Must win for NZ but Adelaide will also be chomping at the bit to make up for a disappointing Melbourne game. Two teams with a lot to play for, can't wait!

Two of my preseason top 4 picks going at it should be a great game. I think NZ will be marginal favourites with home court advantage and Wilkinson a great addition. Breakers by 5.

yup exactly Nathan. Breakers need to sort their slide asap and the Sixers need to post some more W's to justify their stacked roster.

Both teams have quick guards and legit big men and it's always a joy to watch Petrie & Vukona go at each other so should be a very good game.

I am personally looking forward to seeing Rueban
TeRangi have a go against Adelaides Mitch Creek.
A couple of exciting up and comers with tons of hops butting heads, what's not to like?

Lets just hope the refs let them play and put away all the soft calls off the ball that just slow the game and rob the fans of seeing both teams best players on the court making exciting plays.

I think this is a massive game for both sides as I am sure that Adelaide who've started LWWL will want to show some consistency and with the core of the 36ers side there from last year being mentally frail (didn't they lead breakers last year by 21 and got rolled) and a win to 36ers will give the squad more belief and if those core want to show some intestinal fortitude after being the breakers bitch of late (when did 36ers last beat Breakers?) then this needs to be a statement game!

As I put in another post... Adelaide by 16 points

16 points is a pretty big Statement when the league leaders (Perth) only beat them by 7 points?

Doubly a bold call when you consider that there haven't exactly been lots of 10+ and 20+ results so far, been mostly very even contests.

Agree on those match-ups, Mystro, will be entertaining. Will also look forward to seeing how NZ arranges its new-look frontcourt against what might be the best set of big men in the NBL atm.

Not sure that Adelaide wins head-to-head on paper match ups in many places against NZ. They could surprise them over there, but I doubt it. No huge advantage with Wilkinson vs Johnson or Johnson vs Ervin. Petrie, Vukona, etc. Someone like Pledger is far more productive than Schenscher. And then Webster, CJ, and so it goes on.

Certainly wouldn't have Adelaide anywhere near favourites and I think keeping it within 10 at the end is reasonable. We looked good in Perth, scrappy but capable in Cairns but a bit of a rabble in Melbourne at times. When things got messy, there were no clean looks from outside and obviously we were dismal from the stripe.

Maybe we get Vukona benched through foul trouble and hopefully Abercrombie too, but it's not a reliable tactic. DJ is a real key as he is one who can definitely convert from the foul line.

based on the current rule interpretations, Vukona & or Abercrombie being on the bench in foul trouble is a very likely scenario Isaac. Hopefully Vukona especially can make the defensive adjustments needed to play some quality minutes against Petrie & DJ.

I expect a big game out of BJ Anthony for the Sixers who is guaranteed to have family & friends in attendance at the North Shore Events Centre.

Fun fact: Mika Vukona is averaging an NBL career high 25mpg this season & Tom Abercrombie is averaging a career-low 2.3 fouls per game!

I'm talking about two players competing for loose balls, rebounds etc

There were a lot of soft calls that went both ways in this regard in the Breakers/Wildcats game, it was painful as a spectator.

I did say off the ball sorry,
there was some soft moving screen calls that were called and some pretty blatant ones that were missed like the Jervis one on Abercrombie as Abercrombie chased Ennis and Abercrombie got the foul for fighting over the moving screen.
There were some similarly weak calls that went against Perth players for minor contact off the ball.
Impeding a cutter is one thing but an incidental bump well away from the ball with no distinct advantage or disadvantage is another.

It's like someone just told them "call more fouls" but neglected to tell them what fouls they were supposed to be watching out for, so they just improvised in the rebounding contest.

It's not a good sign when the commentators can't even come up with anything to say about a call, left with just laughing for a few seconds (i.e., Redhage's 5th)

I don't want to derail the thread, but the assumption that Perth will be as good as now presumes injuries/Ennis go in their favour.

There are plenty of scenarios where Adelaide and Breakers rise above Perth.

