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Shame
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Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

From what I witnessed tonight, either Forestville have certainly made the wrong choice in their new appointment, or Richard Dickel has a lot of work to do.

Firstly, as the clock is about to wind down in a 20 point loss to Forestville, the opposition team looks to hold the ball to let the clock run down. The Forestville defender tries to steal the ball of his opposition player and fouls him. So all the parents start jeering and booing during the free throws. Where do fully grown adaults get off bullying a 14 year old.

Then in a later game with 3.8 secopnds left on the clock a different Forestville coach who is up by 7 points and has the ball in his teams possesion decides to call time out. Quickly the crowd is aware that the margin needed to finish top is 5 pionts, but rather than just inbound the ball safely to secure the win which could have easily be done because the opponent wasnt even trying, they run a 'trick' play to rub salt into the wounds. The Eastern coach was quite rightly very disappointed in this behaviour of rubbing in the win.

I hope not, but could this be the kind of leadership that our newly appointed leader is instructing on the club. Is there any leadership left at Forestville or has that been thrown out the door when Dave Laurie was not re-appointed.

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JJ
Last year
23:58 22 Feb 13

Reply #406088

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Forrestville current coaches have massive ego problems and are a disgrace to the sport. When will coaches from that club earn respect from other clubs.They continue to fulfill their own short comings by being a cancerous bunch which will only see them fail the club the kids and finally themselves. Implosion not far away.


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Ingles13
Last year
00:32 23 Feb 13

Reply #406097

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Case 1: kids pay up to $10 a game to play. Some kids get sub 15 minutes. Nothing wrong with playing out the full 32 minutes.

Case 2: another whine about a non issue. The team was being safe to secure top spot. Don't be salty that you didn't win


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PlaymakerMo
Last year
00:53 23 Feb 13

Reply #406098

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Immediately discounting the OP, and comment by JJ.

To blame Richard Dickel for anything substantial when he's been on the job for 2 weeks is laughable. From encounters I've had with him he seems like a nice guy, and wouldn't have been considered for the job if he didn't have basketball and coaching knowledge. If Richard had been leading the boos, and/or calling the trick plays you might have something noteworthy. As things stand, however, 'Blame' is just having a bitch over nothing.

@JJ - every club has a plethora of coaches with a massive ego, which is obviously a detriment to basketball, but don't be a drama queen: Forestville is one of the best two undisputed clubs in SA and isn't 'imploding' just because you want it to.

In saying this: Dave Laurie should've been rewarded with the job. That was a mistake, IMO.


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Ingles13
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00:56 23 Feb 13

Reply #406099

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Playmaker Mo said it perfectly. End of discussion


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Anonymous
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07:50 23 Feb 13

Reply #406112

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

God I miss local basketball in this state, its parent against parent, coach against coach... so much fun for everyone.


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Anonymous
Last year
08:56 23 Feb 13

Reply #406120

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Wow. Long bow to involve someone who has been there 2 weeks.

This has been the sort of thing that has been a staple of Forestville for some time. And ps, they had 1 lucky year. Have only 2 boys teams in all if div 1 and div 2 that are even in Finals. Both div 2 teams at that.

Arrogance of Sturt. Results of Forestville.


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TB
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10:11 23 Feb 13

Reply #406128

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Shame:

First of all, in the U16 girls game, the margin required to win was 6 points or more, not five. Had Eastern stolen the ball with those last few seconds and made a three Forestville don't win by enough to claim top spot. Why should a coach be blamed for doing what was necessary to secure a 'perceived' easier run into finals?

Second, it is Under 16 Division 1 basketball not social or Under 10s. There is no reason why Forestville shouldn't be allowed to play out the game to the very last second. Last week when Mavs played Sturt they simply needed to win the game to hold top spot. They won be 30. By the same theory should we not be criticising the Eastern coach for rubbing salt into the wounds then because his team could have just cruised to victory in the last quarter? Or is it different rules for different clubs?

Finally, it's summer season, which is predominantly about finding the best combination of players for each team, and trying to get your team into a good position for State Champs and preparing for winter. Why can't Forestville practice a last-ditch play in what so many call the "silly" season? There may be a future game where this score needs to be made to secure the win.

Fully agree with the above comments about Dickel being responsible. There is no way he could have that much influence over coaches in such a short space of time. At the end of the day, in this particular game the coaches didn't see eye to eye. It's just disappointing for everyone who witnessed the end of the game that there just couldn't be a handshake and a sign of some sportsmanship...


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Anonymous
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10:32 23 Feb 13

Reply #406132

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

whinging hoops idiots


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Anonymous
Last year
10:52 23 Feb 13

Reply #406133

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

If you don't understand that its unsportsman like to call a time out and run a play in that scenario. Don't then whinge about not getting a hand shake back the other way.

The game was won. The opposition had conceeded. If you run a play to inbound the ball all is fine. No need to shoot.

