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Anonymous
Two years ago

#30266

Any news of import signing?

It's 5 days since our loss to Townsville ,has the sixers done any scouting since the loss,I hope they get someone signed soon ,but my feeling is that we wait til the new year til we see an import.If we don't get a win ...might as well forget about the finals for another season,what is the SOS group and Leanne doing ,do they have a say at all??

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Anonymous
Two years ago
01:20 19 Dec 12

Reply #393029

re: Any news of import signing?

Scott Stephonson


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orbit
Two years ago
02:27 19 Dec 12

Reply #393034

re: Any news of import signing?

Does it matter?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
08:06 19 Dec 12

Reply #393040

re: Any news of import signing?

Kris Kristopherson i heard


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friendly_indian_grocer
Two years ago
08:22 19 Dec 12

Reply #393042

re: Any news of import signing?

^ ditto


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:06 19 Dec 12

Reply #393065

re: Any news of import signing?

a catch and shoot guy who is a proven scorer at SEABL would be handy...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:46 19 Dec 12

Reply #393072

re: Any news of import signing?

... for a SEABL team.


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Quincy
Two years ago
12:34 19 Dec 12

Reply #393082

re: Any news of import signing?

useless answers from orbit and others,if you dont have anything useful to say then dont write anything in this topic!!!!


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Cera77
Two years ago
12:54 19 Dec 12

Reply #393087

re: Any news of import signing?

I think what they need is some decent team play and better performances from the guys they have now.


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Sixerfan
Two years ago
13:05 19 Dec 12

Reply #393090

re: Any news of import signing?

I hope we get a wing who can flat out score!

Luke, DJ, Petrie, Pero, Weigh give us size and options at 4/5

Cadee, Gibbo and Crossy give us guards who can compete.

A 2/3 outright scorer seems to be the missing link. Someone who takes the focus of the opposition defence to allow the other 8 to chip in with their strengths.


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Sixerfan
Two years ago
13:05 19 Dec 12

Reply #393091

re: Any news of import signing?

I hope we get a wing who can flat out score!

Luke, DJ, Petrie, Pero, Weigh give us size and options at 4/5

Cadee, Gibbo and Crossy give us guards who can compete.

A 2/3 outright scorer seems to be the missing link. Someone who takes the focus of the opposition defence to allow the other 8 to chip in with their strengths.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:00 19 Dec 12

Reply #393101

re: Any news of import signing?

I agree

Ideally we will finish the season with rotations of

PF/C shared by Schensher, Johnson, Petrie
SF shared by Weigh, import
SG shared by Import, Gibson
PG shared by Gibson, Cadee

Id have a starting 5 of

Schenscher
Johnson
Weigh
Import
Gibson

Bench
Cadee - backs up both guard spots, with Gibson playing sg when on together

Petrie backs up both big spots playing PF

Gives us a very good 7 man rotation, if Creek were healthy he would be my 8th man and would be my starting sf.

Weigh will continue to get his 30 mins i assume, and the import will have to slide to sf when Weigh goes off.

Everyone in the rotation gets around 30 mins each, always have 2 of Gibson, Weigh, import on the court.

Crosswell, Vasiljevic, Daly only used in blowouts, or incase of foul trouble/injury.

In 40 min games only need to use 7-8 players imo, that way they all get a decent run to get into the game properly and perform.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:56 19 Dec 12

Reply #393115

re: Any news of import signing?

Id have a starting 5 of

Schenscher
Johnson
Weigh
Import
Gibson

Where's all this room under the cap that will be able to pay for a starting quality 2/3 import?

The Sixers shelled out hugely for an All-Australian team, sacrificing he ability to sign high quality imports... I think they have to live with that and make the most of the high quality of local talent they've got... If they DO sign anyone higher level than what they had in CJ, I'd be incredibly suspicious of the whole thing...


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Aussiebballer
Two years ago
15:09 19 Dec 12

Reply #393123

re: Any news of import signing?

Since Creek is out for the year can they also use his salary to pay for an import?

I guess they would need to upgrade Daly and then they should be able to use the difference between Daly's and Creek's salary, plus Massingale's salary.

So they should have a reasonable amount for 3 months of work.

Also I am just guessing but they may not get someone until after Christmas.
As whoever they target may want to spend the holiday season with their family, before moving across to the other side of the planet :)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:28 19 Dec 12

Reply #393128

re: Any news of import signing?

They can use Creek's salary & points (Salary Cap & Points Cap wise) but given they didn't replace Ballinger when he went down early last season I think it would be unlikely. Either don't have the funds or not willing to spend them.

Combining CJ's money & Creek's money into a pretty decent import would be nice but won't be holding my breath, still expect a cheap ABA type import to replace one along with Daly.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:47 19 Dec 12

Reply #393136

re: Any news of import signing?

I would have been happy to give CJ the start personally, i thought given the opportunity he could have proven to be fairly decent. But thats obviously not an option now.

So you can get imports on the cheap, the top SEABL/NZBL imports would generally be solid NBL imports imo, and you can get lucky, remember guys like Redhage and DeVries came through SEABL both would be/are very good NBL players.

D-Leaguers only get around 15-30k, for the full season, so 40k for half a season in the NBL may be attractive for some of them aswell, which could get you a higher quality import, or guys straight from College i dont think Dusty was on much in his first NBL season,

so there are options for getting good NBL imports on the cheap if you pick well, take an educated risk, and use them properly.


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paul
Two years ago
15:50 19 Dec 12

Reply #393142

re: Any news of import signing?

One of the imports in the all star game is on the same money as Massingale.

