If you check out www.euro.basket.com you can search the world's league for a Player & nothing comes up now for Harold. He must have retired by now.

Found this about Harold Miner:

"he tried to play again in the ABL but he had to retire because his knees went bad on him."

and

"Harold Miner is in las Vegas doing well with his stunt in the NBA. He never tried to play overseas or play in the ABA or any other league because his contract with Nike didn't allow to do so until either last year or this year. Word is he is free now and playing ball here and there. He still got his hops. He got a tight crib out in Nevada, you can go to the clerk of courts website and it gives you an overview of his crib. Looks like a mansion, I see a huge pool and a full size court. don't count Harold out, he's not stupid. Just alot of pressure on a basketball player from Inglewood. maybe he might surprise us."

He married Brett Rainbow......

damnit... i wanna see him play again, hes one of the best dunkers of all time!

Wow. Power of the internet. I was just thinking today what happened to Harold Miner. Google, click, here I am. So now I now.

Last week, I was listening to a sports talk radio show and they mentioned that he was in the LAPD, no lie

I seriously doubt that..

NIKE CONTRACT ? STOPPED HIM PLAYING O/S .. REALLY ?

'Cause Miner is finer...

he had the best foul line routine ever.... round the body thru the legs then shoot pure gold

the boy got skilzz...

Where is the best place to find the retro-NBA jerseys ? i would mind a Miner top ..

thanks


What ever happened to Isiah Rider another great Dunker??

retro jerseys... ebay baby! Just picked myself up a mugsy bogues jersey. Ooooooooh yeah!

sizing would be an issue wouldn't it ? .. im not making a crack about 5ft3" Bogues .. I mean how do you know your size? Is the yank stuff sized the same ie 12.14.16 etc .. or s, M, L ...Euro sizes are weird as!

Forgive my ignorance ..i have not used e-bay ..

thanks

harold minor or a doctor J jersey would be nice. Hoping carter comes out in nets, the one of toronto was pretty dodge.
Terrence stansbury jersey... now THAT would be sick

the "baby jordan" Harold Miner is a superatletic player and i admire that.

Im 6ft 1 tall (approx) and the size that fits me is a 48. Thats not hip hop sizes either. I can play in that size

Thanks Doc... sounds pretty close to what i might wear..

i heard miner is the pixie dust spreader on the tilt a whirl at six flags

Miner as someone put it was "baby" jordan. He had some serious hops and a fair amount of creativity to match.

He's out there spending the money he ripped off from the NBA. He's part of a not so secret society that has prominent members such as Vince Carter, Juwan Howard, and Penny Hardaway.

I was a huge fan of Harold Miner. I recorded all the highlights from his games. He was the baskeball player I most wanted to emulate. What happened to him was outrageous. It just shows that talent alone is not what makes people shine. Put them in bad situations and even the best players can look average, even less than average. I weep for Harold Miner and the NBA. I think he was close to being as good as Kobe, the best player since Jordan.

Harold, you have access to the internet? Whats up man? You been out the league for a minute and still got dedicated fans....Holla at us, let us know what the deal is....

word up to harold miner man that guy was it. j.r. rider too. legends for sure. let me throw in my boy robert tha attack pack and kenny sky walker while im at it.

why would u give a rats ass about a player who averaged at best 10 points and their main addiction in life was marijuana over money...real smart guy...and he is a crackhead bumb for your info all these lies people say in here about him

I'm a huge Miner fan too. Best college shooting guard I have ever seen. I have never heard anything connecting him to any drugs at all. As a NBA player he just never got any playing time. Heat Managment was behind him even traded Steve Smith so he could start, but coach Kevin Lock. seemed to hate him. I remember this game he scored 14 points in 7 mins. vs the Nets. Another came he came of the bench a dropped 22 on John Starks. The 20 he had on Jordan as a Rook, the 28 point game vs. Celtics and the 27 vs the Jazz are still big to me. When he played he played well on offense. He was on a team with about 9 other players who were the same size wise. In 94 he was a big reason they made the playoffs, I still feel they lost game 5 cause Miner didn't get to play. He was traded to the Cavs were he almost never got to play. In 96-1997 he signed a contract with the Raptors (Zeke loved Miner's talent) just before the preseason, very shorthly I believe got tired of the hassle and he retired, because he never played for them. He did have knee problems all during his last 3 years as it kept him out of the 94 contest. Awesome dunker top 5 all time. I have a pair of his Air Flights.