If it was considered ok. There would not have been 30 year mates arguing at the end of the game. It's NOT ok.


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Ingles13
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10:59 23 Feb 13

Reply #406135

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Lol eastern


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Anonymous
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11:58 23 Feb 13

Reply #406145

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Can you imagine the uproar on here if we to happen to a Forestville team. Someone would be committing a felony.


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Clydetheglide
Last year
12:14 23 Feb 13

Reply #406148

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

When will the kids come first, the game second and the colours last? I have met so many great people from different teams who's interest is purely in the kids and the game, not the colour they wear. There is nothing wrong with being passionate about your team or club, but it should never be to the detriment of the kids and the game.
I am a Forrestville parent and yes some of the behaviour of an absolute minority of the parents is occasionally poor. But they are no different to the absolute minority of parents from all teams. Everyone should pull their heads in and appreciate what we have with our kids and basketball - no matter who they play for.
@shame. Will not read anymore of your stuff as it is detrimental to our game. You are either a troll or a disgrace - or both.


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Beekayz
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12:26 23 Feb 13

Reply #406149

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Unsure of whether OP is either a show of sour grapes or an extreme conspiracy theorist.


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Beekayz
Last year
12:27 23 Feb 13

Reply #406150

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Wait....the guys name is Dick Dickel???


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TB
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12:30 23 Feb 13

Reply #406151

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Let's be clear about the girls game...

Eastern had no problem when the time out was called. He took his players in, grabbed the board and provided his players with final instructions (handy as they had no time outs of their own left). One could assume they were drawing up their own last ditch play to steal the ball, hit the 3 and secure first spot.In no way had they conceded at this point. Eastern players defended the inbound with the same level of passion that the game had been played at all night.

It was only when the foul was called, and 2 shots awarded that Eastern's coach reacted. Perhaps mis-directed frustration at the result, the poor second half performance of his team or even acknowledgement that next week will be a tougher game for them?

If the timeout was really the problem the whole stadium would have heard about it at the time it was called, not after Forestville successfully executed their plan.


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Anonymous
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13:25 23 Feb 13

Reply #406160

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

TB. Couldn't be more wrong. The coach was upset with the timeout.

But yes the taking a shit in an already decided game was what set if of totally. It is heaping disrespect in top of disrespect.

I wonder when all other clubs start doing this to Forestville if they might change their arrogance.


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PlaymakerMo
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13:54 23 Feb 13

Reply #406163

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

I wonder when these anon posters will "change their arrogance"...

@Clydetheglide - well said.

@Beekayz - lol.


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Bruce
Last year
16:44 23 Feb 13

Reply #406180

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

What a joke , anyone at the game would be wondering what all this is about . The reaction of he Mavs coach was way over the top but really isn't it all part of the game, a timeout disrespectful - get over it and play the game . I just hope both men can mend any rift in a 20 yr friendship. I just hope the rivalry between the two teams continues because there was some great basketball played by both sides.


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aristotle
Last year
01:03 24 Feb 13

Reply #406242

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

what play was run ?


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Annonymous
Last year
09:00 25 Feb 13

Reply #406395

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

@Anonymous
"Have only 2 boys teams in all if div 1 and div 2 that are even in Finals. Both div 2 teams at that."

U10 div 1, U12 div 2 and U14 div 2. seems like 3 to me.

You also left out the "minor" detail that Forestville have 11 girls teams playing finals in the 10 div 1/2 grades from U10-U18s (finals in EVERY grade and 2 teams in U14 div 2 finals).


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Jaf
Last year
09:24 25 Feb 13

Reply #406400

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

above

that's because 2 clubs have the biggest pools of kids to choose from and until a fair and equitable system is found for the betterment of basketball, so they should have more teams in finals.
So don't blow your bags on mathematics.
This is typical of the attitude all other clubs see you as. Oh and not to mention that only Sturt and F/ville are allowed to field more than one team in Div 2 where other clubs are not.


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Annonymous
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11:09 25 Feb 13

Reply #406430

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

There is a reason they have the biggest pools of kids. Get out in the community, so dome recruiting and develop your kids skills.

If Sturt and Forestville didn't have 2 teams in division 2, then you would be complaining that the 3rd teams are winning division 3 by 50 points every week.


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Anonymous
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13:19 25 Feb 13

Reply #406453

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

Jaf,

All clubs can nominate for a second team in div 2 and qualify for that spot.


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wondercoach
Last year
16:30 25 Feb 13

Reply #406488

re: Welcome to the Richard DIckel Era

plenty of times down by lots up by lots ive called a time out in the last 2 mins advanced the ball for a last effort to score
when it came down to it when we actually had to call the time out because there was a couple of points in it the girls knew what to do and how to react
there arent that many games anymore that are close
i have no problem with what the forestville coach did


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