i suppose philly would be a good one.

Allen Iverson
Doc J
charles barkley
moses malone
wilt chamberlain

bench
nate thurmond
mo cheeks

thats if you where going extremely big

Boston!

Russell
Bird
McHale
Havlicek
Cousy (an All-time great PG)

Pierce
Garnett
Dennis Johnson (a great PG)
JoJo White
Sam Jones
KC Jones
Ray Allen

I know KG & Ray have only been there for 1 season, but you could substitute them with Dave Cowens, Cedric Maxwell, Don Nelson & probably a few others from the 50's & 60's.

Maybe Houston too!

Moses Malone
Hakeem Olajuwon
Tracy McGrady
Steve Francis
Robert Horry

Clyde Drexler
Wiggins/Reid (70's/80's)
Kenny Smith

Not in the Celtics or Lakers class though!

'Would go with Lakers over Boston due to the lack of an all time great point gaurd. '

what are you, stupid? Cousy, man

Ive got one for Phoenix!

C Shaq
PF Stoudemire
F Grant Hill
SG Raja Bell
G Steve nash

do u think this team would win

Mr clutch! didnt see your name. Well Boston would win because Parish is the man (who you forgot, lethal5, good one (Ray Allen? All he can do is shoot))

Ive got one for Portland

Sabonis
Bill Walton
Pippen
Drexler
PG?

Pretty good, eh

Detroit Pistons

PG - Isaiah Thomas
SG - Joe Dumars
SF - Grant Hill
PF - Rasheed Wallace
C - Ben Wallace

Chauncey Billups
Dennis Rodman
Bill Laimbeer
John Salley
Tayshaun Prince
Richard Hamilton
Mark Aguirre

A better team for detroit would be

Thomas
Dumars
Prince
Rodman
Laimbeer

Best defensive squad ever?

One more for Boston:

Bill Russell
Kevin McHale
Larry Bird
John Havlicek
Bob Cousy

Dennis Johnson
Tom Heinsohn
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Dave Cowens
Robert Parish
Sam Jones

Spurs

Robinson
Duncan
Elliot
Gervin
Parker

Yeah ELG, forgot The Chief, dunno how! And you say all Ray Allen can do is shoot.... but boy can he shoot!!!

Houston's all-giant team:

C Yao Ming (7'6")
PF Ralph Sampson (7'4")
SF Dikembe Mutombo (7'2")
SG Hakeem Olajuwon (7'0")
PG Moses Malone (6'11)

ELG, you could have Terry Porter at PG for your Portland team, he was fairly handy! Jerome Kersey as 6th man maybe.

Milwaukee would have a pretty strong team:

Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Terry Cummings
Marques Johnson
Sidney Moncrief
Oscar Robertson

Bob Lanier
Paul Pressey
Ricky Pierce
Bob Pettit
Bob Dandridge
Brian Winters
Quinn Bucknor


Dallas not too bad either:

James Donaldson
Dirk Nowitzki
Mark Aguirre
Rolando Blackman
Jason Kidd

Sam Perkins
Derek Harper
Jay Vincent
Juwan Howard
Jerry Stackhouse

Knicks

C- Ewing
PF- Oakley
SF- Mason
SG- Starks
PG- Doc Rivers

Bench

C- Marcus Camby
PF- Larry Johnson
SF- Latrell Sprewell
SG- Allan Houston
PG- Derek Harper

I Challenge anyone to come up with a LA Clippers team

For Cheezeburger

Hawks

C Moses Malone
PF Kev Willis
SF Dominque Wilkins
SG Steve Smith
PG Mookie Blaylock

Knicks without Frazier??

Champ33, your Knicks team never won a thing! What about players from their 70 & 73 championship teams?

Willis Reed
Walt "Clyde" Frazier
Dave DeBusschere
Bill Bradley
Earl "The Pearl" Monroe

Then you could have:

Bernard King
Patrick Ewing
Micheal Ray Richardson
Jerry Lucas
Phil Jackson
Cazzie Russell
Charles Oakley
John Starks
Allan Houston
Larry Johnson

he he Michael Ray..


All Team Busted (or worse) for Drugs.


C Roy Tarpley (Dallas)
F Len Bias (Boston)
F Shawn Kemp (Seattle)
G Michael Ray Richardson (NY)
G Damon Stoudamire (Portland)


Bench

Isiah Rider
Jason Williams
Chris Anderson
Robert Parish
Richard Dumas
Vernon Maxwell
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Reggie Lewis


Pretty formidable squad there.

what about fin and Nash in that Dallas squad

DB5, that's a fairly handy team!

Reggie Lewis died from a heart condition, didn't think it was drug related.

Kareem & Parish?.... Didn't know they were involved in drugs at all, tell me more. Would surely have tarnished their incredible careers!

Reggie Lewis died of a heart condition often caused by cocaine use. Was rumoured at the time of his death he was right into it.

Kareem and the Chief were both busted for dope.
Cops found it in a package addressed to Parish when at his house for another reason. Parish openly admitted to being a pot smoker over the years.

Kareem was busted driving under the influence of dope, and also caught at an airport once with it in his luggage. He used the excuse that it was to treat severe migraines...



Honourable mention Rasheed Wallace, and good old Jo Jo English (never busted, just played a season here stoned).

Bullets/Wizards

Manute Bowl
MJ
Rip

Dunno who else just wanted to give manute a mention

maybe
Jamison
Arenas

Cousy's garbage. In ten years that Portland team will be awesome.

Oden/Sabonis
Walton/Sheed
Pippen
Drex
Roy

"Cousy's garbage."


