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Anonymous
Two years ago

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NH: FFA new TV deal

Just read FFA have got a TV deal with SBS and fox worth $160 mil, with $148 mil being cash, over the next 4 years which is more than enough to pay all teams salary caps and then some, which would be fantastic for Soccer,

if only the NBL could get a similar deal someday then teams would find it much easier to stay afloat if their biggest expense (player salarys) was covered by TV deal and then we could see some real stability and growth in the NBL, if only, hopefully someday basketball can make it happen,

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Chewy316
Two years ago
18:02 19 Nov 12

Reply #388310

re: NH: FFA new TV deal

I was just about to write a post on this. This deal is a great move for the FFA. This is a further indicator that they are improving as an organisation. Football in Australia is on the way up, and the hard work that the FFA have done over the last few years is paying off well. TV ratings are at an all time high and attendances are likely to break the record set back in 07/08. Not to mention the A-League being able to lure higher quality players such as Alessandro Del Piero, Emile Heskey and Shinji Ono, not to mention a possible guest stint by David Beckham.

The quote from Frank Lowy that the administrators of the NBL need to take note of is this:

Q. Expansion has obviously been a difficult process. You've now got a new four-year television deal, the security of that deal. Tell us about the timetable for expansion.
A. The timetable is a bit flexible. However I don't believe we will be increasing the clubs between now and when the next deal comes about. Additional clubs require additional money, we just don't have that kind of money. Unless some big present appears from somewhere we wouldn't be increasing the teams between now and 2017.

Q. You once said your dream was a 14-team league. Have you given up on that dream?
A. Absolutey not, but I didn't say when the 14 teams would be. We were a little bit ambitious a few years ago, and we moved faster than we should have. We paid the price. Really our objective is to make these 10 teams strong before we move forward.

The A-League expanded too quickly and they paid for it with some piss poor attendances. The NBL have had plenty of teams come and go over the last decade and only one has stuck: the Breakers. The NBL needs to focus on putting its revenue into the teams they have right now to make them financially sustainable before even contemplating expansion. Why the NBL think they need to constantly look at expansion despite the majority of the clubs having a financial struggle is baffling.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:29 19 Nov 12

Reply #388317

re: NH: FFA new TV deal

funny how some short sighted people on here still remain their stance that A-League is struggling


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SVD
Two years ago
09:39 20 Nov 12

Reply #388372

re: NH: FFA new TV deal

The A-League is getting strong and they are producing a good product.

They are getting home grown players to stay or come back. They are attracting good overseas players who seem to care, who want to be here and they play hard - and if they don't they are gone and they get someone else. This has produced better soccer on the pitch and it is showing in the TV numbers (up 35%) and crowd numbers (up 32%) on 2011. Crowds are now up to about 12,000 a game.

I read that the biggest metric that is up is sportsbetting. It is the fastest growing betting league in Australia.

I am a member of Adel United and I have been for a few years. I stopped going to the Sixers and used that money for United (even though basketball is my favourite sport) because of the game day product United put out. It is geared towards the fans, not families. There is no over hyped, loud playing, rev up rubbish - we sit, we watch the game, we are allowed to support our team with fervour and passion. Last year, United sucked but it was probably the most fun I ever had supporting a team because that is what I was allowed to do – support. The Sixers don’t allow that opportunity, too family focused, too focused to the fair-weather fans who are there for "a night out".





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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:15 20 Nov 12

Reply #388380

re: NH: FFA new TV deal

Chewy re expansion. Youll notice the A-League have teams in all capital cities, and two in Melbourne and Sydney. They would never have got a deal like this without that.

So you are right, the NBL should take note.

A couple of A-League owners have said this will reduce their losses, but wont cut them out altogether. They said it puts them in a position where if they improve they might break even or make profits. With only one game a week on a low rating FTA station they will stuggle to make any serious inroads into the mainstream sports though.


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Chewy316
Two years ago
12:43 20 Nov 12

Reply #388414

re: NH: FFA new TV deal

Anon, yes I agree with that. Eventually the NBL is going to need to have teams in all capital cities. But at the moment, the NBL needs to spend its resources stabilising the teams they currently have.

I personally would go as far to explore the possibility of scrapping the NBL all together and starting up with a fresh market. I just don't see how the NBL as they currently are is going to be able to have growth to even rival other sporting codes who the NBL should be on par with.

If you look at crowd numbers, the A-League is averaging over 14.5 thousand people per game. That's not far behind the NRL's average crowd number of just under 16.5k per game. The A-League is certainly getting closer to the major sporting codes of NRL, AFL and Rugby than being a lower small sporting market such as netball and NBL.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:42 20 Nov 12

Reply #388435

re: NH: FFA new TV deal

The A-League's 12,000 per game comes at a hugely greater cost than the NBL's 5,000. A-League clubs lost 30 million last season, 10 times that of NBL clubs. To put that 30mill in perspective, the new TV deal will see the dividend they receive increase by less than 10 million across all 10 clubs and actual exposure for sponsors only increase marginally.

The NBL needs a 10-team comp with Brisbane and a second Melbourne team, its biggest TV market, coming in either next year or the year after or they might not get another TV deal.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:39 20 Nov 12

Reply #388442

re: NH: FFA new TV deal

You can't compare an outdoor league's attendances with an indoor sport.


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HO
Two years ago
15:55 20 Nov 12

Reply #388450

re: NH: FFA new TV deal

#388380

Good point about their markets. One I have tried to make a few times here - the NBL has too many small market teams to give itself of being a valuable FTA or even commercial property really. Cairns, Townsville and Wollongong all hurt.

In this case, with Foxtel having a presence in NZ, Wellington adds to the equation, rather than subtracting from it as it would for Channel 10. Of course, Foxtel would prefer Auckland but SBS would not give a shit about either.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:23 20 Nov 12

Reply #388456

re: NH: FFA new TV deal

Channel 10 rarely show NZ games, they wouldnt care, and Fox and Sky are separate in practice so that isnt really relevant. What 10 would care about is more Australian capital city teams to improve ratings.


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