BabyJordan within the NIke family...
i wonder if MJ had something to do with his disapperance?

I think FSN should put out a "Beyond the Glory" on him. I was just watching an NBA behind the scenes type show and the owner of the atl Hawks mentioned that he showed up for a wannabe NBA pickup game with some NBDL'ers and scored like 60 points. Then he never came back. Miner still has some game left in those old knees of his. Come back and save the Timberwolves Miner, they need you.

Im in the same boat, there is practically no info on Harold Miner. When i was little i would use him and the heat in nba jam. What happened to him and why did he fall off. If anyone knows any information on Harold Minor Please E-Mail me at [email protected]
Thanks,
JOrdan

Hollering from derby.United kingdom
Just been watching nba.com video archive and the Harold Miner dunk offs. Man that boy had skills dont know bout the rest off his game but who cares you dunk heavy at the right time and the whole world will see you.

Yo Yo Yo
word is that my boy 'Harold Miner' is still chillin' ya know what Im sayin?

He lives in Las Vegas and looks like playin' for the Las Vegas Rattlers in the ABA next year

Still Real. Peace to all my Dogz

You whassup trippin zzzz?

Props for the Miner Update

You still One Fly MF homie

See yo at Frankston Shopping Centre on Saturday so we can buzzz in my crib

lol ... are you guys for real ? are you living in Compton or something ? LOL >..

hey i went to inglewood wtih you had an english class you said you wanted to play at the forum one day and you did

Harold Miner has internet access, you got fans hollering for you, why not let us know whats going on....scrap what media says, we all saw the game you got. Let us know whats going on. Why did you just let the game go? Why did you just walk away? No nothing for your fans? Why?

if you go to rogers park in inglewood ca, you will see him still dunking on people.

Harold Miner? Damn that boy got some mad skilz under his sleeves yo. It's just to bad that oppurtunites did not go hiw way.

Is that word fo real? Would I see this playa in Rogers Park in Inglewood?

Yo whassup Jay?
Yeah my boi Miner has gotz the skillz. You know what Im sayinnnn?
Jay you got flip to check sound and start rollin with me and my homies on da weekends
Miner in da house alll night
Real...Peace Peace Peace to my ladiezzzz

Yo don make me step to yo up front Skyhook. You know what Im sayin?

Cos Im like white powder that floats

The man didnt have any skills other than dunking. I watched him every night with the Heat and he had no shot, no low post game, couldnt dribble in traffic and low BBall IQ. In college he couldnt be stopped but in the NBA they play D and he was lost. When he went to Cleveland his coach said his problem was moving without the ball. The Heat knew that for years and dumped him. He had a strong body and mad hops but thats about it.

I once saw a dunk he made that made me cry, but I guess you need more than that because he was a complete failure in the NBA. I heard he was working security somewhere for awhile. Remember he played before the big contracts so I doubt if he has that much still. I'm sure he can still clean up at the local courts so look out if you see him, but for all the people here who said he had skillz his total game was a joke.

Man, I dont care what anyone says bout Harold Miner. He has got to be the second most underated player that ever went into the NBA. The NBA just dumped him off like nothing, people dont realize it but the NBA does some bullshit under the fans nose. Just look at what the did to the #1 most underated player ever, Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf. He got "Blacklisted" from the NBA just cause of beliefs. Im sure the leauge put some kind of mark on Miner as well. Growing up in Denver Mahmoud is my all time favorite player and anyone from Denver knows his a legend. I would give anything to meet Mahmoud and Harold Miner.

Anyone know the story as to why Harold Miner changed jersey numbers from 32 to 4?

I feel very honored that people still like what I did on the court. I have a son who is now a Senior, and will be going to a top Divison 1 school. I left the NBA on my own terms, after some family problems. I am doing very well, I work at a McDonalds right near Vegas. Thanks for your support. Babyjordan

The man had crazy hops. People don't know what there talking bout. He had crazy skills....just no playing time. For the people who say he had no skills, Kobe had the same skills Miner had when he came into the league. The Lakers coaches worked with Kobe on his shot and having Shaq helps alot.If the coaches in Miami had the patients and worked with Miner as the Lakers coaches did with Kobe....just imagine.

