Isaac
Years ago

Pat Mills named WCC Player of the Month

From Basketball Australia:

Australia Post Boomers and Saint Mary's College freshman point guard Patrick Mills has been named West Coast Conference Player of the Month for November.

Mills, a 19-year old Canberran, led his side to a 5-0 start during the month, including a 99-87 win over then-No.11-ranked Oregon University where he tallied a freshman record 37 points, 5 assists and 2 steals.

Saint Mary's is a small catholic college located in California, USA, and is enjoying its best start to a season in nearly two decades, with Mills ranked sixth in the WCC in scoring with 15.8 points per game during the month of November.

Mills also led the conference in assists (5.0 per game), steals (3.0 per game), and free throw percentage (96.2 per cent).

Mills and the Gaels will return to action this weekend in the John Wooden Classic when the Gaels play the San Diego State Aztecs in Anaheim, California, early on Sunday morning, Australian Eastern time.

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XztatiK  
Years ago

96.2 FT% holy crap!

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Max  
Years ago

A great player in one of the NCAA'S Weakest conferences!

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Ricey  
Years ago

yea but when you put numbers up like that against a top ranked team, you can't really say he is over rated now can you. will be interesting to see where he takes the team this year

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DB5  
Years ago

Max, is that tall poppy syndrome, or are you just a tool..

An Aussie receives an award, and you bag him??

Pfftt.....

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kad  
Years ago

Max check out the latest NCAA rankings. The Zags are ranked 17 and St Mary's are ranked 26th (which isnt an official ranking, but you get the idea..).

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/polls?poll=1

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twenty four  
Years ago

Max is right to a degree, WCC is mostly a sub-par mid-major conference with a few decent teams. Not too much to right home about, but a decent job none the less.

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Pete  
Years ago

twenty four - i wouldn't say you are wrong, but i also wouldn't say you are write!

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twenty four  
Years ago

No? I'd say that's a fair assessment, as a mid-major conf they're decent, but overall it's nothing special.

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Matt Wens  
Years ago

Great job by Mills. Get off his spine lads... noone here could do that.

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Rodney Carney  
Years ago

Thats a fair point about the weakness of the conference but think about this, when his team had a chance to play against a pretty good Oregon side from the 'high major' Pac 10, look how he did. Put him in Any conference... you would get more of the same.

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ANON12  
Years ago

If you were lucky enough to see the game against Oregon on ESPN the commentators raved about Patrick. His firts two 3 point shots were out past the NBA circle range which was noted. Interesting comment was that being a small college they found it difficult to recruit high profile american players and that is why they recruited in Australia (four Aussies on the roster). Following is interesting article from San Francisco newspaper:


Gaels go Down Under to move up the ladder
Jake Curtis

Wednesday, December 5, 2007
(12-04) 20:23 PST -- St. Mary's is almost famous.