"I don't want to derail the thread, but the assumption that Perth will be as good as now presumes injuries/Ennis go in their favour.

There are plenty of scenarios where Adelaide and Breakers rise above Perth."

Anonstradymous.

Jervis has been doing well, but having Knight come back into the lineup improves us on both sides of the ball nonetheless. He's still a better offensive weapon, his ability in the post offensively and defensively is still a cut above Jervis. It may take shots from others, but its also going to create quite a lot more. And having that many threats on court when we have our starting five all on will help free up Ennis.

Also, consider how it insulates us from Jervis' foul problems, much less chance of having to play out a last quarter sans the big man. One of Knight or Jervis will be there. Jervis has been great, an absolute gem of a find, but he shouldn't be mistaken for an All-NBL starting C.

Playing without the big man has been a blessing at times though, teams have really struggled to guard Ennis, Redhage and Wagstaff on the court at the same time with how well theyve been shooting.

I remember well. Bet on 36ers to win in NZ by +11. Sixers won by 10. Nagy wrote that Tyndale should be replaced. Tyndale was best. Ninnis was replaced by Clarke. Clarke didn't win in NZ.
Here J.Frye will be best. J.Wright to win.

^ Well if you're ever in a situation where you want to take risks on D and score, Beal has shown he can do well as a playmaker, so put Beal to PG, Ennis can play the 2, Wagstaff and Redhage at 3 and 4 and then Knight in the post.

Would enjoy watching a team try to deal with that variety of threats and vectors. Can penetrate, can hit from the outside, can play the post; dare I say it, can score, will score.

Of course, I'm no one coach or expert, so that may be totally implausible, but I really don't see a downside to Knight supplanting Jervis.

Don't think the Breakers will win by quite that much, but I'd be putting my money on them if I were a betting sort.

Both teams have been disappointing so far but I think the Breakers have the edge in this one.

Apart from the Melbourne game, what has been disappointing about Adelaide? Been a good season to date, especially after the last one.

There's no time like the present to go hell for leather.

Petrie-Vukona is always great to watch. Kinda like watching Stallone and Schwazenegger jelly wrestling. Sit back with some popcorn for the Creek-Abercrombie show. Who can do the better alley-oop?

Wilkinson could be a bit "rusty" after his flight. It was tempting to make an anonymous call to NZ Customs about an American smuggling things across the border, but he might enjoy the search. He is definitely the dangerman and has sunk the Sixers from outside the arc too many times.

My biggest concern with the Sixers have been the periods where they seem to lose control of the game, then pull off a come from behind surge. It's nice they can come from behind, but better to be in control.

My tip is that Wilkinson will be the barometer. A couple of dud shots will dent his confidence, but a couple of swish 3's will get those Kiwi kousins jumping out of their seats.

Like to see a different result, but Breakers 94 to 83

Wow didn't think my 16 point tip would surprise as much as it has and this is why I tipped how I did :

A little influenced by the optimism of 36ers fans on here and they super impressed me against Perth in front of me.

Breakers seem to get horrible ref calls even at home this year (even Woollongong game)

I reckon DJ will have 18 first half points and Breakers will always be chasing their tails

I think Cairns were full of confidence and 36ers beat them and Breakers must be feeling a little deflated after pre/early season form and I think right now Cairns +15 over NZ and that's how I come to 16 points

Adelaide haven't beaten NZ in how long and NZ will be feeling deflated?

NZ haven't exactly been blown out and had a chance to win in Cairns so I think it will be the other way around.

Adelaide played pretty terrible down the stretch in Melbourne and have been owned by NZ in the past few years including some games where they have blown some pretty decent leads.

Pledgers footwork offensively and especially defensively has been very good so far this season so what is it that makes you think DJ is all of a sudden going to score 18 first half points against him? I could see Pledger scoring that on him in the post over the course of the game but not the other way around and not in one half of basketball.

Sack Joey Wright?

To say that the 36ers will win by 11-16 is a joke! Saying that the Breakers will win by that much is way more reasonable.

