TR
Years ago

NBA All-Teams released

The NBA All-Teams have been released...

1st Team:
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Garnett
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Chris Paul

2nd Team:
Steve Nash
Deron Williams
Tim Duncan
Dirk Nowitzki
Amaré Stoudemire

3rd Team:
Manu Ginobili
Tracy McGrady
Carlos Boozer
Paul Pierce
Yao Ming

Other players receiving votes, with point totals: Allen Iverson, Denver, 116;
Carmelo Anthony, Denver, 89;
Marcus Camby, Denver, 59;
Chauncey Billups, Detroit, 38;
Baron Davis, Golden State, 32;
David West, New Orleans, 24;
Rasheed Wallace, Detroit, 22;
Tyson Chandler, New Orleans, 18;
Antawn Jamison, Washington, 15;
Al Jefferson, Minnesota, 14;
Chris Bosh, Toronto, 11;
Joe Johnson, Atlanta 8;
Andre Miller, Philadelphia, 7;
Caron Butler, Washington, 5;
Shaquille O'Neal, Phoenix, 5;
Pau Gasol, Los Angeles Lakers , 5;
Kevin Martin, Sacramento, 4;
Ray Allen, Boston, 4;
Hedo Turkoglu, Orlando, 3;
Jason Kidd, Dallas, 2;
Josh Howard, Dallas, 2;
Richard Hamilton, Detroit, 2;
Andre Iguodala, Philadelphia, 1;
Brandon Roy, Portland, 1;
Michael Redd, Milwaukee, 1;
Tayshaun Prince, Detroit, 1;
Tony Parker, San Antonio, 1.

No real problems with the teams, pretty spot on in my books.

I'm surprised David West received some many votes. He's really starting to blossom into a perennial All-Star. This is from a guy that was average 3ppg and 4rpg in his rookie season.

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billo  
Years ago

Who's giving Michael Redd that 1 vote?

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Big Marty  
Years ago

That's a hateful First team. Wish that combo was possible for an all-star weekend. Maybe it we divide the conferences on a diagonal line.... hmm...

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thedoctor  
Years ago

What about Yao? Missed a third of the season.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Speaking of Yao, I was just reading this article where it mentions him hoping to play in some exhibition games before the Olympics. I am going over to Shanghai to see an Australian team (not the Boomers) play China and have been hoping that Yao and Yi will play, so hopefully he'll be fit by early July.

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James W  
Years ago

If that was the dream team line up for this coming olympics (do they even still use the 'Dream Team' moniker?), then it'd be pretty much gameover (well, it should be - barring a meltdown like in Athens).

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Run TMC  
Years ago

I still think Yao's two-thirds of a season was better than any other centre's full season (except for Howard and Amare obviously). Camby is maybe the only one who could've made it but he seems to go missing a bit too often for my liking.

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lockstock  
Years ago

That would have to be close to the best first team ever surely?

As for the second team - 2 point guards and 3 power forwards? How is that a "team"?

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Run TMC  
Years ago

That team would definitely be up there lockstock as would these:

Kidd, Kobe, Garnett, Duncan, Shaq (03-04)

Jordan, Magic, Olajuwon, Barkley, Malone (88-89)

Jordan, Magic, Olajuwon, Barkley, Bird (87-88)

Isiah, Magic, Kareem, Dominique, Bird (85-86)

Robertson, West, Wilt, Baylor, Barry (66-67)







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Run TMC  
Years ago

That team would definitely be up there lockstock - but I think CP3 and Howard need to be All NBA regulars for a couple of years yet for that to be a truly great team. These teams would also be up there as the best ever:

Kidd, Kobe, Garnett, Duncan, Shaq (03-04)

Jordan, Magic, Olajuwon, Barkley, Malone (88-89)

Jordan, Magic, Olajuwon, Barkley, Bird (87-88)

Isiah, Magic, Kareem, Dominique, Bird (85-86)

(actually probably any team from the 80's)

Robertson, West, Wilt, Baylor, Barry (66-67)







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lockstock  
Years ago

good call - some amazing teams there.

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Run TMC  
Years ago

Apologies about the double post above.

