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Diamon Simpson if we have different coaching staff.

"Diamon Simpson if we have different coaching staff. "

Loved watching him play, the desperation and effort really made up for any lack of natural skill he had. He showed you don't have to be the best player, just the hardest working player to succeed, outscoring DJ several times really showed where DJ has to step up as well. I just don't think we have a place for him with DJ, Schenscher and Petrie.

Is there a list of free agents?

Not sure why people keep thinking former imports will return, rarely happens these days!

Not when a team has a record as they have goin now, would u wana play for a team fighting for a wooden spoon every yr? Just what marty 3yr plan was 3 spoons not 3 rings and he missed a back to back and a three peat

2013-14 Free agent list

In my theory ,if Gibson leaves and Crosswell retires then we should recruit Ervin ,one point guard we lacked this season.if Petrie doesnt return then get Simpson .If Petrie stays get a Small Forward of Edwards or Dorsey(cheap)

Does anyone know when Creek is expected to be fit enough to play NBL?

Isn't an achilles injury usually at least a full year of recovery?

I don't see why Petrie wouldn't stay. He has a contract and whatever might happen with coaching, the club would make it clear they want him around.

I assume Crosswell may retire and Daly get elevated. Then, assuming Gibson goes, I think the decisions on retention are Weigh and Vasiljevic and what alternatives are out there. Pero does well and apparently the team really like him, but I thought Dowdell was perfectly serviceable as a back-up in his time in Adelaide. I've seen him at NBL games in both Adelaide and Wollongong this season, and he seems interested in playing again. Pero often looks a bit rattled out there though he has his moments.

Weigh is the tough one. Unless Redhage is going to move, the free agent list is a bit short on SF/PFs.

Very true Isaac,

At worst we should be able to replace Gibson and Weigh with decent imports,if we cant keep them, Id target 2 of the guys i mentioned earlier in DJ Kennedy (not sure if he would be interested in NBL), Dorsey, Ervin. Dorsey should be affordable for Weighs wage, possibly less, then offer Gibsons and what was left of Weighs at Ervin or Kennedy. Would prefer to keep Weigh, play him a little less, and off the bench once Creek is back in full fitness/form, but am working on the assumption Gibson wont be back.

Upgrade Daly for Crosswell,

bring in the best back up sg we can fit in to replace SC, id look at 2 ex 36ers in Bruce and Carter if we can fit them under the caps, both are combo guards which is good to have imo, especially with 2 young pgs. Bartlett, Dillon, or even Brad Hill if looking at a sg/sf being another couple of guys to look at, it will obviously depend on how much $$ and points we have available. I dont see us down grading SC, Erik Burdon would be an upgrade imo, so confident we will have no worries filling this spot with a better player regardless of $$ available. If we can keep Weigh, could offer the $$ available in this spot to a Dorsey type, or another cheap import, even CJ would be good to give another crack under a better coach.

and have either Pero, Dowdell or Warbout fill the 4th big spot, any are ok for me

If we get that team coached well, should be ok imo, could be some exciting times ahead if we get the coach right!

How do you fit in Carter with Cadee and Daly already as guards or Hill when there's already a "starter or not?" GF in Creek?

If you get Carter, then you have a definite back-up in Daly and two semi-starters in Carter and Cadee. I think you can get away with one but not two unless they're on a real budget. Creek's already going to need some SG minutes.

I like Ervin - definitely go for him.

I mostly would run 3 guards the bulk of the minutes, in general around 25 each depending on form, foul trouble, injury, match ups, with Daly as the 4th guard getting around 5 mins per game, if he out plays say Cadee at training then they both would get 15 mins each and all 4 would get atleast 15.

So room for another guard eg Carter or a cheapish import if Weigh stays to play around 20 mins, possibly start if he outplays cadee.

Import ie Ervin just takes Gibsons minutes.

Guard rotation could be

SG Ervin (25)/Carter (15)
PG Carter (10)/Cadee (15)/Daly (15)

or

SG Ervin (25)/Carter (15)
PG Carter (10)/Cadee (25)/Daly (5)

Depending mostly on form id start off playing Cadee and Daly 15 mins each, and then weight it across the season game to game based on form.

I personally dont think a guard rotation of say Cadee, Daly, Ervin and a 4th guard not really playing is strong enough, so would call Daly the 4th guard and try and bring another decent guard in if possible, Carter would be a good fit imo, can play both guard spots, an ok shooter and good defender.

SF rotation,

I wouldnt use Creek too much at SG, i think he could give us more value playing some minutes as an undersized PF given he doesnt really have great ball handling or perimiter shooting skills as yet. But id basically play Creek as a SF for all of his mintues.

Id then have Weigh or Hill, (Hill only comes in if Weigh leaves and we dont use the import spot for a sf) or Import compete with him for minutes and play some minutes at PF if need be. NBL is a small league, i think quicker undersized teams do well, Brooks and Cat were both really SF's and shared the starting forward spots in the past.

So to start the season, assuming no injury trouble id start the forward rotation as:

SF Creek (25)/Weigh or import(15)
PF Petrie (25)/Weigh or import (10)/Johnson (5)

(Could start Weigh, not really fussed but thats how id split the minutes)

Dorsey or Edward would be 2 guys id look at as imports, Dorsey isnt really a PF probably more of a sg/sf, but could play a little there imo, similar size to many PFs in the NBL and KB was also similar size and played some PF, im sure Dorsey and Creek could play 5 mins per game each at pf if need be and gives us a quick athletic, versatile line up.