Speaking of that Breakers by 11-16

Let's go Sixers!

Getting close - probably the first really influential game for year in terms of potential impact on the final standings.

Die hard Breakers fan but just put $30 on the Sixers to win.

TAB had them at good value..$3.30 head to head

Win-win for me..i either get a bit of coin or enjoy a Breakers win ;)

Why all this love for NZ? Wilkinson over Lazare is a plus, yes. But it also cost them Trueman so that's any extra size gone. They also have lost their past three games. Are people thinking abt this year's Breakers or last year's?

People's perceptions of teams is very laggy. In reality, Adelaide are just about equal favourites tonight.

Adelaide will come out hard and I think Wilkinson won't be as good as he was in his last stint with NZ. Adelaide by 7.

They still get credit for being the fearsome 3-time champions. I imagine it will take more than just a 1-3 start to kill the allure.

If they end the weekend 3-3 then I'd say their back. If they end the weekend 1-5 then they're cooked. If it ends up 2-4, then we still don't really have a handle on them yet.

I think the 6ers will win, will take Wilinson some time to fit back in. New coach and players around him since his last run. Joey doesnt take any bullshit like Marty did, he will expect a win and nothing less, 6ers are stacked. Could actually get ugly for Breakers, just have a feeling.

Game tips off in about 15 minutes. I'm tipping NZ by 7-10 but would rather a road with for the 36ers...

In this league if you need 4-5 weeks to gel, your done. Hope your opinion nis wrong on that, because only 4 teams make the playoffs and its going to be to tight to catchup.

Probably better to say they will take a few weeks (like most teams) to hit their best, but I don't think they'll be off the rails until then. I think we should be strong at home and snipe at least the occasional road win. They've looked good in 3/4 games so far.

Game about to tip off.

Hoping LiveScores will work for this ...

Well, if we've tipped off then live stats isn't working.

Can someone keep the updates then.... well done NBL FFS!

Wicked, thanks for that.

Now 33-27 our way

Update: 41-29 to the 36ers (tweeted by the NZ Breakers).

Sounds like Joey Wright just got hit with a tech foul.

Wow looking solid.

Is anyone else's NBL TV extremely pixelated and pausing every minute? Driving me nuts!

Ervin has 11 points so far and its now 43-29.

BJ Anthony and Mika Vukona ejected. Seems heavy-handed, but favours us you'd think.

Ervin throws the fast break lob to Creek, Vukona gets an USF trying to stop it. Anthony rushes in to remonstrate with Mika and there is some mild chesting of sorts. Pledger drags BJ out, Vukona goes after him.

Would've thought it was double USF (plus an extra on Vukona), but oh well.

Ahahahahaha what?!

Man, I am definitely watching this game when I get home.

BJ Anthony has been ejected from the game, as has Mika Vukona.

Well done BJ! No love lost I assume haha

Score?

Over-reaction by the refs.

Mikas play was dangerous. No problem with that being an unsportsmanlike.

Crowd of just 3100. Wow. Disappointing

So, Vukona more structurally important to NZ than BJ to 36ers.

But Vukona was probably going to foul out anyway, so might be a net loss for 36ers :D

NBL website just reported that Vukona and BJ Anthony had been ejected from the game.

If Twitter is to be believed the refs completely overreacted to the situation by throwing Vukona and Anthony out of the game.

36ers are up 51-37 at the half.

@2510,

Gotta boot an away team member when you boot a home team member in a place like that - self-preservation by the refs!

Those refs are an absolute joke. I love the NBL, but I hate that I love it.

^lol

It'd be funny if it weren't so sad, Bob.

That was a joke BJ Anthony was ejected. Should have been an unsportsmanlike foul on both players for the fighting and because it was Vukona's second he should have been ejected. Absolutely horribly decision by the three of them. BJ Anthony commits one offence and gets the same punishment as the player who tackled Creek in the air, then enters a fight.

Adelaides playing well and Creek is once again really stepping up!

What did joey say in the interview just after half time was called?