Just one more thing on the Camby versus Yao debate. Yao scored 500 more points than Camby did even though he played 24 fewer games. You would assume there was a minimum number of games to qualify and Yao obviously achieved that.

Whilst Camby's other numbers are extremely impressive I'm not sure his 9 ppg average is good enough for an All NBA team. I wonder what the lowest ever scoring average is of a player to make an All NBA team?

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TR  
Years ago

I take the first teams below over this years. I'd have to go with the 87-88 team by a bees d**k over the 88-89 team (probably bias cause I dislike Malone)

Jordan, Magic, Olajuwon, Barkley, Malone (88-89)

Jordan, Magic, Olajuwon, Barkley, Bird (87-88)

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Run TMC  
Years ago

Yeah 87-88 was pretty awesome. In fact the SECOND team was probably better than a few first teams:

Stockton, Drexler, Ewing, Wilkins, Malone

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TR  
Years ago

So basically the first and second team in 87-88 was the Dream Team in 92, minus Wilkins, adding Robinson, Laettner, Mullin


*$$#ing Laettner..... shouldn't be even mentioned in that class of players

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Dana  
Years ago

Isaac,
Please pass on my regards to Jonas Kazlauskas! He should remember me from Adelaide & Wollongong. Tell him Casino in Adelaide and Hotel in Wollongong.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Dana, I'm sure he'll be trivial to locate...

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M Dizzle  
Years ago

I haven't checked but in answer to your question run tmc, i'd have to say Ben Wallace in his DPOY seasons with the Pistons?

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thedoctor  
Years ago

Wallace only ever made the 2nd team. Scoring average is probably the reason?

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M Dizzle  
Years ago

I'm fairly sure he was referring to any one of the 3 all nba teams, i could be wrong though.

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Run TMC  
Years ago

Yep, I was referring to any of the 3 teams. Pretty good effort from Wallace - he was selected in the second or third team in five consecutive seasons and didn't average more than ten points per game in any of them!

Rodman is the only other player I can think of who wouldn't have averaged more than 10 ppg. He made it in 91-92 and 94-95 with averages of 9.8 and 7.1. Mind you his rebounding averages were 18.7 and 16.8 in those two years!

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thedoctor  
Years ago

My bad - in that case, an unresearched guess says Wallace.

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Run TMC  
Years ago

AFAIK Wallace is lowest with 6.9 ppg in 02-03 (to go with 15.4 rpg and 3.2 bpg). Rodman's 7.1 is next I think.

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Kriss  
Years ago

Shame to see Andrew Bogut didn;t receive one vote for any team- what was his seasons avgerages?

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Run TMC  
Years ago

Agree about Bogut, especially considering Redd got a vote!

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Man, no one is showing love for T mac. 22 straight wins without Yao! I mean come on

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Iverson got snubbed... badly.

played all 82 games, had better ppg, apg, FG%, and steals than T-Mac...

yet T-Mac played 66 games (62 starts), and during the all-star break said he didn't deserve to be an All-Star

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Oh thats right, Iversons not even the best player on his team anymore, and he plays with probably the most talented starting 5 in the league

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Ingles13  
Years ago

All the all-nba team players were from playoff teams.
Odd that denver had the 3 highest scoring players which didnt make the team.
Lack of votes for Turkoglu saddens me.
I think Gasol and Bosh shouldve got more votes.

Who would win in a 5 on 5 on 5 game?

I reckon the 1st team would win, followed by the 3rd team over the 2nd team

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cheezeburger  
Years ago

how did nash and pierce make it.they have had terrible seasons.

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3  
Years ago

I think the difference with David West now compared to his Rookie season is that he's actually getting a lot of playing time. He's obviously improved as well to warrant it, but everyone's numbers go up when you get playing time, you'd assume.

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Quagmire  
Years ago

You have all missed the biggest snub out there.

Tony Parker should be on the second team instead of Nash, and to still be left off the thrid team for his team-mate Gino?

Who do you think is more important to the spurs? An X-factor bench guy or the starting point man and reigning finals MVP!!!!

FFS.

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jules  
Years ago

"X-Factor bench guy"...ginobili? wow...

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Quagmire  
Years ago

Jules- Gino is awesome, truly awesome, but he is not the player Tony P is.

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