I found a basketball autographed by Harold Miner at a Cleveland Cavaliers' Community Relations auction. I paid $15 for it!!! Anyone remember his Air Darwin Nike commercials? I wish he would resurface somewhere and show up on a SportsCenter highlight in an NBDL game or something, coming through the lane and throwing down one of his left handed windmills.

Stop whining about poor Harold Miner. I'll tell you what happened to Baby J: No D! It doesn't matter how great your offense is, if you are unwilling to commit to Defense, your career will be shortlived. Add to the fact that he never had a consistent outside jumper and well, you get the rest.

It's a simple equation really:

Athletic+Ability to dunk+No D+No outside game=The And1 circuit

If Miner had been drafted now, he might have made it. Because that's the problem with the NBA now. Everybody is tall and athletic, so dunking is easy. All they show on the highlight reels are the dunks. Who cares about working on the harder aspects like outside shooting and defense. I admit, I really enjoyed watching Miner play, but he has himself to blame. The guy was super athletic, but that just ain't enough. The road is littered with great prospects like poor Harold Miner...

HE DIED ??

The Harold Miner thread is like the Duracell bunny - it's still going, oi!

Rider was my old roommate at antelope valley college. He's basically broke now. Miner is just now out on patrol with LAPD. Works with my brother.

j'ai dýcouvert Harold Miner lors du slam-dunk contest 1993... J'avais 12 ans et j'ýtais fasciný par ce joueur si puissant ý la dýtente imprýssionnante.Que lui est-il arrivý aprýs son passage ý Cleveland? Quelle blessure a-t-il eu pour interrompre sa carriýre? Que deviend-il?

Le what?

harold miner had the most scoring potential of any shooting guard i have ever seen come into the nba.to this day i have NEVER SEEN a 2 guard with the handles he had.he did have a outside shot and miami was a team full of non defenders it just didn't happen for him. he was the most talented and explosive guard i have seen in the college level michael jordan included.

yo what up? i'm doing good everyone. i'm still hoopn and just living the 9-5 life, working. The league didn't really work out for me, i thought it would have been for me but it wasn't and also i had the knee issue so i just had to leave and do my thing...
peace and much love
Harold #4

surely not?

Everyone's Harold Miner on Hoops SA sometimes.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mi/benzie/photos/tombstones/benzonia/miner348gph.jpg

this is what really happened to Harold Miner

nice.

A little freaky - there's more than one Harold Miner?!

Let this thread die ..... then again, nah, keep it going (apologies for the joke).

Remember when HM played at USC and used to lick his hands then the bottom of his kicks?

Sometimes potential has more effect than success.

for all u guys that dont have a clue, harold is getting along well living in henderson NV. he was smart enough to get his degree while at USC. now he works as a "pit boss" at the "mirage" casino.

none of you guys know what you're talking about. Harold is currently working at his own floor tiling and home improvement store in Southern Cal.

floor tiling store? good one! on a serious note, Harold has done real well for himself. i used to be an assistant coach at his HS (JV team). i've been lucky enough to keep in contact with Harold, or at least with people who talk to Harold regularly, and Harold is currently working as a strength and conditioning coach for a junior high LaCrosse team in Skokie, Illinois.

i heard that Harold was living in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and managing a Chuck E. Cheese franchise.

i thought the Chuck E. Cheese restaurant he was managing was in Billings, Montana??? any clarification??

He's everywhere...he's everywhere!!!

More Sightings Than Of Elvis

I love this thread.

I love this site.

GOLD Jerry GOLD .

kinda off topic, but i saw him at a small mom-n-pop taco stand in oakland last summer. i just mean mugged and went about my business.

this is actually true

i remember someone talking about him on espn, his dad i think. said he put the money he earnt into a business or something, basically said he was a bit of a business man now

ppl have some crazy ideas about a very nice person.

i know which taco stand you're talking about. i saw him there too. i had good conversation with him. seemed like a really cool, down-to-earth dude. but i guess shoveling ground beef into a tortilla shell will humble anyone.

^^^^that's messed up. i hope he ain't serving tacos somewhere. i thought i did hear something about the chucky cheese place though a while back.

