 and below would be horrified to be included in this style of program.
My Div 3 youngster absolutely loves district basketball as do all of her teammates. I guess District gives them a sense of importance even though the clubs really only like to support their elite. Maybe one day they will be "elite" too or a least valued.I think BSA needs to retain Div 3at least.

There is no plan to get rid of div 3,4 and 5.....these players are vital to the game and if anything the plans are to develop and make this competition stronger.
Regional comps are not going to reduce the standard, infact it will increase the standard by introducing more players, more competition. The only plans being discussed are looking at ways to reduce the travel and cost of playing. The lower division competition will always be there, the current plans will add more players below it, that part of the competition may possibly be operated in a different format

City South is not designed to replace div 3, 4 and 5. It is offering a competition for people who do not want the full on structure of district basketball.
Yes lower division teams were used to get it going, but it has all but evolved past that.
It is now attracting players like private school children whocannot commit to Saturday mornings.
City South needs more clubs to get involved other than Forestville and Sturt.

Is it another of BSA great initiatives or just bulls..t spilling from some "elitists" mouths? Juniors love the idea of belonging to a Club. Some of them develop later then others and taking them out of the Club environment would mean loosing these kids to the sport all together. Having lower divisions also adds to the pressure for the chosen ones in div 1 and 2 (some of them only being there by "accident"  I leave it there) and ensures that the standard and some gauging is maintained and there is a ready to pick from pool if talents are spotted.

They will always be part of the Clubs, can I suggest rather than jumping to a whole lot assumptions, we wait and look at what is proposed when it is proposed.
Yes there is a lot of discussion going on with a lot of different ideas for the future. All of the concepts are focused on getting more people playing the game.....no one is talking about reducing the standard of what we have

SAD its on the table NOW! And 3/4/5 will be as stated if the new board gets its way. And the clubs no longer have so much say in it. Stay tuned or go ask your Club President how much they know.

No, this a genuine initiative from BSA. Will require enormous consultation with the clubs. ie Strategy, finance, cost effectiveness, boundaries,stadium use, social implications, team structure, fees, parent feedback, progression for kids.......

Does 3/4/5 out of District mean that they definitely wont get Coaches? Will it be left up to Mum and Dads?

Does it then take the pressure off the Div 1 Coaches, Clubs and the JDO's to supply coaches to these lower divisions - interesting that this thread has come up when in another thread - complaints about not having enough coaches for these divs was raised!

anon
I know its on the table now......
I can confirm none of the clubs will be treating their 3,4 and 5 teams as social teams. The structure of the competition may change, but the standard will only improve. I suggest you go speak to your Club President, the proposed concept ( and I mean proposed, nothing has been set in concrete yet)is that the Clubs will be running the competition for lower divisions.
After saying that there is an enourmous amount of planning to do yet, everything is in concept stage.
The final governing structure has not been finally approved, competition structure is a long way off.
Why post rubbish on this site, and generate concerns when it is not real.
I will say it again......the Clubs will not allow the weakening of the lower division comp......they will always be part of their Club.

SAD never said the clubs would treat the 3/4/5's as social. Yes it is on the table as clubs are being asked to discuss. No its in the planning stage but looking at it the current District clubs are not getting as much say as they are used to. Thats all I was saying. Not wanting to post rubbish- I didnt start the thread. And my kids arent in Div one so it is of interest to me - do I still pay the same fees- what trainings will we get etc. Just posing the questions Im sure many would be thinking.

if its gonna be the same as how they've been running the div 4's for the past 2 seasons its not that big of a deal in fact its quite good but i can't see the comp or clubs wanting to lose money by treating these guys as lower class ball players thats would result in alot of people walking away from ball

Different impacts on clubs areas age. Would suit some that just want to have a game in the area.

So, has anything been decided yet?