The Gaels remain unranked, which keeps them a mystery to most of America, but they are on the cusp of their first national ranking since 1989, already owning what would be the No. 26 slot in both Top 25 polls. In fact, they are a single point from being ranked in the USA Today poll.
If St. Mary's beats San Diego State (7-1) in Anaheim on Saturday, however, the Gaels could make that small but meaningful leap to No. 25. Then the country would start noticing that this team is scoring points by the bushel, that it easily handled two top-drawer teams and that it has a distinct Australian flavor accented by a standout freshman point guard with the less-than-intimidating name of Patty.
"The four of them start talking about stuff and no one else can understand them," said St. Mary's sophomore Omar Samhan, who lives with two of the team's four Aussies.
They communicate just fine on the court. Three of the Aussies are part of the Gaels' nine-man rotation that has produced the school's first 6-0 start in 19 years, and one of them, Patty Mills, is the chief reason St. Mary's has become a fast-breaking offensive machine almost overnight.
"Mills is instant transition," coach Randy Bennett said.
Bennett would not dare compare Mills with Jason Kidd, but the coach notes that putting the ball in Kidd's hands automatically begins a fast break and says Mills has that same effect.
The presence of Mills and three other quick guards - and not a change in Bennett's coaching style - is why the Gaels are averaging 86 points a game. St. Mary's averaged 61 points in Bennett's first season, 2001-02.
"This is kind of the way we wanted to play the past several years," fifth-year guard Todd Golden said.
Now, though, Bennett has the players to do it, thanks, in large part, to that Australian pipeline, although it's not really a pipeline so much as a domino effect begun by a stroke of luck.
Bennett had not even seen Adam Caporn play in high school, but Bennett needed a point guard, had a scholarship available and somebody said this kid from Australia was pretty good. So Caporn arrived in 2001, helped the Gaels, felt good about the school and had been teammates with another Aussie, Daniel Kickert, who figured St. Mary's might work for him, too. Kickert turned into an all-conference player who helped the Gaels get into the 2005 NCAA Tournament.
"Adam opened the door for Australia," Bennett said. "If it hadn't been for him, we wouldn't have gotten Kickert, and if hadn't been for Kickert, we wouldn't have gotten Mills."
So far, Bennett has had six Aussies play for him - and he's recruiting more.
As important as the Aussies is the improvement of Samhan, a 6-foot-11 center. Not a particularly nimble player last season, Samhan worked out on the track in the offseason, dropped 20 pounds and can keep up with the Gaels' fast-paced attack.
"Yeah, he can run on offense," Bennett said. "He likes to score."
It's a veiled reference to Samhan's defensive shortcomings, a concern because the Gaels have yet to play a team with a strong low-post presence. More significant is that the Gaels have yet to play a game anywhere but McKeon Pavilion, their 3,500-seat arena (the smallest among the 50 schools that received votes in either poll this week).

Saturday's game in Anaheim is their first game away from home, and Tuesday's game at Southern Illinois will be their first game on an opponent's court. Bennett knows teams prove their worth on the road, but he has been surprised at how well his team has played so far at home.

Beating then-No. 12 Oregon and previously unbeaten Seton Hall was not shocking, but dominating both teams the way St. Mary's did surprised almost everyone.
"Me too," Bennett said.


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twenty four  
Years ago

I'm disputing that Rod, and I'm not trying to say that Pat is not a great talent. In fact, I was mistified by his decision to go to St M's, as I too thought he could do well in a stronger conference. I was just backing up Max to an extent after he had some people on his back about his comments, which were quite true and fair.

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twenty four  
Years ago

Should say 'I'm not disputing that....'!!

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Max  
Years ago

im not bagging mills, in fact i loved watching him play against Oregon and i defitnetly see him as an NBA Prospect. Maybe im just not as happy as you australians, because us kiwis don't have and probably never will have a player like mills.:(

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Andy  
Years ago

Really, do any of you understand how NCAA basketball works? All teams are currently on a non-conference part of their schedules, and St. Mary's is playing some of the top teams in the country. And Pat Mills is curshing the competition.

The WCC is in the upper 1/3 of the NCAA conferences. It ranks around 9-10 out of 30 conferences. It has produced lots of NBA players, including Steve Nash and Adam Morrison. Patty is getting massive national attention as it stands, inlcuding ESPN and CBS articles. That is amazing for a Freshmen. St Mary's was a perfect choice.

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twenty four  
Years ago

Andy, I really question you're knowledge of the NCAA if you think that being around number 10 out of all the conferences is anything to write home about. Big 12, ACC, Pac 10, Big East are the big conferences. After that, with a few exceptions, there is a massive drop off in quality. Around half of the NCAA's div 1 conferences are pretty much irrelevant when it comes to sport.

And I'm not sure what not being in conference play yet has to do with anything? Pat's still gotta beat the same guys from the same teams to win the award.