HM is a jigalo now...he slangs his snake 4 cake

The reason Harold Miner is no longer in the NBA, isn't because he wasn't a good player...it was because he lacked an all-around game, rarely played defense. Plus his knees added to his demise. If he had dunked the hell outta the rim during games like Shawn Kemp did, he probably would've had plenty of playing time. He seemed to hesitate a lot when he played and seemed to disappear during games. I don't think he had the superstar qualities that would have put him with a Kobe or a Jordan. Look at Vince Carter...smoothest dunker in the world... but doesn't have the true superstar skills to be mentioned with Jordan or Kobe. Miner's a legend in his own right. For not even having a true NBA career, he's forever immortalized with his two Slam-Dunk Championships. One coming after knee surgery. Who can claim that? Kobe? Vince?

Seriously, someone in this thread said Harold was in the NBA before big money!?!?! Thats INSANE he did OK banked a couple Mil and didn't blow it on bling and Ferraris. Harold is a class act and IS doing well not playing anywhere has a family and is involved in business,venture capital and daytrading!!! This is the truth sorry to be boring but I AM 1 degree of seperation from Harold and you idiots joking about him workin at McD's and shit should realize he could could still buy and sell ur ass and smoke all of you on the court!!! END THIS!!!

http://www.nba.com/allstar2005/alltime_dunks_89-95.html

check it out!!! its HM...

First of all, you rookies got it all twizted! I grew up in Inglewood for 22yrs and Harold was a close friend of mine who graduated in the same class of 88'. He got the name "babyJordan" back in the wood from his simulated play and facial features like the man himself. Myself and other friends supported Harold through his short NBA span in which i believe was short-changed due to reluctant coaches and management. Failure to develop more as a all-around player while applying effort from training camps'(Miami & Cleveland) yes, he was the most underrated player in the NBA of the 90's. I do recall dayz playing with him @Rogers park in Inglewood; sometimes even making an appearance at Darby park/clay courts on Crenshaw. Harold was a very humble and quiet homie if you really knew him but his sensitivity was a downfall. The deceptive hurt he received in the NBA (which was his dream) put a scar on his hopes of being the best player in the league. I lost contact over the years with he but i heard he is living good in Vegas i wish if anyone had dibs on him to contact my email: [email protected]. For those who are curious contact Inglewood High in California for info. Much props to Harold for at least going for his dream and even though he missed out on somethings he still got to dwell among the stars.

Mo....from Inglewood/78th street

lie

I would recommend fans of Harold Miner to check out Stromile Swift of the Houston Rockets. Stromile is in a similar situation that Harold was in... Stromile was drafter #2 overall by the Vancouver Grizzlies in 2000 (a terrible team) but HAS NEVER RECEIVED BIG MINUTES!!!

Harold Miner, in his first two seasons, had a FG% of like 46%!! That's phenomenal for a guard, and he consistently got to the foul line. Despite his consistently aggressive play, his coaches always favored inferior players like Brian Shaw, Khalid Reeves, Ledell Eackles... just like Stromile Swift has been benched for guys like Lorenzen Wright, Shareef Abdur Rahim, Juwan Howard, Ryan Bowen, Bo Outlaw, etc...

~ Eric S.

Harold Minor? Hes the old dude on neighbours right? ;-) lol

Was watching an Enterntainment Tonight special on athletes turned actors. They mentioned how a former dunk champion named Harold Miner did a few soft porn movies in Amsterdam.

I heard he was going to be the new face of KFC, replacing Colonel Sanders.

I know colonel Sanders is dead but how could KFC replace him? He is the face from beyoned the grave. Besides panther would be better as the face of KFC then Harold Miner.

I finally worked out what keeps this post alive. Google "Harold Miner" and it takes you right here.

An excerpt from a FoxSports column on Harold Miner: "I could perpetuate nine credible rumors about where he is today. He's either in the witness-protection program, playing ball in Japan, coaching in Las Vegas, living with his mom in L.A., running an insurance company in Florida, building homes in South Dakota, hooked on crack, writing for an online blogging competition, or dead. Nobody knows for sure just where Harold Miner is today. His career was a disappointment. His potential never realized. His greatness only a distant memory."

There's some other interesting stories out there: "When Harold was about age 15, his father left the family and moved away from home, after years of disputes and hard feelings. It's said that he was "vicious and mean, and did a lot of drinking," and that Harold's older brothers ran their father off at the point of a gun, or perhaps an axe."

Then there's stories of him dying ..... but alas, no-one really seems to know.

There's no more true ballers in NBA like they used to

Who would win in a fight?

