An Australian basketball forum covering NBL, WNBL, ABL, Juniors plus NBA, WNBA, NZ, Europe, etc | Forum time is: 2:10 am, Wed 3 Sep 2014 | Posts: 511,727 | Last 7 days: 1,482

Dunk Basketball Uniforms  

Advertising spot currently available.
Minimum three month period (1.5+ million page views, 92% Australian).
Email isaac@triplezero.com.au for rates and options.

UP North
Two years ago

#30180

Anstey calls PC a flopper

also called a kettle, 'black'

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2012/12/10/371794_sport.html

Report this topic


 

BobbyO
Two years ago
11:05 10 Dec 12

Reply #391400

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Anstey is correct. He flops nearly everytime someone contests one of his shots!


Report this post



Jax
Two years ago
11:27 10 Dec 12

Reply #391404

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Don't throw stones in glass house's Chris! There are a few of us still around that remember the big flops you use to do back in the day!


Report this post



Mick
Two years ago
11:31 10 Dec 12

Reply #391406

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Ironic coming from one of the floppiest softest big men to ever play in this league. Watch the replay one hundred times and youll see a clear foul one hundred times.


Report this post



BigAds
Two years ago
12:25 10 Dec 12

Reply #391431

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Can people confirm that Dunigan was issued with a technical foul in yesterday's Perth v Adelaide game because the referee thought he flopped?

It's the first time I've witnessed it at a game if it was the case.


Report this post



The Situation
Two years ago
12:41 10 Dec 12

Reply #391437

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

No, it was Wagstaff, and it was a terrible decision. Not only was Wagstaff entitled to try and draw a foul off someone who barrels in to the middle of his chest, he has also set an unrealistic precedent for every ref for the rest of the season.

He had no business calling a tech on that play.


Report this post



Peter
Two years ago
12:41 10 Dec 12

Reply #391438

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Not sure if it was Dunigan, but there was one tech called against Perth which Brett & Carfino thought was for flopping.

They spoke about it at length, sayng there wasnt even a warning given etc, but I thought it was because Perth fouled us before the inbound pass was made and had nothing to do with a flop.


Report this post



The Situation
Two years ago
12:51 10 Dec 12

Reply #391445

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Its not a tech foul if you foul before the ball has been inbounded. Its an USF in the final two minutes of the game (or each quarter?) but there was several minutes to go anyway.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
12:53 10 Dec 12

Reply #391446

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Maybe he should talk to his starting point guard before he calls out other players..


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
12:58 10 Dec 12

Reply #391451

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Dunigan was warned for a flop early in the game when he was steamrolled. Wagstaff gets called for one for a similar play. Both i thought could of easily been called a push as the contact was substantial by the offensive player IMO.

As stated earlier, if the Wagstaff one is a flop, then we SHOULD see plenty of T's given throughout the remainder of the year.

Wonder if the league will review the tape and fine the refs for bad calls seeing as they issued fines for floppers earlier this season.


Report this post



MovesLikeWagstaff
Two years ago
13:04 10 Dec 12

Reply #391456

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Or alternately, Anstey could quit pointing fingers and being a 'victim' and actually COACH his team.

Too bad Rohan Short does all the coaching in that staff. Watch the Crocs/Tigers game right when Melb take the timeout with 10 seconds left. Rohan Short draws up a play on the board and says 'Chris, go run that'.

FACT!!!!!


Report this post



Pointguard
Two years ago
13:33 10 Dec 12

Reply #391467

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

At this stage it could be argued that his coaching career will be viewed as a FLOP


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
13:41 10 Dec 12

Reply #391472

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Yeah and 73kg Cadee can just smash 103kg Wagstaff out of the way. It was minimal contact to the chest and Wagstaff put himself to the floor, collapsing at the waist. Have their been worse not called this year absolutely, but the fact remained he still flopped, put himself to the floor trying to get a call. Cadee didnt even break his plane. Wagstaff didnt even complain the call. Everyone has complained all year that flopping needs to stop, they finally call one and still complaints! They had to start somewhere and from memory this is the first for the year.


Report this post



The Situation
Two years ago
13:44 10 Dec 12

Reply #391473

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Someone needs to watch more ESPN Sports Science.