There are plenty of talented Americans without a job or getting less than $40K in a US minor league who could be decent contributors in the NBL, especially with good talent around them like in Adelaide.

It's just a matter of finding one who's looking to get OS and fits your system and the rest of your roster. That's not easy.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:54 19 Dec 12

Reply #393168

re: Any news of import signing?

Who Paul?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:24 19 Dec 12

Reply #393205

re: Any news of import signing?

Corey Stokes 6'5" guard who played at Villanova, is available.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:45 19 Dec 12

Reply #393209

re: Any news of import signing?

NBL players don't play for 1/2 a season. Their season is at least 8 months, and most aussies now are contracted for 12months.


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
20:49 19 Dec 12

Reply #393210

re: Any news of import signing?

Which import?
There's Henry, Lazare, Hurdle, Deleon, Flynn, Jackson and Scott.
And Ervin and Lisch who have pulled out.
Not saying you are wrong, but none of them stand out to me as super cheap imports like CJ was. Hurdle maybe?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:53 19 Dec 12

Reply #393212

re: Any news of import signing?

Henry or hurdle IMO

Doubt it be Flynn Jackson or Scott


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:57 19 Dec 12

Reply #393213

re: Any news of import signing?

Paul should keep his information to himself True?Maybe that fine but please dont post here as someone who is a 'journalist'
total conflict.


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Import
Two years ago
21:05 19 Dec 12

Reply #393215

re: Any news of import signing?

Heard we had someone but fell through. Which isn't all bad because now we have cj and Mitch's wages, hopefully can get someone solid.


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Isaac
Two years ago
21:13 19 Dec 12

Reply #393217

re: Any news of import signing?

This is Hurdle's first professional job - could be him. Deleon and Hudson were cheap last year.

Total conflict, how? Boti, an award-winning basketball writer, published Massingale's contract value to a greater audience.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:48 19 Dec 12

Reply #393222

re: Any news of import signing?

yeah he did Isaac, after the event.
Boti is respected for his inside knowledge and his non posting on basketball forums. He respects peoples privacy too.

So how do injury waivers work in terms of out of the salary cap? Creek is injured and should be paid his usual salry. Why does that give the Sixers his salary to spnd on someone else?


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Isaac
Two years ago
21:55 19 Dec 12

Reply #393223

re: Any news of import signing?

Because it's not counted against the cap. Sixers would have to pay extra to replace him though.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:08 19 Dec 12

Reply #393225

re: Any news of import signing?

So the money that they didn't have they can now find, and still pay Creek?
NBL clubs dont have player insurance any more. They are covered by Workers comp. There is always a short fall between that payment and the players full salary. Are the Sixers plucking this extra money, from where? And extra for a new player as well. How does that work?
Paul should keep his opinions and knowledge to himself and not try and garner support from the forums where he posts ts not as if his journalistic articles are rivetting. Possibly revealing someones salary here as a 'journalist' is crap. Will he tell us as an "investigative journalist" what ever player earns? Let's hope not.


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Import
Two years ago
22:11 19 Dec 12

Reply #393226

re: Any news of import signing?

Isaac's right, Creeks wage still comes out of the teams pocket (a small % may be paid by insurance) but it doesn't go on the cap. Hence more $ for an import.


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
22:29 19 Dec 12

Reply #393233

re: Any news of import signing?

Was wondering (and hoping) if that might be the case.
So we might actually have enough money to get a worthwhile import then?
Assuming management can afford the extra money.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:42 19 Dec 12

Reply #393235

re: Any news of import signing?

Where is this extra money coming from? The SoS Have always been cashed strapped apparently. Now they can pay CJ extra to sack him, pay Creeks his salary less Workers comp and now find extra. Amazing. All this an still end up near the bottom of the ladder.


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Tyrell
Two years ago
01:32 20 Dec 12

Reply #393248

re: Any news of import signing?

Kris Kristoferson is not a guard or small forward. Beast of a player but def not what 6ers are after, with dj, schensch, petrie and pero.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
08:26 20 Dec 12

Reply #393272

re: Any news of import signing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45-6duFvfuI


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FYI
Two years ago
13:30 20 Dec 12

Reply #393358

re: Any news of import signing?

Players arent entitled to workers compensation in Australia


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Isaac
Two years ago
14:24 20 Dec 12

Reply #393374

re: Any news of import signing?

'235, they didn't pay CJ extra to sack him. They paid some of his remaining wage, but not the full contract.

That said, they have to suit 10 player and would have to pay Daly the minimum, so that'd likely chew up Massingale's spare money anyway.

Creek's situation would end up costing them if they replace him.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:35 20 Dec 12

Reply #393399

re: Any news of import signing?

Of course they are entitled to WC. They pay taxes, and come under the medicare system and all would have club paid Health Insurance as well.
Isaac, the Sixers would probably pay CJ a parting fee. It would still be in the thousands.
Why the injury waiver money allegedly doesnt count towards the salary cap is mystifying.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:13 20 Dec 12

Reply #393412

re: Any news of import signing?

Because they're no longer on the playing roster.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:22 20 Dec 12

Reply #393415

re: Any news of import signing?

So the $100K that they have to stump up for the injured player doesnt count? Stupid


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:26 20 Dec 12

Reply #393417

re: Any news of import signing?

No, once a player is put on injury waivers their salary is removed from that team's salary cap.

The club can then decide if they can afford to pay another player on top of the injured player who's contract I believe is only partially covered by insurance.

The 36ers didn't even sign a scrub last season to replace Ballinger for example.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:38 20 Dec 12

Reply #393433

re: Any news of import signing?

PLayers have been injured before and put on waivers without being injured.
Its another loophole that needs to be closed.


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