Harold Miner vs. Kendall Gill

Damn. Are you guys for real? Harold miner was a mediocre ball player, yes he had hops, but he failed to live up to the standards in the NBA.
Some guys are just college players and nothing more.

Harold Miner is with the LAPD now, the infamous Rampart Divison to be specific.

i love this thread.


Lets see who can get his phone number at work - i put out that challenge to anyone across the globe .

If Harold is working for the LAPD - lets see what happens !!

perhaps i should make that - who can prove Harold is working for the LAPD - the phone number might be a bit intrusive ??

Wow! and I thought me and my homey Eron was the only ones. I saw a pic of Harold Miner in a old issue of Sports Illustrated when the Run & Shoot first opened at a pick up game at the Run & Shoot in ATL but it was just a candid no mention of him in the article but almost sure it was him should filed that issue been wonderin' wha' happen 2 old Harold ever since went lefty for 2yrs in his honor 95-97

Dang! how "broke back" do we all sounds missing this dude!

Well, I guess we all have something to say about the "great Harold Miner". Some are moaning, some are boasting of his talent. Either way, he is somewhere out there better off than all of us, and we sit here debating his career. If he wasn;t that important, he wouldn't have generated so many responses from all of you!

A few years back, I was a huge USC fan. My uncle actually knew someone that had something to do with the basketball program. He was able to give me an authentic Harold Minor autographed jersey. The jersey I think was actually worn by Minor. It comes with a coa. Let me know if interested. E-mail me

[email protected]

I think it was interesting the post on miner's knees giving out because of his bench time. Imagine if Jordan was not given the green light by his coaches. For all the good Jordan did he was able to blossom and explore his creativity, while learning to be a ferocious defender. I think scoring and defense go hand and hand. If you are a prolific scorer, you obviously have skills, thus you could defend better in time do to the knowledge of how to score in the "N.o D.efense A.ssociation". Miner had the makings of a great player and the passion to be a role model for kids, with his infectious smile. Imagine following in the foot steps of Jordan? Can you all nay-sayers do it? Jordan is the greatest ever. Period. In fact I really think Jordan in his time actually liked Harold. Yes you can say their mat have been anomosity and NIKE and such, but Jordan loves the game, and most of all the passion. Listen when he talks of Magic, Bird, and the others. That coach for the heat, where is he now? I don't see partial or unpartial remarks on him at all. Like in life there are just individuals in life that make up their own damn choices, regardless of who's creativity they are foresakeing, cuz all they care about is the owner and the money! What about the fans I ask? They are the one's who matter, cuz who know's there maybe some kid up in the stands or watching on television seeing Jordan light up the Bird Celtics for 63... As for the sports networks on the NBA ( even ESPN ) show me the highlights of defense. period. Harold Miner where ever you are. Godbless man, your sensitivity is a blessing. Peace.

Damn, I did a search of"Harold Miner" and this is what I found. People still remember him. He was just gone all of the sudden. I don't buy that he couldn't do this or that. Most rookies today don't play D. It's different at the pro level. They have to learn, some learn faster than others. I think maybe he was too hard on himself. Even in the dunk contest, after his rediculous dunks, Barkley and other all stars were in amazement! Miner just had a blank stare. Didn't even smile. I don't think he liked being compared to Jordan and didn't like the pressure. Would you like going to work everyday being compared to someone else? Maybe he just got tired of it. He was humble....what's wrong with that? Thanks for the memories, Harold!

Just want to say thanks for all the support to everyone doing this. Life is great, I auditioned for BrokeBack Mountain 2. The story of how two homies had to make it out of the hood. I also tried out for the crappy teams of the NBA such as the Raptors, the Knicks and the Magic. I didn't understand why they didn't have my name on the try out list, I had to end up staying at the motel 6 and wash dishes to pay the bill. Isiah, why did you change your number man? Hit me up, I still got minutes left on my phone!

harold was the best ball player i ever seen come out of this part of the planet(so.cal.). didint work out in the n.b.a. legend still peace.

Harold would be up to his eyeballs in smack right about now I would think

Not a bad player, good to watch. I thought I'd drop a line to keep this thread going. BB4L

If I see one more person spell Harold's last name M-I-N-O-R, I'm going to puke.