"Most disapointing thing I've ever been involved with in Australian basketball" Joey Wright after BJ Anthonys ejection (Andthefoulnet tweet).

Joey said it was the worst display of refereeing (or something to that effect) that he has seen in his time in Australian basketball. Also that a ref came over to tell him what calls were going to be made as a result of the whole situation, then the ref changed his mind and called something different after talking to Joey.

He was pissed. And I don't blame him.

Totally agree with Skud re Anthony and Vukona situation. Piss poor and lack of balls by the refs. Joey was pissed in the interview and will probably be fined for daring to speak the truth

Joey won't get fined. Truth is an absolute defence and NBL has said coaches CAN speak their minds, so long as they don't impune the integrity of the officials. He didn't do that.

So, if NZ swings this after that debacle and BJ getting unfairly dumped it could be quite the controversy...

Cheers lads!

NZ won't go near winning this game. Vukona is too important plus they have only two big men.

Joey will get a fine for that, but so be it. Got a tech of his own earlier, I think, or it might've been on the bench. Whatever works. During the half-time warm ups, they've just shown Joey talking with a ref. Seems calmer now...

Anthony getting ejected for what he did, based on the footage I could see, seems too much. Mika deserved at least an USF but I guess technically gets tossed for managing to rack up two of them?

Poor BJ had a quick chat to his dad (I think) in the stands on his way to the locker room. Shame he didn't get to see him play a full game.

Mika's not just a role player, he's a backbone of a team. Boucher was similar.

" so long as they don't impune the integrity of the officials. He didn't do that."

No, the officials did a pretty good job of that themselves!

What are peoples thoughts on New Zealand? We probably got lucky with Wilkinson having to adjust from his old style of playing with a lot of body contact to the new rules but the rest of the team doesn't look anywhere near as fluent or confident as they were under Lemanis. I wonder if Lemanis moved on at the best time or if Vickerman is struggling to gain the players full respect.

I liked brawler Henare being asked to comment on the ejection of brawler Vukona. Hah.

Sixers out 59-37 and Vickerman calls time out. Wishing I'd bet after all.

Abercrombie is apparently in foul trouble.

Gibbo & Ervin - 11 points each.
DJ - 8

Adelaide hit 14/19 @ 63% in the first half.

Second half is underway.

If Abercrombie goes then they may as well forfeit.

Te Rangi has hit 3 triples for the Breakers to bring the score to 63-48 about half way through the third.

Ah but young Mr Cadee comes on and hits a 3 of his own. Now its 66-54.

I'll laugh if Te Rangi basically wins this single-handed.

We need to stop Te Rangi (wasn't he in Footrot Flats?). Its now 66-59.

I hardly need to mention you guys were 20+ up, right? Need to get out of this drought.

68-62 after a Wilkinson triple.

We've got to stop this comeback by the Breakers.

Reuban TeRangi is athletic & can shoot the 3.

NZ have outscored us by 9 this period by basically hitting 3 after 3.

Creek and Frye both score to keep the 36ers in the lead 71-66 with one period left.

Hold strong 6ers, nothing better than beating NZ in NZ. Breakers lose this and the wheels are just about fallen off!

A win should get more out for Sunday's game. C'mon Sixers!

Adelaide must get back on their scoring bike, droughts kill.

Score?

Breakers have tied it up at 81-81.

Anyone other than BJ + Vukona out of the game?

C'mon Sixers!!!!

Lots falling for NZ. Refs letting some contact go at either end when players penetrate.

5 mins left.

Gonna have to follow the momentum here, say NZ take it.

Tell you what, though, if they need someone to shoot the 3 to win it, I know who NZ will be giving the ball to; Te Rangi is a monster out there.

Thats why you pay Ervin!!!!

Sixers seem to be making a conscious effort to not give up fouls in the paint. Trying to avoid foul trouble, I assume.

Peach and Ervin hit triples to get the lead back. 89-87.

Ervin hits again. 91-87

Ervin has 22 points and 7 assists (I think).

