Yes, a "powerhouse" over 5 games. Moron.

Even more amazing is this :

Bulls in '93 with Jordan : 57 wins
Bulls in '94 without Jordan : 55 wins

Who knew Jordan was only worth two extra wins a season for the Bulls? Makes you wonder what all the fuss about him was really.

Do you want some tissues Ingles?

Ha ha ha

Everyone on this site loves to stir you, it's too easy.

Can the moderator(s) give Ingles a warning or something. He's either deliberately trying to stir the forum's users or he's a terrible communicator.

Thanks for proving my point Gordon Liddy. Without MJ, the bulls lost more games than the previous season. Without Kobe, the lakers won MORE(!!) games than they should have. WOW (!!)


Stirring? I'm provided facts about why the lakers had such a dismal season

The funny thing about this Ingles kid is that Kobe has won 5 more NBA Titles than James Harden and his dismal Indiana Pacers COMBINED!

You lose again Ingles.

Also I know Joe Ingles and he would be shattered if he knew the tool using his user name has zero Basketball knowledge and harps on like a Justin Bieber schoolgirl.

Where's your return from my piece in the other thread about Kobe's teammates??

You have SFA

How come all Kobe fanboys have to refer to titles that his HOF teammates carried him to a decade ago when discussing how poor he was he this season? Trolls' gon troll

Lol @ losing an argument where nobody else has posted any facts or opinions on this topic, and an even bigger LOL at that proving anything about me. Your reply actually gave me a good chuckle.

You call everyone a troll is that all you have? Fat loser

No, I have facts in the OP. Nobody else is providing any sort of discussion, so yes, they are trolling. Is it really that hard to grasp? I mean you are a lakers fan but I thought you'd at least have some sort of comprehension

I'm happy to smash your head in hljust name a time and place

^ Wouldn't expect a much more educated reply from a lakers fan LMAO, how can one fan base contain so many dumb people?

'Silly' is the new statistical evidence I see

Ingles, read and heed what I'm going to say here. I cannot stress enough that I'm not having a go at you, just trying to help you. So don't get all defensive. I think you want to get your points across in an appropriate manner, but you just don't know how to do it.

Now, in order for people to accept and adopt your points, you need to be likeable. That means no insults. Quit the insults, mate. You had a good week or so recently, and you were getting good feedback--people were engaging in normal discussion with you.

It's a matter of goodwill. Goodwill can't be earned in a few comments, but it can certainly be lost in only one comment.

What you need to do is not repeat the same message. Say your piece and if people don't agree, don't get pissed about it, try to reason with them with different facts/angles that the fact branches out to.

Lastly, don't pick people's grammar. You can't even get it right yourself. Have a look.

I'm provided facts

A good response ^ , but it wouldn't have even got to that point if 9-10 people (likely lakers fans) had to troll the topic instead of engaging in the original discussion

I thought the Spurs played well today. I feel as if the heat played average and were still close, so the series is definetaly far from over. This is the first time since 2006 I reckon where I'm neutral on the finals and not really bothered who wins. I tipped spurs before the year and it was looking good until late in the season when some injuries hit them but they're back to full strength and looking good. Still expect a pretty good series but I won't really be rooting for either team

But the thing is that you kept going. The whole thread was bait for people on the forum. But it was in the past, we'll let it slide.

In regards to the finals, I'm much the same, Heat if anything.

Ingles13, the problem with your "fact" is that it has been addressed repeatedly that a sample size of about 6% of the regular season proves nothing, yet you hang your hat on it every time.

I don't want to go over this all over again troll

Bottom line. Kobe has been very fortunate to play w such great players.
Without him piggy backing he's no better than Harold Minor

Ingles13
How come all Kobe fanboys have to refer to titles that his HOF teammates carried him to a decade ago when discussing how poor he was he this season? Trolls' gon troll

Kobe Bryant was all NBA 1st team and led 2 guards in Points, Rebounds,assists and was 2nd in fg%

Hey Ingles I recently went to get a tattoo, I got Kobe hanging on the ring doing a massive jam with his nuts on Joe Ingles face.

Oh yeah

Lol, poster 422220 is the imposter ingles13, probably another sad lakers fan

When the lakers won without Kobe were they playing good opposition? Beating Spurs & Heat 4 example would hold more weight than New orleans or Sacramento. I think a guy that has averaged nearly 30 pts a game & won 5 rings would deserve a bit more credit but let's start with the quality of opposition in this stat u talk about Ingles.

Was supposed to read - 30 pts a game over 17 seasons.

Wins against Indiana, San Antonio, GS Warriors and Sacramento (3 playoff teams, 1 non playoff)
Loss was against Phoenix (non playoff team)

So of the 5 games, 3 were against good opposition and 2 were against poorer teams

That's true anon ^, but can you explain to me why I often hear many uneducated lakers fans running around bragging that their team has won the most championships in history? Most lakers fans can't even list the years that their team has won rings besides the most recent five.

Why so much discussion about Kirbyyy and his mid-rung west conf team.

The big boys are the only ones alive now when it counts.

http://www.hoops.com.au/forum/31870-reminder-lakers-were-4-1-without-kobe-this-season/#p422278

true

http://www.hoops.com.au/forum/31870-reminder-lakers-were-4-1-without-kobe-this-season/#p422278

true

I like the edit on this thread's title. Well done, ingles13, you deserve it... Now do you get where I'm coming from?