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Andy  
Years ago

That simply isn't true. There have been some killer runs in the NCAA tourney in recent years from teams in mid-major conferences. Southern Illinois, Gonzaga, Butler and George Mason come to mind. The whole BCS-superiority complex is for the most part a myth- because the vast majority of the time the BCS teams refuse to play good mid-major teams and simply schedule poor low-majors at home. When a BCS team does get the guts to play the decent mid-majors, we see large "upsets" like St Mary's-Oregon. Or St Mary's-Seton Hall. Or Kentucky-USD. Same reason that Pac-10 Washington refuses to play WCC Gonzaga anymore, gonzaga was producing superior teams (thereby beating Washington) and the media attention damaged the myth that the Pac-10 was a constantly superior to other western Mid-Majors. It's been going on for years and it is an unfair assumption.

As an American living on the West Coast, I can tell you straight up that your impression of NCAA hoops is wrong. There are massive fan support for many non-BCS teams up and down the West Coast, the mid-majors are hardly irrelevant. Recruits notice this too- St Mary's is recuriting large recruits over power schools- such as Cal, Arizona St., Marquette and Oklahoma.

The fact that these are non-conference games is important to note for people that don't understand NCAA basketball. Pat Mills is going up against some of the best players in the nation from power conferences, not the "massive drop off in quality" that you believe to be the level of play in WCC-Conference schedule.

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DB5  
Years ago

Fair call Max, understood..he he


Was a great story on Sports Tonight last night regarding Mills. Apparently, he has NBA scouts watching him at every game now, and is being talked about as being drafted after his Freshman year..

Personally, I think he should do another year, but the NBA is about right place, right time. He could go first round this year, or his stock could drop and he may go undrafted after a poor second season.

Then there is always the injury factor, being 5 10? and driving against the big boys...Would hate to have a major injury before being drafted.
Big decision for him..

Thoughts people?

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Andy  
Years ago

At this point, I don't think Patty is ready for the NBA. He still somewhat inconsistent and needs more time to prove that his skill/IQ/speed/intangibles overcome his lack of size. Which in time, I think he absolutely will prove that his game more then makes up for a few inches. Again, I have never seen a more mature freshmen in my life whether as a court general or as a impact scorer. Evidentially, former Sacramento Kings coach Eric Mussellman agrees with me. As for an comparison with a NBA player- I think in the best case he is TJ Ford. Worst case is that he is unable to compete at the NBA level due to size or lack of muscle.

I think he will enter the draft after 3 years if Bennett sticks around or perhaps only 1-2 if Bennett goes elsewhere.

Some NBA scouting:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Patrick-Mills-1362/

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rotate on this  
Years ago

I was thinking the TJ Ford comparison is not to far off . Mills would have the edge in Shooting range and natural scoring mentality whilst Ford would have an edge in most other facets .
If Mills continues his rise and i think he will there is no doubt he could overcome the height issues and be an NBA player .

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DB5  
Years ago

Can Mills dunk?
I don't recall seeing any footage of him dunking.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Was interesting to see Mills for the first time over a number of matches wearing a strong and thick knee support on his L knee. Slight injury?

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twenty four  
Years ago

Andy, I totally agree with your post, I'm just not sure why you bring up those points like I am disputing them. I'm not saying that St Mary's is a bad team (which would be stupid, they're most likely tourney bound) and I'm not saying that every single mid-major school is rubbish. Your point of many smaller schools making runs in the tourney is quite irrelevant though, one school doesn't make a conference. There will always be exceptions to the rule, I am aware of that. But I'm talking about conferences as a whole, not just the top couple of teams.

I also hate this whole 'he's playing against the best schools in the country' stuff. I know he they are playing a decent schedule and doing well. But how many decent schools don't take on some tough teams over non-conf play? Very little. And let's be honest, he's only played a few of these big time programs, and a whole bunch of small schools, including some D2 ones. Which again, many schools do, but it's not as if St M's are taking on top 25 team night in and night out.

Anyway, this has gone way too far. I was only trying to bring a voice of reason in the first place, not trying to shoot down Pat (who, as I've said before, support and am happy to see doing so well), St Mary's (bit hard to argue with cold hard facts) or anything like.

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