Congrats to both winners .. well deserved

Jess not making the All Star 5 demonstrates how the awards structure needs to be revamped. Only being allowed to select winners of each category (or position in the case of the All Star 5) from a list. Never mind if you wanted to vote for someone not on the list or in the All Star 5, two from one position. So many players are capable of playing many different positions its ridiculous you have to pigeon them into a position for the sake of allocating an All Star 5 which might not actually represent the best players in the league. Seems odd. But that said all in the 5 this year are worthy winners except the omission of the Hall's medal winner kind of invalidates that a little.

The all star list is developed over the whole year based on voting by the coaches. From there a short list is developed and then a team selected. (I think by coaches)

If you miss games like Mansfield did this has more of an impact on the Halls Medal but not the ability to get in All Star Team. Obviously the coaches preferred the way Mansfield play v the Refs. Also it depends on how many other good players are in the team to take votes away in the Halls.

I think both players are extremely good and to say Mahoney is clearly better is incorrect. Just that the awards are determined by different people - do you want Refs to think you are the best or the Coaches!!

How was Rashad Tucker's season?

Not as good as last year?

Mansfield is a much better all round point guard than Mahoney. Yes Mahoney is a good player, but not a fantastic point guard.

Anon 208. People are allowed to have their own opinion. And mine is that she is not the best point guard in the comp. Thats not taking anything away from Jess, as she is a very good player.

I would rather the vote of coaches and captains as that I believe holds more merit. Umpires alot of the time vote for their favourites or don't look outside who they think is the best player.

Tess Madgen is clearly the best player in the competition. She missed a number of games and to only go down by 1 vote is outstanding.

If you mean Ed Millard, he got 19 votes. Daly won with 32!

My All Star 5 if picking the best 5 in the competition

Mahoney (Centrals)
Lewis (Norwood)
Madgen (Eastern)
Foley (Norwood)
Thompson (Forestville)

You could argue suitability of positions but to me they are the best 5.

Seriously, i think the Halls is a completlely flawed. Ref's should not be giving out the points as they are drawn to the players who have the ball the most, score the most, pretty much attract their attention. The only fair way is a independant group of 3 judges marking each match either live or via a video replay.

Mahoney was good all year, but was not even close to the best player in the competition.
If you look at the amount of points awarded to each team it is clear that it is wrong.

Norwood Flames 71
North Adelaide Rockets 75
Forestville Eagles 72
Central Districts Lions 73
Eastern Mavericks 53
Southern Tigers 56
Sturt Sabres 43
West Adelaide Bearcats 39
Woodville Warriors 26
South Adelaide Panthers 32

How is it that Centrals who lost 6 matches can get more points overall than Norwood and only just less that North who both only lost 3 times.
Norwood lost twice to Forestville and once to Eastern. While North lost twice to Norwood and once to Southern.

Also how is the defensive player measured. I hope it is not on stats as a good defensive player does not have to have stats. Restricting a player score, causing turnovers, deflections, offesive fouls drawn should all be taken into account, yet i believe non of these are.

And before everyone jumps up and down on how i must be a player, or my favourite didn't win i go for Woodville.

I whole heartedly agree with the defensive player of the year comment. I'm not sure how its done ... my suspicion is they just look at steal/blocking stats.

Todd Matthews prides himself on being a pest and causing opposition turnovers - are you saying that he didn't deserve defensive POTY? And the pest comment is a compliment, before someone jumps down my throat. Matthews is a star.

Or was that post about Centrals getting too many votes and how the defensive award is figured out another Mahony bash? And if you are all going to whinge about her, how about you at least spell her name right. Isaac gives it to you in the thread name, but most of you are still too stupid to get it right.

Matthews is one of the best guards in the league and has been for years. I remember going to a game last year against sturt where he was all over tom daly like a rash.

Truslove was pretty unlucky not to get all star five!