if you don't like it - go down the park and play for free.

But if you want organised structured club basketball - pay the fees.

last time i checked you still had to pay for things in this world.

So tyrell, lets test your knowledge about the absketball australia fees (a joke!). How much is the contribution out of the $300.00?

and tyrell, to help with the comparison - are you talking rep or domestic player - if you are really looking for a comparison then SA is a bad palce to be asking because the SA Metro structure is very different.

Ho im talkong wabl (wa) level players- i dont know what % is for ba though i just can't understand why any should go to ba- what benefits are provided to the player?

ok, so for your information, about $4.00 per player in Australia goes to BA, it is pitifully small, for that you get Boomers and Opals and Crocs and Gems and Rollers and Gliders etc etc, the basketball pathway, the itc program, national tribunal schemes, national champs, aussie hoops, the national insurance scheme (not the actual cover but negotiation and maintenance of the scheme).

Just shit for the $4.00 hey.

Anothe part of your fee covers the insurance, but again, i think that ends up under $10.00 per person.

WABL is senior rep ball yes? I would assume that SBL is above and below that is domestic?

Yes above wabl is sbl and below is domestic- where are you getting these numbers from(what source)?

HO,

Is the insurance really $10 per player thru out SA Basketball? That is incredibly low. Great if it is, but I have a feeling associations are paying well above $10 per player for insurance...

Will ask some questions to my association at the next meeting if that is the case..

Approx $10.and some cents on that. not much more though

tyrell, you just read the annual report.

BTW, i don't think club fees of $300.00 per player is unreasonable for rep (WABL) compared to other comps in other states.

Guys, I cannot speak specifically for any state, just doing the maths nationally. Its a little while since I've looked at it but cannot imagine its blown out much.

BA have always had a pretty good national insurance deal. I know in Country Vic a player can register with the country body for about $30.00. The bulk of this is retained by the country body so makes my $4.00 and $10.00 calcs probably spot on.

ok Guys, Just quickly went and rechecked the latest AR that BA have online.

it is 2009/10.

Quotes revenue from participation as 2.4 million.

There is no separate line for revenue from insurance so I make a reasonable assumption that the insurance and rego are lumped together in the 2.4 mil.

Divide this by say 300,000 registered players and you get $8.00 per person for rego and insurance. 400,000 players and we are closer to $6.00 per person.

Thats well within the figures i provided above.

Even if it doees not include insurance (maybe that just passes straight through the books) those numbers per head are simply insignificant.

Tyrell - Have you ever wondered how much it costs for your club to hire training venues - most of the court hire in SA is around $45.00 per court per hour how do you reckon your club pays for that. Thats why you "pay to train"

Basketball is a relatively high cost sport. The largest cost is the training venues the cost of which would equate to around $2,500/team/year. In an 8 person team, that's just over $300/yr/player. Then other club costs need to go into that cost such as JDO and Coaching Directors. Some ABA teams also draw from the junior programme.

Then that's assuming all players actually pay their fees and don't default, or blame spouses, leave mid season, argue that I only played 14 of the 22 rounds so I should pay 37% less......

The annual fee for both summer and winter at most full clubs is around $500/yr ($10/week)

When you consider that a child / young adult is getting involved in a relatively safe activity, keeping fit, making friendships, learning skills such as teamwork, negotiation, problem solving, pushing themselves to their boundaries, and growing as individuals. They have this activity three times a week and as they grow older have the opportunity to represent the state at junior level, then play in a state level competition as adults.

$10/week is a small price to pay for all this.

Yep, some sports are cheaper per week than this and some that are more expensive don't run all year around. Some of those sports have boozy and/or sexist (or bitchy) cultures, and a number of the sports are limited to single sexes. Basketball is one sport that is played by both sexes, played in the safety of indoors, and doesn't take up a full day.

Like they say, it's only the depth that varies!

@Anon- obviously there is court hire, however you would think that would be included in the original fee of $300. Further, then there is a game fee of $7 all of this on top of the $300.

I know there are all the benefits and I acknowledge that if you want to play top level then this is how it is.

I just wonder if Homicide Williams or Gary Ervin came up paying 100's and 100's of dollars though....

Tyrell - court hire costs your club - your entry to the game in SA goes to the people that run basketbal in the state nothing to do with your club - eg BSA - Your court hire, is included in your fees eg your $300 which includes your state registration and insurance and your basketball Australia registration and insurance plus it enters your team into the state competition which is a couple of hundred dollars per team per season. Making any sense yet?