Report this post



The Situation
Two years ago
13:48 10 Dec 12

Reply #391475

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

We need to stamp out flopping, like Mills diving when there was ZERO contact, or Bruce clutching his eye when their was ZERO facial contact.

Selling a call (within reason) is not flopping and its not for the ref to decide that one play is going to be called differently to many other plays that occur during the season, and have done for many seasons.

What happens next week when another player takes the same dive and a tech isn't whistled?


Report this post



MACDUB
Two years ago
14:12 10 Dec 12

Reply #391482

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

That Dunigan example was a joke.

Poor dude gets absolutely steamrolled, and the ref gives him a warning about flopping.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
14:16 10 Dec 12

Reply #391483

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Selling a call is the same as flopping, trying to con the referee that there was more contact than there actually was! It has no place in the game hence why we are where we are at. And why the refs don't have to give a warning prior to giving a tech for flopping. Mills for example is one that wouldn't need a warning. But the rest is just an accumulation of bullshit and needs to be stamped out. I notice in the 2nd quarter after he was warned Dunigan just stood there on a drive, didn't flop on the same contact he got warned for earlier! They can play straight but they don't because they generally get rewarded when they go to the floor! It's time it was stopped.


Report this post



Dunkin' Dan
Two years ago
14:27 10 Dec 12

Reply #391487

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Given the on-the-spot judgement abilities of most NBL refs I'd feel far more comfortable with flopping being taken care of after the game with the benefit of video replays.
Refs stuff up foul calls all the time. But now we're giving them an additional thing they can stuff up - a non-foul call - and with the penalty being 2 shots plus possession the stakes are even higher with this one.

Whatever happened to just not blowing the whistle if there is no foul? If a player chooses to sit on their arse when they could have easily stayed on their feet, then their team is already at a disadvantage playing 4-on-5. Let the guy sit on his arse, refs. I'm sure the opposition will not object.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
14:31 10 Dec 12

Reply #391489

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Unfortunately DD its in the rule book and there is an emphasis on it. Until the NBL alters their directive on it it will continue to be inconsistent.


Report this post



The Situation
Two years ago
14:42 10 Dec 12

Reply #391491

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Why wasn't Hire whistled for a tech later in the game when Creek "shoved" him over? It only took one quarter of the same game to show how the inconsistency is going to effect things even more.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
15:03 10 Dec 12

Reply #391502

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Perhaps the push on Creek was the miss and not the flop by Hire?


Report this post



BigAds
Two years ago
18:35 10 Dec 12

Reply #391561

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Thanks folks, yes it was Wagstaff. Thanks for the correction.


Report this post



Mick
Two years ago
02:04 11 Dec 12

Reply #391632

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Calling Ts for flopping is such a slippery slope because it's based on the false assumption that all the prior, correctly-called no-calls will now be Ts.

And how often is there a correctly-called no-call in this league? Not very often...

If there is contact on a one-on-one drive situation, there is always a foul called one way or another, so I have a bad feeling that a "stamping out flopping" initiative in this league will just lead to more bad calls. You'll get guys warned for flopping who haven't flopped at all as often as you will see guys getting away with it who have clearly done the dirty deed.

If the person calling it can't see it for what it is, the degree of punishment bestowed upon the foul act won't changing anything. It might just make things murkier...

The current rules -- ie a no call for a flop -- are perfectly adequate to combat that foul odour stinking up our game, it's just the men with the whistles calling poo-poo can't smell a rose from a turd.

Four no calls in a row will get a flopper to stop: two no calls followed by two charge calls on successive identical plays will get a guy to think about the 50-50 chance he has to alter the game. And thus he will flop. Why not?


Report this post



X
Two years ago
08:05 13 Dec 12

Reply #391971

re: Anstey calls PC a flopper

Loved both calls. Lol at MACDUB. He wasn't steamrolled. He flopped.

Wagstaff's wasn't quite as bad but it's always good to see a serial flopper get tech'd up.

Hire's flop might have been the worst of the game.


Report this post





 

Reply to this topic

Name Email

Random name suggestion for anonymous posters: Oberon 97

Title
Rules: You must read the Terms of Use. No spam, no offensive material, no sniping at other clubs, no 'who cares?'-type comments, no naming or bashing under 18 players.
Message

Please proof-read your post before submitting as you will not be able to edit it afterwards.
 


94Fifty

Recent Posts

.
.