Oh yeah, definitely sitting down to watch this tonight

Peach with a put back and then a follow through and steal. Adelaide up 95-90 with 38 seconds left. DJ is at the FT line.

36ers won!!!!!

96-93 win.

congrats to the sixers, and in the spirit of hoops.com .........sack dean?

36ers win 96-93!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TeRangi went for a 3 at the death but was stripped by Ervin.

wow!!

thats awesome!! be close to 6k on sunday now!

Nice win Sixers. I'm happy to have tipped wrong on the one.

Sounds like we overcame the dodgy reffing for once over there.... something must be done!

Quoting myself from earlier...
"Tell you what, though, if they need someone to shoot the 3 to win it, I know who NZ will be giving the ball to; Te Rangi is a monster out there."

Oh irony.

Held strong at the end. Had our furious scoring at the start, then they had their run. A rare win in NZ!

Did Vickerman draw up a play for the final possession? Kerron Johnson looked lost.

That last play from NZ was reminiscent of the 36ers final possession against the Taipans last season.

Good win, last year we would have collapsed!

Great D by Creek and I think Gibson in the last play.
Frye had a really good game but I really think he is holding something back and has more to offer, he gets to the ring anytime he tries and his finishing 10ft from the basket is insane. Also a great player for Creek to play with and develop with. I just wonder if he can really step up and dominate the league.

I dont know why Schensher didnt play many minutes in the second half?? Johnson is a horrible defender and really did nothing in the second half except left Pledger score on him. While Petrie does a good job at centre I dont understand the logic of not playing Schensher, was he injured?

@Anon2591,

No it would not! *knock wood*

does that win silence a few doubters for now?

or is it "just-another-team-beating-NZ" noting they lost to the crocs and the taipans...?

NZ dug a huge hole and the the Sixers almost choked on it but did enough to cling to the win.
The Breakers probably couldn't have played any worse in that first half and were complete disorganized rabble at both ends.
There defensive mindset was the matador approach and then offensively they mucked around,picked up their dribble and then put up a shitty shot.
It was only some hot outside shooting and then the Sixers coughing the ball up frequently that made it look like NZ had a shot to win.

Pledger played great as did Frye and Ervin looked great when he was being aggressive offensively going at the rim or punishing Johnson every time he ducked under the screen.

Bizarre game, really. Hard to know what conclusions to draw; I was hoping for something a wee bit more decisive!

Big win. Don't like 36ers or NZ but want an Australian team to win this year (not Perth either).

@ NBL Fan,

The complete inability of the rest of Australia to get behind our crusade to restore the NBL Championship to the West Island is very disheartening.

We're doing this for you guys.



Also, glory and bragging rights, but also for you guys.

Observations:

- Te Rangi broke out tonight. More problems for Vickerman in working out exactly how to split mins at SF now.

- Abercrombie is overrated and needs to adjust to the officiating quicksmart

- Wilko a bit rusty
- You can tell the Breakers have only just started developing a zone defence as they were terrible with it in the first quarter ( Gibbo went nuts)

- Ervin is a special player and the 36ers have a good level of confidence/a good dose of cockiness which you need to win (Frye, BJ, Wright)

- Cadee seems a bit redundant to me -- everything he does is covered by Ervin/Gibson

- The team culture is different...if a Mika situation happened under Clarke's reign, I dont think you would have seen a teammate stand up and defend their teammate

- Vickerman is behind the 8 ball. With younger players and less leadership out there he needs to have greater control over this group.The 'leave it to the players' style under Lemanis does not work with this group

-Disappointing crowd (3100) and over-reactive refs in relation to that incident

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The refs were a joke, a very bad joke.

How are there so many posts about this? I don't even

eerily similar game but roles reversed...

as the first time they met back in 2003...

big lead, big comeback, won with free throws... unable to get a paly at the death...

it is halloween afterall.......... ;)

wow Sixers shot at 61% from the field. They got to be very happy with that. Also CJ shot no 3's which is strange to see.

