you have to hear it to believe it

C'mon guys, let's not bag out DJ, atleast he is out there trying to get info back to the ppl...i'm not with mcfattie on any of his views, but lets not rubbish the DJ or JR...altho i did think JR's blog was a cry for help!!!...but thats another story..

it appears that the vic's may have cut there own throat...
it certainly looks as tho BA are watching some forums getting feedback online as to what the ppl think..Boti is getting some good feeds from hoops.. :-)

ahhh so u guys will just bag out whoever saying -ive shits about BA and whoeva that dun say things ur way? thats just poor.

Don't mean to ask a stupid question but how do we listen to this without Itunes? Thanks

which would have been the 36ers seeing they have nothing atm...

again, a rebel league will be second tear to say the least as it wont have any player that wants to play international ball.

BA have got them by the short and curly's on this...
I would expect Mcfattie to retreat soon...

I'm afraid to answer that in case i will be accused of pushing 'MY' website...

Trust me, JR's website gets enough hits without me...

If you go to www.johnrillie.com/podcast, click on RSS FEED then scroll down to Episode 29.

Let's get one thing straight though - JR & I get NOTHING from the blog or podcast, not a cent... we have been given CD's and a few LCD monitors to give out to competition winners, that is it!

We do this for the sport we love and the fans. We get interviews so ppl can hear a different side to every story... all topical stuff.

I post it on here so the fans can access it.

yep i think the fat man will soon regret that he threw a bluff that got called real quick now he has to wear the disgrace of no Tigers in the league for a season, it will take away from their history and they should not have made that call.

Anon, if Dragons can't make a profit, no one can? Are you serious? The team that's spending probably $70k a game to open their venue when the 36ers would be paying perhaps about a third and getting a larger crowd?

Pigs, I believe that Adelaide were represented at the meeting - know someone from here that went over. The 36ers weren't represented at the last one, but did Seamus kick up a fuss over that as a negative then, or just now when it suits him?

I sometimes listen to the podcasts but in all honesty I can't bring myself to listen to McCheat's ridiculous bitter and one-sided ramblings.
We are trying to move forward rather than be kept in the state of bitterness and an inability to admit what is the truth, like McCheat himself and his loyal band of one-eyed followers.

On another note Rod I hear you had some interesting dialogues with Rachel recently?

DJ Rod - some of us appreciate it - thanks.

Not sure if that's you or not Rod- posted under anon?
Anyway, thankfully nobody's going to look at everything the same way- she certainly has a very in depth view on seeing several sides of several issues to what's going on with an alliance to neither side though, so it's hardly surprising everybody wants to talk to her for her honest, unbiased and broad input.

Yea i think Rachel is fairly spot on with most of what she says, and agree that the league is better off without the controlling, self serving owners.
I cant remember who said it but someone in that thread said something about why did it take BA along time to stand up to McPeake and Cowan it think it came with Larry Sengstock, i dare say it was him who said enough is enough we are doing it this way, so they walked, especially since it happened straight after he started. Looks to me so far Larry has been a good appointment and isnt gonna be pushed around by anyone, which is exaclty what BA needs. It sure wouldnt hurt that he is around 6'6 and solidly built, he aint exactly gonna be intimidated by many.

Some really good points made in post #235516 above. One thing that seems to have been forgotten in much of the debate is that this is teh end point of a long - too long if I remember many posters' commetns over the last 2 years - process. The process started what, 3 years ago, and was in recognition that the NBL was in trouble. Since that process was started, the trouble has worsened significantly.

Re the BA involvement - the NBL (i.e., clubs originally and owners as private ownership crept into the league) has run the NBL until the revised structure was put in place a year or so ago. Even then, an interim board was put in place and teh owners still held primary control. I just can't see teh state of the league at the end of last season as being the fault of anyone but past NBL management - not BA.

Remember too, that the NBL raised the salary cap from $700,000 to $1,050,000 a few years back, driven by clubs (owners) with deep pockets and opposed by regional clubs who didn't have the cash flows to suport that sort of players' wage bill. It was a disaster and the cap was reduced again, after one season. However, the players' expectations had been raised and I believe that had a lot to do with the history of flagrant breaches seen since then. All of this is due to the former NBL management, not BA.

The other point I'd like to make is about the AFL. Originally the AFL was set up as an expanded VFL, both in terms of the teams involved and its management structure. In time, the management structure changed and teh Australian Football Commission ceased to be dominated by parochial interests centred on the welfare of Victorian based teams. I reckon that happened in teh early to mid 1990s. Correct me please if that's wrong. Anyway, since that management structure focused on the broader welfare of the AFL as a national competition was introduced, the sport has grown hugely in terms of revenue, quliaty as a product, media coverage and spectator participation. I think there are some useful analogies to what BA seems to be trying to do in at the moment with teh NBL as the flagship national competition for basketball.

Jonno, don't think in years gone by and particularly post September when the powers that be were in Brisbane for the Bullets relaunch function and since then that she hasn't give those bigwigs a good serve too!
She is the one with contacts down south that were trying to bait Foxtel against One HD in a bidding war just before Foxtel announced their $35mil deal, but with all the dirty laundry getting aired since then, it's little surprise that both got cold feet and stopped taking it seriously.