Best player in the league atm. Hard to gauge all time though after a year and 6 games

I guess there are many ways to interpret 'best player' debates. I know that's not enough in terms of career production, but a season and a bit is still enough to see skill and dominance level, that's what I'm getting at.

He seems to find a good balance between getting his team mates involved and taking over the game. Even tougher to guard with his outside shot falling.
Should be playing backup PG in the NBA IMO but stoked to have him playing for the Breakers again.

It's tough to compare short-term imports to guys like Brett Maher unless you completely throw longevity out the window.

Best import is a better debate and he's probably the 3rd best I've seen behind Burgess and Powell (keeping in mind I only started watching at the Farley/Rychart era) and I know some didn't rate Powell as highly as me.

Powell scored with ease but I don't believe was as well rounded as Jackson. Kirk Penney would have to be up there, some of the shit he threw up with D draped all over him that went in was just ridiculous.

Suss this NZ guy ^

Good call though. Sammy-Mack around the same time as Powell was crazy good too.

At best he is the best player over the past 12 months. There is no way he is in the top 6 players ever. He would not even be the best ever in the last 6 years.

The best player in the last 6 years would be Penney.

"pretty big holes"?

Average outside shooter. What else?

You're all forgetting the dude that carried the Melbourne Tigers over the cap rorting Brisbane Bullets and arrogant Sydney Kings in 08, SEAN LAMPLEY!

Perhaps the NBL will do a top 50 players list in 2029.

There almost needs to be two different lists, one for longevity + talent, and then one just for talent.

Guys like Doug Overton, Rocky Smith, Chris Williams and Cedric Jackson would be right up there on that second list but couldnt possible make the first.

Id rate Williams number two behind Gaze on pure talent alone.

Burgess in 05: 20ppg 14rpg 2bpg

Stephen Jackson get a look in? Not the best NBL import ever but his record since hasn't been too bad.

How about assessing the players on their level of dominance/effect they have on every possession in this thread?

I'm pretty sure not all of you have watched NBL from the start, so don't even start on that best of all time business.

I haven't even been watching NBL for 10 years, but I can't see many guys being more effective on every possession (both ends of the floor) than Cedric Jackson.

and btw anonymous #791, Jackson has handle, quickness, the ability to penetrate, can pass and he can defend. The NBA isn't all about every guy being able to drop 30 in a game, Cedric is the perfect role player for a team that needs his skills because what he does well, he does very well.

In roughly date order, this would be my top 10 at short notice:

R Smith, Loggins, Gaze, Grace, Overton, Rose, Williams, Anstey, Penney, Jackson

Mike Jones always left out of discussions. May not be top 10 but very close.
Can't believe anon had Tucker on his list....

If Jackson leads the Breakers to another title this season with what esentially is a team made up at present of an out of form Abercrombie,a good 5 man and a bunch of good role players, he deserves to be mentioned with many of the greats.

You could put it like that or you could say seven current or former internationals, four of whom have been amongst major stat leaders at WC or Olympics!

It's so hard to do best of all time, there have just been so many great players over the years, to actually work out who is better when they have all been amongst the elite of the league in their time is impossible.

If Hodge and Tucker had never returned after their first 1/2 season stints they would still be held as revered players, no doubt.

A lot of people forgetting Bobby Brannen- big man who could step out and hit the three ball! Also, lampley? Not that great or dominant!

Lampley was probably better than Brannen.

Tucker averaged 17/10/7 in his first year.

Gonna mention Brian Wethers and Willie Farley just because I think they were better than some of the other names being thrown around.

Jackson over the likes of Crawford, Bradtke, Vlahov, Fisher?

Gimme a break

Grace

Grace

Rose

Lampley was nowhere near as good as Brannen in this league. In terms of comparing Jackson to Fisher/Crawford etc- I don't think it's fair, different positions. Jackson v Grace is a good comparison- who wins that?

more name dropping:

Everitt Stephens, Bobby Locke, Butch Hays.

Jackson's 2012 numbers translated to a 48 minute game:

19.9ppg 5.9rpg 9.5apg 3.2spg @48.9%

Right up there with the best statistically, if we're ignoring longevity.

I recall Locke dropping 50 points just a day after stepping off the plane. Also briefly forgot "Jumping" Joe Hurst (a MVP).

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I think were starting to go well beyond best players ever with some of the names being trotted out!

Lampley carried the 08 tigers to a championship when kings were hefty favourites

Leroy Loggins is the greatest import of all time and can not be broken for a long time. The bloke didn't have many weaknesses, stuck with our league and played well into his 40's still keeping up with the game.

I miss the days of the past imports who stuck with our league and made a life Down Under.

Now they chase the dollar to send back to the family back home to the USA.

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