Can't wait to watch the Vukona-BJ ejection.

Ye of little faith: Go Sixers!!

Some observations
- Breakers defence was absolutely pathetic - especially their zone.
- Reuben Te Rangi can play and Pledger was quite good.
- Agree with MACDUB on Vickermanns style
- Breakers are in a bit of trouble at 1 - 4, especially given I'm not confidence they'll beat Wollongong on the road
- Ervin is a gun
- Adelaide would've choked that game last year. The culture is different under Wright. Good to see him being passionate that halftime interview was the best.

Fantastic!

I think we had better ban the Silver Fox from away games:

Perth: L - in the crowd
Cairns: W - stayed at home
Melb: L - in the crowd
NZB: W - stayed at home

Also Adelaide need another shooter too. Frye and Ervin can penetrate at will. Shooter would be more useful than Cadee

Loving the fact that our wins this year have showed A LOT of character. Have been super impressed - maybe it's because the last few seasons have been so terrible that make it stand out so much more.

The Hawks game at home was great. They were hitting the 3 ball at a high clip in the first half. We battled away and remained in the game during the first half and then pulled away with a GREAT win.

The Cairns win was incredible. Coming from behind (by a considerable margin) not once, but twice was super impressive. I don't think we have seen ANYTHING like that over the last few seasons.

And just now the NZ game where we held a pretty comfortable lead, NZ got back to within 1 (from memory I think it was 89-88) but held on strong to win our second game on the road.

4 of our first 5 games on the road, and we've won 2 of them, nearly beat Perth over there. That leaves 1 'bad' game in Melbourne out of the 4 away games. Such a great start to the season, and with some home games coming up, we should be able to position ourselves nicely in the top 3.

Note to commentators. A "dagger" is not just a 3 point shot. It is a scoring shot that ends the other team's hopes of winning the game by extending the margin beyond their reach in the time remaining.

Thank you.

3,100 there tonight, and that follows 3,700 the previous week. Talk about fickle! The NZers are really quick to jump off the bandwagon when they lose a few games.

Maybe its time to move to Vector permanently. Cant see fans returning to NSEC in good numbers after seeing a few games at Vector. The difference between the two venues is too great and NSEC is just plain crap!

4,000 I believe.

Macdub, to say under previous coaches that the players wouldn't have stood up for each other is just plain crap. Sorry, but that is beyond stupid especially when it was happening most games last season due to our more physical plays by Peach for example.

Awesome win though and looking forward to Sunday and seeing the 6ers enter playoff contention

NSEC capacity of 4500, so well off that mark.

Ricey, I can understand in the past some teammates would have said something/reacted unhappily, but I honestly don't think any one would have genuinely stood up in the way Anthony did. (I think it shows the bond of the team that BJ would do that to someone who is an ex-teammate and probably a good friend)

Have to agree with you Macdub although Ricey isnt incorrect either.
This Sixers team will get physical if needed, we saw Creek get up in Demos grill the other week when he hit Cadee pretty hard and then this week with BJ against Vukona....
Just on that....who would you have money on between BJ & Vukona?

Ummmm are you forgetting Peach and Goulding last year? Seriously, you're just talking rubbish.

Actually they only got about 3500 the previous week, and that was against the Wildcats. Pretty disappointing when the reiging champions are getting only a few hundred more than Townsville (apart from their season opener at Vector)

Did they not know that their favourite knob, Wilkinson was returning to the team,, which would have got a bit more interest from the public? ;)

I believe the capacity is 4500.

Calm down ricey was just an observation.

Not so much the scuffle itself, but the situation: the fact that Anthony did it straight after he watched his teammate get stupidly fouled in the air.

From memory, the Goulding and Petrie stuff was just a little thing between them (Goulding was actually sticking up for Walker who had been fouled from memory).

Anyway, happy that I put $30 on the Sixers when they were paying $3.30.
Will pay for me groceries this week.


No way the Breakers should have been so heavily favoured by the bookies last night. Yes the 36ers hadn't won there for a while and had lost many past encounters. But this is a completely different 36ers team as well as a completely different Breakers team. Changing of the guard.

