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Anonymous
Two years ago

#30091

The end of the Marty era

Obviously enough is enough.

If the Sixers can't afford to bring in a new coach just make Radford the coach.

"It's time"

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Ingles13
Two years ago
16:21 2 Dec 12

Reply #389833

re: The end of the Marty era

Didn't go with the typical 'sack marty' thread title?


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Kobe24
Two years ago
16:29 2 Dec 12

Reply #389836

re: The end of the Marty era

No need to be sarcastic, the thread is valid. But not a chance Radford takes over the reigns, he offers less basketball knowledge than Clarke, just a 'gel guy' for the coaching staff.


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fstos
Two years ago
16:36 2 Dec 12

Reply #389840

re: The end of the Marty era

Love your work Ingles.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:36 2 Dec 12

Reply #389841

re: The end of the Marty era

LOL less basketball knowledge than Clarke


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
16:39 2 Dec 12

Reply #389842

re: The end of the Marty era

Give the man a break...what about the players?


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Muzz Buzz
Two years ago
16:43 2 Dec 12

Reply #389843

re: The end of the Marty era

Would help if DJ was capable of playing D on some level
Every loss can be contributed to the PG attacking from the top of the key and getting wide open lay ups

Ervin
Deleon
Henry
Flynn

All have scored at will and turned games with no help coming to protect the rim.


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justin
Two years ago
16:50 2 Dec 12

Reply #389844

re: The end of the Marty era

The players aren't the ones in charge of the shocking rotations. What does Mitch Creek have to do to get some minutes? Comes in has a three point play and then is off a minute later. Meanwhile Croswell plays most of the second half. What does he offer that Cadee and Gibbo cant do? Half the time while hes on Gibbo runs the point anyway, why have a guy who cant shoot play the 2? He's also too slow to stay in front of his man. Surely enough is enough, we should be 7-3 now we are 5-5 and outside the 4 with probably the deepest team in the league


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:52 2 Dec 12

Reply #389845

re: The end of the Marty era

That's a big issue, no team can win with DJ as your main guy. Other than in a very weak WA state league has DJ won at any level of ball?

Still it's Marty's fault for s.igning him long term.


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BJF
Two years ago
16:55 2 Dec 12

Reply #389846

re: The end of the Marty era

To be fair Cadee was suffering from the flu an Mitch looked like he was hobbling on a bad ankle post game


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Kobe24
Two years ago
17:00 2 Dec 12

Reply #389847

re: The end of the Marty era

The man has had a break the last 2 seasons and start of this one. Shocking Win Loss record, and hasnt made a decent sub in his time. Should be resigning in all honesty, he cant be happy with his own standard and has to be second guessing his abilities at this level surely!


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Kobe24
Two years ago
17:03 2 Dec 12

Reply #389848

re: The end of the Marty era

Watching the Hawks with a seemingly lesser roster perform so well right now is just depressing too. Love to see the under dog do well, but jesus cant Adelaide catch a break with its recruiting....


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:11 2 Dec 12

Reply #389849

re: The end of the Marty era

HOLD your thumb and your first finger about an inch apart and that's how close the Adelaide 36ers are to being a genuine NBL contender.

Unfortunately, that last inch may as well be a chasm, the Sixers again stumbling into no-man's land with their 73-75 loss to Townsville in Townsville on Friday.

On Sunday they host Sydney at Adelaide Arena, again needing to bounce straight back up to placate a fanbase that is either understandably dubious or outright suspicious about their Sixers' bona fides.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/basketball/adelaide-36ers-shown-up-as-pretenders-again/story-fnanosvn-1226528044220

Boti in the Sunday Mail today before this game against the Kings, can't wait to see what he has to say now.


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
19:57 2 Dec 12

Reply #389874

re: The end of the Marty era

Kobe24...Adelaide can't 'catch a break with their recruiting'??

Gibbo?

Petrie?

How much more firepower do you need before the excuses stop?


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KingJames
Two years ago
20:15 2 Dec 12

Reply #389875

re: The end of the Marty era

Marcus Camby, I think you missed the point, Kobe was indicating that with our recruiting we should be doing better.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:44 2 Dec 12

Reply #389891

re: The end of the Marty era

I don't think kobe was saying that at all. Catch a break with recruiting doesnt mean the players we recruited (who are supposed to be good) arent performing. Add Schenscher in there too. Foul shots he missed possibly cost them the game down the stretch.


