All true.about time people stood their ground against that lot. Good on them I say. Hopefully this is a move in the right direction its sure as hell needed.

The vote of no confidence in the Knox Board and Management was passed 392-257.

Fun and games out in the east...

In my opinion a dark day in the history of Knox Basketball.

Clubs well within their rights and great to see that for the first time in my recollection that they have shown any real interest in how the Association is run.

Now lets see which people voted for the NC motion have the balls to stand up and be counted and nominate for board positions at the AGM.I will be watching with interest.

@ the chief
A dark day in the sense that it is now public knowledge and dirty laundry needed to be aired to get answers and action from the Board. It's a disgrace that it had to come to this for voices to be heard. The clubs had no choice in the end but to take the course of action that they did. I think you'll find that there is no shortage of suitable candidates willing to step up at the AGM. Those that have been privy to the process and facts would know the efforts certain clubs went to in an attempt to get answers and that this isnt just a reflex action of ticked off people.I, like yourself I suspect, was at the meeting and was appalled at the attitude and contempt shown by a couple of board members (which apparently was no different at the previous meeting) and the CEO who didnt appear interested enough to even make eye contact with the members.........staggering!!! Let's hope this is a step in the right direction and the financial situation amongst other problems can be righted before they get any worse.

I don't get why the board would remain when a clear message has been sent by the members they represent that they're not wanted??????????????????????

Anon absolutely no issues with what you have said. I have no alignment with either the clubs or the board and I am thankful that people at the clubs have made me aware of the frustrations they have had since this all started. What frustrates me is that many of the board members I have known and worked with for a long long time and I just cannot work out why they have acted in the way they have.It is just not them.Your comments about the CEO are spot on, his body language and apparent disinterest was just appalling.
Like you said lets hope this has been a good move and we can all get together and put the place back on a footing it should be.

@the chief... maybe loyalty and a desire to believe has resulted in board members actions and poor decisions??????? At the end of the day we can all be guilty of being driven by emotion.

If questions that were presented to the KBI board in August last year were answered, it would never have come to this. So let us all work to get Knox back on track.Maybe a complete change is needed and some fresh faces.

The vote on no confidence in the Knox Board and Management was not taken lightly by the majority of the Knox Junior Domestic Clubs.
This all started over 6 months ago when a Junior Club sent the Board 6 questions regarding the financials presented at the AGM. This was totally ignored by the current Board and Management of Knox.
The JDC'S had no other option but go to a SGM to get answers.
To the chief yes we have a good team ready to stand at the AGM to replace current Board members these new people will come in with a buisness plan and a way to address the $400K loss project by the current Board for next year.
I will find it hard to comprehend any current Board Member standing for the new Board or board Members not up for election should have a long hard think before continuing on the board knowing the majority of memebrs last night voted no confidence in you.
At the end of the day we are there so all our kids living in Knox enjoy Basketball and have somwhere to play a great sport and to be involved in the biggest sport in the city of Knox.

The continued beat of the drum from the board and management that the domestic people have no idea about this or that continues to offend and get people offside. Where do you think most of the Junior Raiders people have come from? The domestic program of course. The current management needs to get over their ignorant fact that the people representing the junior clubs have no idea. Some of these people have far more astute business backgrounds then many of the people currently on the board. The Senior Raiders program is the top of the pyramid at Knox which no one disputes. Of course this needs to remain and of course the elite programs have to be taken care of. They are the top of the pathway for all juniors at Knox to aspire to. To say people from the domestic clubs would destroy that is just absolute rubbish and completely ridiculous.

The board should absolutely stand down as it has lost the confidence of the members in their ability to manage the association. As the Chief rightly has said people need to be prepared to now stand up and be counted and there are MANY very good people who are prepared to do this.

ok, as we discussed earlier this is one option that the clubs could have pursued.

A no confidence motion can be passed on a simple majority - i cannot recall from the constitution if a more decisive motion, such as a motion to bring forward the AGM or cause a spill, required a certain percentage to get up.

Two things should happen:

- the board, or at least some of the board, should demonstrate their understanding of the members position by resigning - this would create casual vacancies to be filled. At the least the President should formally offer their resignation to the Board at the next meeting.
- the voting members should (could) pursue more aggressive action

The CEO might, morally, consider resigning.