HM4LIFE

http://blogs.foxsports.com/nelson80

I am such a big fan of harold miner.
I liked the dunking but what really amazed me the most was his dribble drives, unbelievable. He had such deceptive way of dribbling really low to the ground and very quick.

he was definitely not a point guard though at times they foolishly played him in that position, taking the ball up the court.

his jump shot was on and off and his defense needed improvement- but he had some defensive tricks up his sleeve, he was great stealing and stripping the ball. But Kevin Louchery never helped in developing his game.

Kobe Bryant had the same skill level when entering the league but the only difference was he had a chance.

HM was the basketball player i wanted to emulate out of all the nba players. I hope he is doing well to this day and wish him the best of luck in life.

if anyone has footage of my favorite player of all time in games (not dunk contests) please email me: [email protected]

thanks.

to end this forum here's what happened harold miner.

Link

This is baby J. I am currently working at home depot ( toilet department) and doing fine. I just got a raise to $7.50/hr. Thanks for asking about me guys.

This has all been so entertaining
...mostly. HM is doing quite well--but I won't divulve much info about him except to dispell some misrepresentaions in this thread: He's not working at HD, not coaching, didn't join the ABL or any other league post NBA, he's not in the LAPD (though one of his brothers is a cop elsewhere in the country), he doesn't have a drug rap (or any other kind of criminal record), he isn't ordained (though he is a Christian), and has had no association whatsoever with Fear Factor or Brokeback Mountain :).
What has happened to him post NBA? Eleven years of normal life, basically. I'll just leave it at that.

His big sis.

anybody who has any harold miner clip from when he was with the heat, please upload it on youtube.

i was 13 y/o and was at the game when harold miner set the points record at bob devaney sports center in lincoln, ne (against the huskers) w/ 43 points. i became a huge fan and follower of harold since and he is easily my favorite basketball player ever (well i have to admit i love jordan but so does everyone else ... and miner is somebody unique) my best to harold and his family. thanks for the memories. throughout jr high and high school i shot my free throws w/ the ball around the hips before free throw routine that miner did. still do it in pick-up games in memory of the man.

This thread is hilarious.

I saw Harold Miner at a Kings hockey game last week.

I enjoyed the Youtube video. Thanks.

This forum is interesting I must say... I never knew that the whereabouts of Miner had this much following. His sightings are getting up there with Elvis now.

I agree with the previous message that there should be a "Behind the Glory" on this kid. Not necessarily because he was the greatest baller ever but just for the fact that he dropped off the radar after having had such a memorable all-american college career and he still has a loyal following.

My most memorable moments... seeing him as a USC player come into UCLA Pauley Pavilion and putting on a show. On a breakaway he stopped at the 3 point line, dribbled the ball back and forth in between his legs multiple times, accelerated to the hoop and dunked. At that moment, I became a fan... And of course, who can forget the last second alley oop shot against Ohio State?

I came across this site because I just saw ESPN's "Best Dunkers" and Miner was #19. The commentator said that he had vanished and was curious to see what he was doing now but a google search came up empty. So, I decided to begin a search of my own....

uhh... who the freak cares? anyone wanna get a drink? sheesh

HAROLD IF U EVER READ THIS u did ur thing i hope all is good good luck with life thanx 4 tha memories

I think Harolds brother Map works in Kapunda.
He's once of those real life statues..?!

Last time I check'd, this site was for fans who wanted to know where Baby Jordan was....to all you HATERS, go pick your noses or something..CLOWNZ!

You shameless,non ever nba playing haters,who probably never even put on a high school basketball uniform.Respect a true baller, my boy had skills. Nuff respect haold.

You shameless,non ever nba playing haters,who probably never even put on a high school basketball uniform.Respect a true baller, my boy had skills. Nuff respect harold.

Harold Miner runs his own Fried Chicken restaurant in Inglewood.

I saw Harold on ESPN this week as one of the best dunkers. And it made me think as well were and the hell is he for real. I went to jr high and high school with he and he has always been a humble cat. He kinda had it bad like the rest of the people that come out of that city. But he had the skills for real. He was the first one to dunk at Crozier Jr. High, after that it was a rap when he got the Inglewood. I was playing on the soft team and he was starting on the JV team. Just hope that he's good cause for real if you really knew him he was a good dude. Big up Mr.Miner old friend from the hood M.M.

Are you high dude?

Article appeared in the LA Times about Miner recently. Not even his old school USC or TNT can find him.

Link

I heard he was doing very well in the Las Vegas real estate scene.