On a side-note.

Kerron Johnson, lets talk about him.

He probably deserves a lot more praise than he has been getting.

17.4ppg at a ridiculous 75% from the field (27-36!!)

To go along with 8/17 from the 3 (47 %)

Assist to TO ratio of 4.1 (5apg vs. 1.2topg)

And yet he didn't back himself from three early in the game. Would've been a chance to set the agenda early as Cairns did.

I did like the commentators bringing up Johnson's low TO rate just as he coughed it up.

Commentator's curse is a terrible thing.

Ricey...I was not forgetting that 1 incident but prior to that it was pretty much non existent.

If you think Mika Vukona was purposely trying to injure Mitch Creek with that unsportsmanlike foul you are an idiot.
Sure it was a dumb foul and he got ejected for it but he does not go out of his way to injure people. He has played in this league for how long and how many people has he purposely injured?

There is a big difference between being physical and being dirty.

The only people from NZ who cried over the Crawford/Abercrombie incident were idiots who have never played Basketball. Crawford went for the ball, got some body and fouled him and he hurt himself, unfortunate but not deliberate.

Mika's was worse and luckily Creek is ok but I seriously doubt he went at him thinking "I'll f*#k him up bro".

Great the league have admitted the Refs got it wrong, not that anyone was in doubt about BJ's ejection.

He wasn't purposely trying to injure him but it was a very crude attempt at stopping the play, which involved a player in mid-air. Recipe for disaster.

Bj was the aggressor and vukona retaliated

Vukona was 'back-pedalling' while running forwards, apparently.

Go and fix NB effing L livestats, what a ragtime show that is, instead of wasting time about Joey Wright and the wrong decision to eject BJ. TV news look and see that the game hasn't started. You lost credibilaty . Maybe have livestats in a coupla months.

It's a good thing I'm a moderate man.

IMO, I dont see how that couldnt have been an unsportsmanlike.

It was dangerous and he didnt have eyes for the ball. I saw on stuff.co.nz that Vickerman said that no way that should have been an unsportsmanlike but that they were correct on the unsportsmanlike foul from the tussle

I dont know how he arrived at that decision. If you think that wasnt worthy of an unsportsmanlike (the mid air contact) then you probably need your eyes fixed.

Sure Vukona never meant to do..doesn't take away from it been a very dangerous play

is there any way of seeing any match highlights? or even the ejections/unsportsman like foul??

I couldn't believe that half way through the game my prediction of a 36ers by 16 was looking very plausible and other than DJ not being dominant it was going to script with Vukona and Abercrombie in foul trouble early

Was a greatly fun game to watch from a neutral supporter and glad Creek wasn't badly injured by Vukona.

Couldn't believe the tech on Joey!!!

@ Macdub or Mystro

I know this is reactionary due to Te Rangi's breakout game but do you think he should start ahead of Abercrombie and play the first 3 minutes before injecting Abercrombie when the precedent on calls are worked out so that Abercrombie isn't in early foul trouble and you'd still give the minutes that they both deserve?

As for Vickerman saying Vukona's foul wasn't unsportsmanlike then sack the moron now, no way he would accept that at training and I'm looking forward to December 6 so I can boo him out of Perth Arena (if he lasts that long)

Vickerman isn't going to get sacked, he gets to blame 6 imports before that happens.
TeRangi was always going to be pilfering Abercrombies minutes as the season went on but 1 game isn't enough to warrant a complete rejig and throw him to the lions as a starter IMO.
Let him develop at his own pace but I would def be rewarding that performance with some more minutes and throwing him out there a bit earlier than he (Vickerman) has been.

Tell Ng to start getting fit to play NBL again. Ng for cadee. Just when the defence is starting to recover on the penetrate, you rain hell

Daly, assits and creates own shot...... Knows the team and players, player last year.......

the wildcats will play either cairns or Adelaide for the title this year

This thread needed its 200th post