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Loco
Two years ago
21:10 2 Dec 12

Reply #389901

re: The end of the Marty era

Mitch Creek came in with 3.30 to play in the first. Benched with 50 secs left in the first. DNP again.

Weigh stank for 3/4 of the game. Mitch outscored him in the two minutes he played until Weigh woke up in the 4th... and still wasn't that great.

The reason people keep hammering these same themes is because they're a genuine issue.

Sixers Admin need to be accountable; after over 3 years of crap, I'm at the point where I'd rather do something else with my time than watch these games. We've been members for 20+ years and it really sucks to see the state we're in.


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Loco
Two years ago
21:11 2 Dec 12

Reply #389902

re: The end of the Marty era

BJF is right - Cadee was WRECKED when he first sat down. I asked people near me if he had the flu.


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billo
Two years ago
21:53 2 Dec 12

Reply #389913

re: The end of the Marty era

I'd much rather have seen Gibson at the point and Massingdale at the 2 spot for the last 5 minutes of that match instead of Crosswell and Gibson, I reckon CJ's got all sorts of veteren smarts and would find plenty of ways to score and contribute if given meaningful minutes but it's virtually impossible to have any sorts of consistent performance when you're only on a for a handful of minutes at a time.

I genuinely think if Crosswell and Schencher both got injured and were out for the rest of the season we would see better results from the team. It's not that Schench is having a bad season as such (although I've never seen anyone blow so many lay ups), and Crosswell has had his moments, but having 9 players in the main rotation is just far too many for one 40 minute game each week (or very occasionally 2 games). If we had Gibson, Cadeee, CJ, Creek, Weigh, DJ and Petrie all playing between 20 and 35 minutes per game I think we'd have far better chemistry than what we've got right now.

On another note, I've seen heaps of Kings games this season and never thought anything of Kevin White, as soon as Madgen gets hurt this afternoon White simply turns into Madgen himself and starts reigning points down. That was bullshit.


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Tony Crav
Two years ago
22:23 2 Dec 12

Reply #389918

re: The end of the Marty era

Ok so objectively; what's Marty's win-loss as senior men's coach? What's radford's?? What's the trainers? What's the soccer hagi-something guy? What's the manager? (my advance apologies if he's 'special' I've only met him once and he appeared Special needs, so good on him!) what's Leanne CEO record?


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skud
Two years ago
22:37 2 Dec 12

Reply #389921

re: The end of the Marty era

"Schencher both got injured and were out for the rest of the season we would see better results from the team"

Obviously you don't see how many scoring opportunities schenscher creates when he is on the court. He isn't having the best year with his layups but we are also not playing to his strengths around the basket and giving him the ball in his favoured positions. DJ performs well on stats but as a team player he is nothing compared to schens
Without him in the team DJ would be our defender...today he had a 5ftnothing guy drive on him 3 times and didn't even raise his freaking arms!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:42 2 Dec 12

Reply #389923

re: The end of the Marty era

Thanks for pointing that out BJF. I thought Marty couldn't coach but now I know that Caddee had the flu and Creek had a sprained ankle it all makes sense.

The funniest part is the team looked good in the last quarter when it appeared that Gibson turned into Kobe and said "stuff these fools" and took over himself.

It's a pity DJ never got to work with a Dunlap or Goorjian style coach to see if they could have improved his defence. He scored 24 but gave up 40. Couldn't get an offensive board in the last quarter when Henry was on him.

So frustrating to watch DJ look like he can't breathe because he is so fatigued when running back on defence only for him to run like a gazelle full of energy when someone else gets a steal.


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Tyrell
Two years ago
22:51 2 Dec 12

Reply #389926

re: The end of the Marty era

If someone has time or the info, tony crav's question is an interesting one to know the answer for.....


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Loco
Two years ago
22:58 2 Dec 12

Reply #389933

re: The end of the Marty era

As in NBL or including AIS?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
01:58 3 Dec 12

Reply #389940

re: The end of the Marty era

In 2 & 1/3 seasons as coach of the 36ers Marty Clarke has a 22-44 win/loss record.

2010/11: 9-19

2011/12: 8-20

2012/13: 5-5

Close to 2.5 years in the job for just a 33% success rate.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
02:00 3 Dec 12

Reply #389941

re: The end of the Marty era

Time for marty to go, i think the whole coaching staff needs to be re arranged, we nearly have the talent to compete with euroleague teams, yet still fall at sydeny sized hurdles. Shame.