TR, the mystery deepens. Now we can't even find that article you linked to!

Don't forget David Thompson sportsfans. I'm old enough to have watched them both during their college careers and while Harold Miner definitely deserves his props, it's hard to believe that there will ever be another guard/forward that will come close to being as dominant a college ballplayer as DT. Yes, that does include Michael Jordan at the collegiate level. Hmm, where is he now?

Harold was the truth, period. He didn't have as successful of an NBA career as his potential suggested, but that doesn't take away from his accomplishments. Only to two-inch minded people who wish they even played XBox half as good as Miner did at the real thing, continue to disrespect him and criticize him. He was a legend and was the man in LA all through the early-mid nineties. When he was at SC he had more pub than any of the Laker/Clipper players. Kobe hadn't gotten there nor Shaq. The Lakers sucked then, the Clippers...Anyway Harold used to clown even NBA players when he was still at SC. His defense was his problem, but could have been worked with in a different situation. Also coaches like Lockery kill a lot of players. He's one of those purist idiot mind control type coaches like Billy Martin of the Yankees who benched Reggie Jackson just to show him up and for "old school" reasons that had nothing to do with the game itself. It wasn't Miner's fault people called him Baby Jordan. I think Lockery hated that and wanted to show Miner "a thing or two," teach him an unnecessary lesson. Lockery was the one needed a lesson, in coaching that is. It ain't like the Heat didn't have the talent back then to win Championships or at least the East. So f---Lockery and coaches like him who just like to control people, and take credit for the players that learn fast and not really teach the game to players who don't. D-Wade would have had the same problem under Lockery. D-Wade is overhyped just like Miner, and isn't the Defensive "guru" either. And it took him a couple seasons before he "blew up." The NBA is an adjustment for some guys, doesn't mean they don't have what it takes if it takes them some time to develop into their true potential. Look at Chauncey Billups, who would be selling cars if he played in the 80's and early 90's. I digress. Harold Miner was a damn good NBA player, a great college player, and THE BEST all around player USC has ever produced. Any Trojan people who don't agree, are just plain old, or don't know the game. I'll argue that shit with anybody. Harold was the truth.

I like the David Thomson post. Micheal Jordan was "Baby Thomson." He was his idol growing up in NC. And Jordan wanted to go to NC State growing up. NC recruited him though and the rest is history. Miner could have had a whole different career with lets say, The Clippers, The Kings, even The Lakers, back then.

It's amazing how much discussion can develop from four years of absolute mediocrity ! He had four years to prove himself, and simply wasn't up to standard. The league is full of stories of playground legends and college success-stories who simply weren't able to produce at the highest level (ask the O'Bannon brothers), and Miner is just more noticeable due to the dunk titles.
.. and like so many other so-called legends who never made it, it's amazing how it's always someone else's fault - it's NEVER the fact that the player simply didn't deserve the minutes .. or the career.

Just so everyone knows, I'm listening to Kanye West's latest "Champion" -- 'Did you realize...that you were a champion in their eyes?'

I'm 28 years old. I still remember HM's birthday (May 5th...who cares about cinco de freakin' Mayo?). I'm the writer of several blogs/poems/short stories/plays dealing with HM (The Revenge of Harold Miner - - Holla!).

I was teased throughout high school (for many reasons). But one of the reasons was that I was certain HM was coming back to rule the Association. It never happened, but I haven't given hope. I never will. Maybe he's cryogenically frozen in Anchorage and David Stern will bust him out in '08 to save the league from the Donagh-ate.

Don't Hate...Perpetuate.

Man - I think if people knew Harold for the man he was, the rest of this post wouldn't matter. Yes give him his basketball props, but also give him his hood props. HM did USC PROPER!!! He even pulled some other no named players into his dorm - they lived with him and practiced with him and he made them better to give them a chance. What they did with it - who knows?

My brother was one of the guys that lived with HM at USC (Harold if you read this - my brother Patrick W. and my cousin Little Mike who played with you at Inglewood all want to just say what's up). Harold was a giver and reached back into the hood to help other dudes that didn't have fathers. He gave basketball shoes and basketball gear to kids in Inglewood. He gave out tickets to kids to come see him at USC.

For most that don't have that positive role model - HM became one and contributed into the lives of several guys in Inglewood. I have coached youth football in Inglewood for almost 12 years now as a result of the positive influence that several guys in Inglewood had on my life - Harold Miner, Paul Pierce and others.