Okay, all credibility now gone..

Skin... what about Wes Unseld for the Bullets?
5 time All-Star, 1969 Rookie of the year & MVP in same season! 1978 championship winner & MVP of the finals!

Mr Clutch... you think Cousy's garbage?
* All NBA first team 10 times
* 1957 NBA MVP
* 6 time NBA champion winner
* All-Star game MVP 1954, 1957
* 13 time All-Star

Yeah that's garbage, right?

atlanta for me...

mutumbo
malone
wilkins
smith
blaylock

pistol
willis
laettner
rivers
smith

He was a great player in his time, but do you honestly think a 6 ft pg with no quicks would even make the league today. He suited the celtics perfectly but his numbers are bloated because he played in a fast breaking team in an era where far more shots were launched; also the team was flat out stacked.

The winners recieved more accolades in the 60's than now and Cousy wouldn't have won a thing without Russell. What I'm saying is if Bill Russell beat out Oscar (triple double season) and Wilt (50 26 a game) in the 61/62 season for the MVP, Cousy's legend is enhanced because he was on a dream team.

He was a pioneer of the game but certainly not at the all time great pg level. Garbage was probably a bit far lol

Charlotte for me:

PG: Baron Davis
SG: Glen Rice
SF: Jamal Mashburn
PF: Larry Johnson
C: Alonzo Mourning

Bench:
Emeka Okafor
Mugsy Bogues
Gerald Wallace
Hersey Hawkins
Derrick Coleman

No room two Hall of Fame players, Adrian Dantley and Pete Maravich in that Utah line-up.

Personally I'd also go Mark Eaton over Carr.

Mr Clutch... you can say that about Cousy but you started this topic asking for Franchises "All Time" greatest teams. Of course you can't compare different eras as the game gets quicker, the players get bigger, taller, stronger, more athletic.
Wilt was a giant in his day at 7'1" and his only real competition was Russell at 6'9", until Kareem came along later.
Would Jerry West be any good in todays NBA, he wasn't fast or very athletic & is only 6'2"? Same with Oscar!
Will you not be able to put Jordan in there in years to come cos the game will be even faster & more athletic again?

NO you can't really compare past eras with todays game, but that's not what you asked.

BOB COUSY is a legend of the game and has the stats, titles, MVP, All-Star games to prove it!!!

maybe lethal5 if you had accurate information your argument would be more credible.

please be educated.

wilt chamberlain played in what many consider the golden age of centers (nate thurmond, willis reed, kareem, bill russell, walt bellamy, elvin hayes, wes unseld, bob pettit) when the average height was 6'10 as opposed to todays avg center which is around the 6'11 7 ft mark, obviously not a great deal of difference. and to say that chamberlain's only real competition was bill russell is insulting to some of the greats of the game (infact it is said that chamberlain had tougher times against nate thurmond than russell). furthermore jerry west had close to a 6'11 wingspan, which is a much valued commodity in this day and age. in addition he still happens to be one of the most skillful and fundamentally sound players ever to grace a court (it is said that he used to practice so much as a youngster that his hands would be bleeding raw from practicing too much).

however getting back to the arguement at hand. personally i feel cousy was an egotistical,selfish and spoiled star, who was only content to be the main spotlight. russel triggered the fast break, and the celtics happened to have proabbly the deepest rosters of all time (due to no salary cap restrictions) cousy to me is the luckiest all-star of all time.

ohh and to even question the big O's effectiveness in any era is just downright insulting. to big, 6'6 too strong for any SG and many consider the best ever

(wait for the jordan faithful who cannot fathom an alternate answer to the old GOAT question, even tho they've got no education for basis of comparison)

Cousy lucky to be an All-Star? 13 times lucky? I think not!
Who's credibility is at stake now!

I'm simply answering the question for the criteria put forward by Mr Clutch at the beginning. If you wanna think Cousy was just an average player, that's fine, but most would disagree IMO.

Also, I never said West or Oscar wouldn't be any good today. I asked the question, if you read it properly! The game is always getting bigger, faster, etc.

Wilt started in the NBA in 1959, & Russell 1956.
Thurmond came along in 1963 at 6'11", Willis in 64 at 6'9", Hayes in 68 at 6'9", Unseld in 68 at 6'7", Pettit was 6'9", Kareem came along towards the end of Wilt's career!
So IMO it's fair to say that Wilt was a giant among the league for the majority of his career.

I agree that they were all great players of their time, but to say that these guys would all be great today & Cousy wouldn't is what I find wrong.

YOU CAN'T COMPARE ERAS IN ANY SPORTS!!!

i was refeering to the fact that cousy was the luckiest all-star because he had the luxery of the deepest team ever and bill russel. i beleieve his ability is what is at question.

Would bob cousy be a 13 time all-star at the phillidelphia warriors? IMO no.

yeh your heights are pretty much spot on (except for willis who was 6'10). doesnt change the fact that the difference between 6'10 and 7'1 is not that bigger difference and certaintly doesnt have and impact on the players effectiveness (just look at manute bol).

in addition its known that eras 90's and up have inflated heights (ive seen charles barkley listed at 6'7 even 6'8, when in fact he's 6'4 or 6'3) its more impressive seeing your center listed at 7 ft as opposed to 6'11.

Cousy can't be the luckiest all star of all time.

That belongs to John Starks and BJ Armstrong.

Slight change to that Bulls roster.

Remove Gordon and replace with Artest.

Artis Gilmore over Longley

attn. undersized pf majic johnson to me in the luckiest all star of all time not cousy due to the fact he had the most woman(dirty).

are you drinking again cheeze??????