The concern is that the junior clubs do think they know what they are doing. It is my experience in basketball that junior clubs do have a reasonably myopic view of what it takes to run an association. I have seen many "junior" officials grow up into "association" officials and very quickly change their mindset.

With respect to Red88, who shows that (apologies but i am calling out by way of example not to ridicule) he is there for "all our kids". That comment does not reflect the interests of thousands of senior (recreational) basketballers at Knox and perhaps neglects the representative and social outcomes the Association should be providing.

Lets be sure of one thing any new board member will have everyone's interest at heart, Junior Domestic, Senior Domestic, Junior Raiders and Senior Raiders.
As a great politician once said:
BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE.

Reality is Knox knew they were going into SBC with ample time to plan in regards to how to deal with increased overheads, no business plan that I know of was ever made to address this let alone distributed when asked by a couple of the clubs. Winging it just doesn't cut it. To say the costs were unknown is nothing short of a cop out. The plan for Knox to be a financial juggernaut is laughable, anyone with any business sense could forsee it wouldn't be instant millions and a lot of thought needed to go into determining how to stay on an even keel first and foremost. Plenty of thought by a limited few has taken place but unfortunately these thoughts havent been well placed, and now we have an absolute nightmare. No accusation has been made of deliberate wrongdoing by anyone, CEO or the Board but it is obvious based on facts and figures that these people just aren't up to it. No shame in that but do the right thing and move yourselves along before further damage is done.

Why is the former CEO now the CEO of Golf Victoria still on the Knox Board. Time to do the right thing and resign.

Mmmmmm that question has been asked several times.................

Red88, that in isolation is a poor call. Being a former CEO does not preclude the individual being on the Knox Board, nor does being the current CEO of Golf.

Lucky then in the case that any prospective board members involved in business are successful in their own right and don't need to be looking at kbi to further themselves.I'm pretty sure you'll find there aren't any with kids involved at rep level that could benefit either. Youre comments may be generic(although i doubt it)but are way off the mark!

Are you serious? That will mean with a new appointment there have been 5 coaching directors over the last 6-7 years

So Knox DOC chooses Matt Shanahan as Men's SEABL Coach over current CEO's mate.
Things don't go well in the team, already infighting with top import and CEO's son not enjoying Shanahan.
Knox Men continue to falter.
Shanahan gets fired. Ex-Coach comes in to save the day. DOC takes the hit.
Can someone explain to me then with this looming why wouldn't he go to Frankston? Smart move son.

Bail when the going gets tough- smart? Not necessarily the word everyone would use. If this is true then everything you hear is right about how Knox operates.

Please don't forget that the association was built on Volunteers for the kids. All abilities All levels.
Some of these with passion have walked (or excused) by the current "Professional Heirarchy"
Many top coaches, co-ordinators & people who give a sh.. (myself included) Clean out & I will put my hand up.

It seems that the "Volunteer Network" has handled the transition with most preparidness (including new SP OS with all it's anomolies)

Well done JDC, Club volunteers & allies of the kids.
STAND TALL & reclaim the game

Some-one has resigned and gone to Frankston.

@concerned yes he has and it is our loss and frankstons gain. seriously he has gone by the wayside as others have before him, never stood a chance as the knives were out as soon as he started there and no matter what he did it would never have been good enough , again no different than with others before him. just a shame he didnt realise (or maybe he did) that those pretending to be supportive were the ones actually knifing him. same old same old.....when will you all learn????????

But we did everything without spending millions for personal financial gain, not send the place broke

Simon Brookhouse, Bob Crotty, Andy Trott, Heather Reid, Wendy Wack and Neil Quinn you have all had a vote of no confidence passed against you,its time to do the right thing and make your intentions clear that you will not be standing again at the AGM in May.
Your leadership and control over the CEO and our finances has been lacking to say the least. There are new people who will stand for the board with the sole purpose to get the out of control expenses and CEO under control. To lose a vote of no confidence by your members and snub your noses at the result is an insult to all members of KBI.
"TIME TO GO"