I remember the last time I saw him, I was on Crenshaw crossing to hit the store on 77th and Crenshaw and heard this horn. As we all do, I looked over and realized who it was. It wasn't the car - it wasn't the head shape - it was that big old cheesey grin he flashed. We said what's up and kicked it just talking for about 45 minutes or so. He drove off getting ready to return to Miami. I haven't seen him since.

Harold if you see this - or his sister from an earlier post if you see him - what's up brotha!! From all the katz that played with you at Rogers or at Daniel Freeman - holla atcha boyz!! INGLEWOOD 4 LIFE!!!!!!!

Hes hanging out with devante swing planning the next jodeci comeback album!

Seriously cool player in his day, him and packman were the sh1t. Things seemed to develop quickly once shaq and AI came in. Its all a blur in the past 10 years !

I'm flattered that so many people still wonder about me and would take the time to discuss my whereabouts on internet message boards. It brings a smile to my face to know that nearly 15 years have passed by since I left the NBA and people haven't forgotten about me. Thanks for all your support and encouragement.

I recently started a new job as a sign-spinner for one of the local new-housing communities here in LV, and so far I'm loving it. My back aches and my knees get sore from being on my feet all day, but those are the sacrifices you have to take when you hurt for money the way I do.

Thanks again for the support and keep it up.



Baby Jordan

Guys

Dad's doing really well, enjoying his life. Thanks for everyone's concern and interest.

Where in the world is harold miner....just seen him in the espn best dunkers list. And it seems he wasn't an asshole like j r rider. Too bad he didn't get minutes, or more chances like chauncey billups. O well. Maybe he'll come out of hiding the day before the world ends.

Hey Guys,

It's really me H-bomb coming at you from a dumpster outside Vegas. Well I am really doing good for myself these days. I am living it large on some food stamps and I have part shares in a bin down on 23rd and Western. I work at Krispy Kreme (working my way up to janitor).

I am coaching a bunch of crack heads near my crib for a bar of soap which really keeps me involved with the game and smelling nice.

If anyone is after some of my signed goods swing by my dumpster and drop a few food stamps in and I will holla!

H-Bomb

Great, I'm in Vegas in January so I'll call in to see you.

Miner was a dud! He could jump and dunk, but didn't play defence, couldn't handle the ball and couldn't hit a jump shot.

He was nothing as a player and isn't missed. He was lucky to get into the league, but more than one coach said he was nothing...and they were proven right.

^^lol @ Gheorge Muresan bagging a NBA player's skills.

"He could jump and dunk, but didn't play defence, couldn't handle the ball and couldn't hit a jump shot."

Your career to a T isn't it?

DB5 have you ever got off the couch? I mean seriously, think about it.

You see, even big Gheorge played more seasons in the NBA than Miner - so I think that says more than anything about the lack of game he had!

Yes played 107 more games (1 season and 25 games).Career averages of 9.8 pts and 6.4 reb. As opposed to 9.0 pts and 2 rebs.

Inspiring stuff really. Now back to the couch.

You still fail to see the big picture DB5.

Miner was touted as "baby Jordan" - so 9ppg hardly gives him any career credit when he had such big raps.

While Gheorge wasn't a natural baller, he did win a most improved player of the year award and actually helped his teams.

Miner didn't help his teams - he couldn't be coached, the veterans he played alongside didn't trust him and he sulked when given few minutes.

This debate is closed!

I came across this today and thought it was appropriate to add to this famous Hoops SA thread!

http://www.beyondthebeat.net/20090916340/2009-articles/september/nba-flashback-finding-harold-miner.html

Man. This post is like a journal for me.

I keep leaving posts every couple of years. And Harold keeps his anonymity.

Some things will never change.

Hey - an interview with Harold Miner

http://linky.com.au/bht2w

Beat me to it SVD. Maybe this thread can be laid to rest at last?

Are you kidding? This could be the longest running thread ever ha ha..

never come close to the 2005 U18 dDiv 2 thread

harold was the man. this thread (and its length) is AWESOME! Anybody wanna see Harold in action check out my youtube page...

http://www.youtube.com/user/kellyb75?feature=mhum

Anybody with games and lookin to trade can shoot me a line there! love to get more footage to put up.

In on epic thread.