Dix vs Watson

From a statistical perspective, I don't think Watson will challenge Dix. You're comparing Watson's 7 extra PPG with Dix's 8 extra RPG and 2 extra APG. Oh, and an extra 1.4 BPG plus fewer turnovers and fouls. Jye beats him in FT% and 3P% but I don't think that's enough. Whatever Dix loses to Newley or others, Jye may lose to Reggie or Wilkey.

If you add Oscar into the mix, he matches Dix on the scoreboard and in rebounds, but doesn't really challenge at all with assists. Oscar has an edge in blocks, fewer turnovers, and leads him in 3P% and FT%, but Dix has the superior FG%. You'd have to say that Dix would be favourite -- 5 APG from your PF is pretty tough for anyone to match.

Obviously it'll come down to how the referees have voted each game, rated scoring vs rebounds and assists, and weighted votes to winning teams. I think that last year a few players, who traditionally fly under the radar but do well for their team, polled well.

In the NBL, I went through every boxscore and gave my personal 3-2-1 votes -- in my judgement, Rychart cleanly outrated Farley, but the official standings were the opposite. Do the refs look at the boxscore before allocating votes? Do they go by what they've seen in the game alone (noticing the big shots and missing the sneaky inside twos)?

It's out of Puddifoot, Dix and Forman for me.

I would like to go with Jye Watson but if I was going to put money on it. I would have to go to Dix he fills up ever stat on the sheet and I think that's just to hard to beat. And Forestville has a better win to lose ratio than centrals.

For the women it would have to be Cayla Francis or Erin Phillips but she hasn't played in ever game so I guess that Cayla will get it.

"Obviously it'll come down to how the referees have voted each game, rated scoring vs rebounds and assists, and weighted votes to winning teams"

its interesting you say this Isaac. I beleive it is unwritten law (may even be protocol, not sure) that the umpires are not to receive box scores for the purpose of MVP's. I dont have a problem with giving them a copy, but i think maybe the evaluators rather they do the votes first.

Can any ABL evaluators confirm or deny?

oh, and Dix and Francis

anon (#38990)

i didn't know coaches voted, i just sit on my computer and do the stats. Although a few umpires request a box score, i still think it is protocol for them not to look at/use them for their votes. Could be wrong?

Dix should win outright. Look at last weeks game alone. Done deal!!!

Kym Taylor you seem to be a huge Dix fan.

Kym was a fan of anyones at the woolocott last year!

I am Velvet Sledgehammer aka Matthew Lloyd. Had the hard task of not allowing him to go off the straight and narrow as a young pup. It was purely coffee and scones, and even now we only indulge in light beer diet lemonade shandie's with a Sunday roast.

Dix will win it unless Oscar can get 40 pts , 15 + rebounds for the remainder of the season. He had a couple of low scoring nights (by his high standards 2x11pts )that will hurt his chances. Both are deserving either way.
Watson would win if he could be in the paint a bit more and rebound.. but thats not his role- maybe some more assists would help his chances ?
All 3 have been great to watch this season .. because you never know when one of them is going to fire up for a 12+ point qtr!!

Cameron Wilson while very solid this year and playing more mins than anybody will not win because he will share votes with Puddifoot who while shooting a low % at times has been SO consistent on the rebounds and other contributing stats. He is no.1 in Offensive rebounds and saves the Warriors arses when they put up avg shots at times.

Gerlach .. no. Sorry he has failed to give more of the big 30+ point games he could have done this year.Too many 18-20 point games where he could have gone on with it.
He rebounds well and is a pretty good play maker .. but has not been able to win many games off his own back. Dix, Forman and Watson have been those types of players this year.

Danny Phillips i think will get votes this year too .. but not enough to trouble the top 3 too much.

My Prediction TOP 5 vote getters

1. Dix
2. Forman
3. Watson
4. Puddifoot
5. Gerlach

Roughies : Hambour, Phillips, Davis & Reggie

Phillips is an interesting one.

In the games West has won he has been a stand out.

Referees would remember a player stroking threes from deep, but have West won enough games for Phillips to collect three votes.

I should have added Forman to the Dix vs Watson original thread, my apologies Ozzie!

I agree that Francis will be a darkhorse for the Halls Medal, and with a lot of newere referees in theLeague this season I think the usual suspects may not get the votes they may well have got in the past.

Whats the critera for all-star five?

I hope its not two games or something like that. Id hate to see Newley get a berth infront of a Phillips or Wilson just because of his reputation.

Will Ng take votes off Ozzie? Thats why I went for Dix, not too many Eagles stand out (besides Newley)

Dix by far! No offence Isaac, I know your rooting for your brother to win one but Dixie is an umpires favourite and I think NG and even Gower may take too many votes off of him, although it will be close.
I think your dark horse would have to be Cam Wilson, he's been pretty good this year and I think only puds will take a couple off of him.

Kym, seems Dix is straying from your influence. I saw him having a Bacardi Breezer the other week at the Oxford.

Panther, no offence possible -- I too rated Dix the favourite!

If you have a look at the Top 50 performances using Hoops SA Rating you get the following numbers for each player that they are in the Top 50. Be interesting to see how close they get to the votegetters, or whether they end up being nowhere near it:-

Men
Forman - 9
Dix - 7
Vandenburgh - 5
Ng - 3
Hambour - 3

Women
Braithwaite - 6
M Bowley - 6
Phillips - 5
Kelson - 5
Francis - 5

men
1.dix
2 puddifoot

women
1.phillips
2.francis

The HSA only considers stats, it doesn't consider defense. Which is why Puddifoot is right up there. Check the other contenders (particuarly Dix) when Puddifoot was on him, he had his worst game of the season.

you have a good point there eastern lowland gorilla.you must be a pf/c because there the only people who care about defence on court and can see the defensive efforts by a player such as puddifoot.

But do refs consider Defense when they are awarding votes?

Have a look back at past winners, a lot of top scorers have won in the past!

ShutUp, you make a good point further up. Dix has had some massive performances (60-70 HSA) but they still get 3 votes. A 20 and 15 elsewhere might get the same 3 votes for another player.

I don't think anyone could be unimpressed if Dix were to win it -- someone SMSed me the stats from Forestville's game last night and he was very good again (21, 19 and 6 I think).

Are you saying Watson doews the one percenters? All he does is shoot (very well, mind you)

Again saw Dix in action on Saturday night on and off the court. Plenty of stats across the board yet again. Big in points, rebounds, assists, and I saw a few blocks too. Then off the court yet again led the boys in some scone and shandie action. I was there to oversee the festivities, and yes Velvet Sledgehammer, I again intervened, so he would not be tempted to try for an Orange Breezer.

I did however see the Velvet one cutting a svelt figure on the dance floor. It looks like all those powder shakes are paying off.