Centre I would start Johnson give him and Schensch around 20 mins each, Johnson also playing 5 mins at PF so brings his total to 25, if he is on fire and needs more minutes than Schenscher sits more or someone in the PF rotation loses a few minutes from time to time.

To me thats a good, well balanced line up, and quite versatile, could go small or big depending on the situation.

Isaac, was your concern bringing Carter a lack or money or minutes? or do you think we need someone better than him with Ervin? I assume you mean there isnt enough minutes/money to fit him in.

My basic, possibly too simplistic calculation was

you keep Cadee
You get Ervin with Gibson's money
You get Daly for SCs money (i assume minimum salary or close to)
You get Carter or Bruce or Dillon with Crosswells money (my guess somewhere between 60-100k, say 70k)

Can see your point if you dont think you could get a Carter type for 70kish, he could be on more in Perth or it may not be enough to entice him away, but id definatly make him the best offer i could, and dont see how Perth would be paying him much more if they are under the cap given they have Lisch and Martin in there guard rotation. Kings the same with Bruce given they have Madgen, Henry or other import in there back courts.

Could be wrong, have no idea on what players get, just making guestimates based on salary cap of 1 mil, max salary around 150k, min salary around 40k and how the money would need to be spread across the team.

Imo all of those changes are upgrades.

Would they be fair enough guestimates?

I'm saying I think they need better than Carter if the other guards are Cadee and Daly. It could work, but the club seriously needs to have a successful year. Go for Ervin and another import. In terms of rough spend rather than playing position:

Ervin in for Gibson (I think Gary would cost more though.)
SG/SF import in for Crosswell
Daly in for Christopherson

This discounts any increases in existing player contracts that lock up more many.

If it had to be done and every other contract was locked in, the opportunity for money could come from replacing Weigh or offering him less. Creek, import and possibly Petrie can cover his role. But I don't know who's out there that'd give similar output for cheaper money though with Blanchfield being signed. Rush averaged 5 PPG this year. Slim pickings elsewhere. Could give all his minutes to Creek and Petrie and spend more on the imports.

'911, I think Petrie plus Luke is overloading the bench. Petrie's been good for us this year. Need scoring threats out there who can hit from the perimeter. With Weigh, I was thinking:

Ervin/Cadee
Import/Daly
Weigh/Creek
Petrie/Vasiljevic
Johnson/Schenscher

Second import would not be an expensive one. Ervin could take on a bit of the scoring load and mean that an 8-12 PPG import would be an upgrade on now.

Fair point Isaac, re import sg/sf instead of Carter, I like the look of your proposed team. Looks very acheivable and if coached well could be very good, and exciting/fun to watch!

Keeping the rest of the team the same also sounds good, good to have a core group together for more than 1 season, should help have a strong start to the season.

On the money as usual Isaac, thanks for the clarification and insight/logic.

Whats everyones first move for the 36ers to make in the offseason?

Mine is operation get Gary Ervin (id also atleast sound out Cedric Jackson, but consider him more unlikely and probably closer to impossible, but would jump at it if there was even a sniff)

We need a star like him who can win games and put bums on seats!

screw the states, if we are looking at imports then go for a defender like Dimitris Diamantidis.
this man has incredible talent. and Marcelinho Huertas from spain. when you're hitting 50% on 3's, hell!

australian players wise, id keep the same however maybe allow gibbo to go, and maybe DJ. Pero deserves more game time despite his age.

"Ervin/Cadee
Import/Daly
Weigh/Creek
Petrie/Vasiljevic
Johnson/Schenscher"

That looks decent Isaac. I wouldn't make many changes personnel wise either, although I would prefer it if we could keep Gibson and spend more on an import SG.

I'd like to keep Weigh, but not at any cost. I see him as a good role player, but not the star player he was originally recruited as. If he wants star money and that is going to prevent us from putting together a high quality backcourt, I'd let him go and let Creek grow into the starter's role.

Outside the obvious guns (C-Jax, Lisch, Ervin, M. Knight) I don't see a lot on the FA list to get excited about. Corey Webster could turn into a nice player down the road, but the last thing the Sixers need next season is another inexperienced guard. Probably only worth chasing him if you could get him cheap and gave him Daly's spot.

"Ervin/Cadee
Import/Daly
Weigh/Creek
Petrie/Vasiljevic
Johnson/Schenscher"

Seems pretty decent but take out Pero and sign a PF coming back from college.
Pero hasn't really show much this season, unless it has been another case of the coaches under using a player.
Grab a young player for his spot, since Petrie, Johnson and Weigh can all play PF.

The main priority is to get some great shooting in to the team.

Aussieballer, I suggested something similar to a player in the current team and they favoured Pero. I think he's a popular part of the team. He's done pretty well hustling - maybe he can show more under a different coach. Unless we could get a solid rookie maybe.

Fair enough.
Hard to evaluate him considering the amount of game time he has been given.

But he seems redundant if they are keeping Petrie, Johnson and Luke.

Maybe sign him as an assistant coach/Team Manager.

The current team manager is probably even more popular. ;)

Maybe you're right - if Weigh is there, we have the bigs well and truly covered. Get the best available kid out of college.