Mark frost was at his terrible best! Why is he worrying about what people in the crowd are saying?? Eat a bag of cement and toughen up a bit, tech foul happy, both coaches got one, I hope he got his arse kicked for that performance. He expects coaches to respect him but when both coaches asked questions they were slapped with a warning then techs!

The other ref was just plain terrible

Unfortunately a good game of basketball was ruined by those two

Tigers fought hard, forrestville more polished in the end

Didn't you get the Memo, Basketball in SA is no longer about the players, its all about protecting the refs!!!!!!! Poor things, they find it hard enough to blow the whistle so why do you think they could communicate...? Time to download clips to You tube or bSA FB with some of the ridiculous calls....

Whistle blowing isn't the problem, they call everything, lack of communication skills, lack of game knowledge and a lack of knowledge of the rules is the problem

Mark Frost is terrible. Should not be on CABL games. Doesn't know how to communicate with players/coaches at all and frequently makes a mess of calls.

The umpiring in general has been terrible. Inconsistent from one week to the next. No wonder coaches and players are getting frustrated.

Hold hold hold

I spoke to one ABL coach and he said the Point of Emphasis DVD last 2 weeks and now it's gone completely out the window. He's not sure what they'll get week to week and it does depend on which referees you get to how it unfolds. No consistency at all. I was at Woodville Sturt and men's game it was pretty bad. Starling got man handled as did Klaosen on some drives then in the second half a few soft hand checks started getting called. It was confusing at some points. Did effect outcome Woodville were the better side.

Although it did not effect the overall result of last nights South Norwood Womens game, the umpiring at best could be described as confusing at times and inconsistent

I hate point of emphasis as it detracts from just umpiring the game. Instead the umls are looking for the whistle to lrove they have worked on that area. How about having a mock game and then stopping plays at calls and using players to demonstrate issues as they arise. Standard teaching practice.

Was Frost on the women game?

He was on the forestville v tigers game

ABL refs are so god damn terrible.

I actually think overall the standard of refereeing has improved slightly this year. Of course refs are entitled to a bad game as players and coaches are. Don't judge on one week. There is still the odd cheat as well but I'll discount them when looking at the big picture. But OVERALL the level has improved. And no...I'm not a referee but I am there every week watching and you could say 'involved'.

Two weeks in a row isn't ok though

State leaguer, if you think Mark is the better of the two Frost boys then you haven't been watching closely enough. Mark is by far the worst. He has no feel for the game and will give a tech rather than justify a call because that's easier for him.

Both as bad as each other

"How about having a mock game and then stopping plays at calls and using players to demonstrate issues as they arise."

Refs already give players a lot of feedback and warnings when they're crossing the line. Players won't want to show up for a meaningless mock game and clubs won't want to pay refs for that service. Players and coaches should recognise that its a hard thankless and underpaid job full of grey areas.