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Hurls
Two years ago
03:11 3 Dec 12

Reply #389942

re: The end of the Marty era

agree with anonymous. Best line up in the league, worst coaching. Shit I would take Paul Woolpert even instead.


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Mick
Two years ago
06:52 3 Dec 12

Reply #389946

re: The end of the Marty era

Woolpert is actually a great coach for a veteran / stacked side. If he had this Adelaide roster he would do wonders.

He's just no good at motivating an underdog.


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woolypert
Two years ago
08:59 3 Dec 12

Reply #389960

re: The end of the Marty era

Mick you could probably be a great coach of a veteran stacked side. The measure of a good/great coach is his ability to adapt develop and work with the strengths and weaknesses of his group.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:11 3 Dec 12

Reply #389994

re: The end of the Marty era

After seeing games like this when a team stacked with talent go missing in action, I wonder why clubs don't take a punt on proven Coaches who aren't in a current gig, like Brendan Joyce. The man is hot tempered, alright, but a hell of alot more temper, guts, passion and accountability would be given to the club and toward the players and that's something the club's been lacking for a good few years now. The passion and guts just aren't there. Just a thought, though it's probably been raised previously.


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orbit
Two years ago
11:23 3 Dec 12

Reply #390000

re: The end of the Marty era

Agree anon chocco or even Gleeson would automatically have this squad in the playoffs. Marty's not up to it & never will be...


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Isaac
Two years ago
12:03 3 Dec 12

Reply #390011

re: The end of the Marty era

Would rather Gleeson, Stacker, etc. Would struggle to follow a team led by FOSOJ.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:10 3 Dec 12

Reply #390014

re: The end of the Marty era

Agreed, Brendan is a bit too much.

Stacker or even a Joey Wright would be ideal.


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Camel 31
Two years ago
12:25 3 Dec 12

Reply #390023

re: The end of the Marty era

Although Cadee was unfit to play , Clarke doesn't have the confidence in CJ Creek and others.
Ken Cole is here.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:07 3 Dec 12

Reply #390047

re: The end of the Marty era

My vote would be with Guy Molloy, Trevor Gleeson, Stacker or giving Smyth another go, Guy Molloy is my first choice, i thought he was good with Cairns, and Goorj gave him huge raps at the Dragons.

Wright would be ok, but not as sold on him, to me he has had some stacked rosters and not always done that well.

I also dont really want FOSOJ either, especially if it means SOJ becomes starting PG.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:15 3 Dec 12

Reply #390051

re: The end of the Marty era

Wright did win a title with the Bullets in '07 but that was a very stacked roster and on the whole the point is valid.


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Isaac
Two years ago
14:41 3 Dec 12

Reply #390083

re: The end of the Marty era

Camel, Ken Cole's ongoing comments deriding Xs and Os coaching is off-putting for me. Smyth always at least had Breheny backing him up and who was the strategical brains of the operation.

Molloy, Baldwin, ask Goorjian what it'd take just in case. Not so keen on Wright - same suspicion as anon.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:02 3 Dec 12

Reply #390088

re: The end of the Marty era

Stacker would be my choice.

I don't think SOS could come close to affording Goorjian.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:07 3 Dec 12

Reply #390089

re: The end of the Marty era


All those listed bar Goorj arent coaching in the league now for a reason. if they were that good they would be on coaching panles somewhere.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:00 3 Dec 12

Reply #390104

re: The end of the Marty era

Or their prices are too high compared to what they used to get paid.


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Adelaide dirty knickers
Two years ago
16:46 3 Dec 12

Reply #390110

re: The end of the Marty era

To Tony Crav. I don't get the dig at trainers etc? What have they got to do with win/loss if it doesn't seem a fitness issue? Also who do you refer to as the manager? Are you talking about Jazzy, the guy that had the wacky mo yesterday? If so, you are so wrong about "special needs". I hear he is probably the hardest working guy in the whole place according what some players have told me. I don't know who you refer to but there are no special needs people involved in this team and I don't think there is any need for such a comment.

I like most would love to cheer on our team to a few good home wins. This is a great team. Hopefully it all comes together real soon, one way or the other. Having been a season ticket holder for more than 10 years and a fan for 25 it's hard not to want to get us back to the smyth glory days, after all it feels like this team could be as good as our 1998/99 one.


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