Yea well put POP.
I personally think it would be a better spectacle and get more fans if they basically adopted the NBA rules and refereeing style.
None of this wrestling is tolerated and back chatting is quickly teched as well, some cases too quickly, but still think overall the idea is correct.
Even in international ball doesnt have the wrestling the NBL does, so if the NBL is going to use those rules, then use them properly.
Bevo is correct, but the thing that annoys me that he and some others abuse the rules to the max, have done so for years, and now have the nerve to complain about it, with the poor Lisch stuff, you cant have it both ways.
IMO even though some have won titles, as a whole teams that employ these tactics often under acheive, and the fact they are often the most talented team by miles and still need to beat the crap out of there opponent to win shows it to me. If teams play straight up basketball the team with the more talented aslong as they work hard and are well coached will win more than they lose, but the teams that employ these 'wrestling' tactics will basically lose to anyone who can stand up to them, even if they are less talent. Eg Clark 36ers beating the Wildcats several times even at Perth, if they played straight up, Perth with the superior talent should/would have beaten the 36ers more than they have.
IMO even though the Wildcats won the title in 2010, and have been far better than the 36ers, they have almost under acheived, ok in 2010 they won the title, but they were by far the most talented on paper, and if the Hawks werent without there MVP level import in McKee, they may not have even got that. To me McLeod reaching the GF series with that circumstance and playing a more pure brand of basketball without McKee is almost the better acheivement, considering how stacked on the roster Perth were/are and the Hawks financial position and the amount they would have spent on there roster in comparison.
To me the Hawks, Crocs, Taipans in making good playoff runs and beating Perth or Perth needing to literally beat the crap out of them to beat them despite having a far better roster is more of an acheivement. Its also the reason why NZ, with a roster of similar level to Perth have beaten Perth in both GF meetings, they can stand upto them, guys like Vukona protect his team mates enough, then the more pure basketball style wins in the end.
Goorj is the same, made every grandfinal from atleast 96-2000 and only walked away with 1 title, even though most of the time he would have had the more talented/expensive team. To me thats an under acheivment. Adelaide in 98/99 had a good roster, but the Magic/Titans were probably more talented/deeper on paper and they were flogged by the 36ers.
2002 is a classic example, Titans again with a stacked team, fails to make the Grand final and is beaten by far less 'on paper' talented teams like the 36ers and Razorbacks who made the GF series.
To me its a far bigger achievement to not push the limits and win, then it is to push the rules and win, anyone can beat the crap out of a less talented team and win, its actually sad when you dont if thats how you go about it.
That is why i respect coaches like McLeod and Smyth over Goorj and Bevo. McLeod also doesnt whinge about players wrestling, even though his team isnt guilty of it and cops it more than Perth who are the biggest culprits. Its a huge pity the Hawks had sooo many injuries, i would have backed them in a playoff series over the Wildcats, despite having a cheaper/less talented roster, unless the Wildcats managed to beat them down enough, not sure they would have this year, which is said when the only way a more talented team can win is by bending the rules and beating the crap out of them.
Maybe its for a seperate topic, but what do most fans respect more/prefer the McLeod/Smyth style or the Bevo/Gorj style?