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Years ago

Joe Ingles wins Euroleague title

Maccabi Tel Aviv won in OT! Ingles therefore won his first Euroleague title after making the Final Four for three straight years.

Now we want Mills & Baynes to win an NBA title with the Spurs and a Boomers medal at the World Cup :)

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Gordon Liddy  
Years ago

The Ingles are my favourite squadron.

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janitor  
Years ago

Is jingles a starter / key player for tel aviv?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No. He's normally (without any injuries) the 10th man of Maccabi. But luckily for him one of their main players, Shawn James, got injured earlier this season, and was knocked out for the remainder of the season.

So that bumped him up the the 9th man, and gave him a lot more playing time.

Still, the 9th man of the team isn't all the great.

Nonetheless, he got a Euroleague title as a rotation player.

And regardless of what all the moronic NBA only fans in the world say, anywhere in any country in the world they might be in, every single rotation player on the top Euroleague teams is an NBA rotation player.

And the people that say otherwise are total clowns that do not know a thing about basketball.

So no, he's not a key player for Maccabi, he's actually their least important rotation player. But the fact is that simply being a main rotation player in a big Euroleague club automatically means you can be an NBA rotation player.

Because no one can make it in those biggest Euroleague club's rotations unless they are at that level, and it's simply ludicrous nonsense whenever anyone says otherwise. That's how high the level is in the biggest European clubs.

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kason jidd  
Years ago

Jingles is going to have a great year. A euro league title and then a NBA contract. This will be the year that people see how talented Jingles is.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

NBA contract? Says who?

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Benno  
Years ago

Near the start of the season he looked to of had better games. Didn't he move to Israel in search of more minutes??

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Flip  
Years ago

Yeah as the 9th or 10th man on the rotation he averaged 22.3 mins a game for the whole year, this was .1 less than his euroleague mins.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He is a starter you nugget haha

And a crucial player for that side

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He isn't a starter, nor a crucial player. And they don't have "starters" and "bench" in Euroleague. That's only in American basketball and basketball that is based on American basketball (Americas, Oceania, Africa, Asia).

European basketball does not have starters and bench, it just has rotation players and places from 1-10, or 1-11 in the rotation.

Maccabi's team stats (the stats at the very bottom are the full season stats):

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=TEL&seasoncode=E2013

Ingles' stats:

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?clubcode=TEL&pcode=003062&seasoncode=E2013

And no one that averages 1.0 points per game during the Euroleague Final Four is a "crucial player".

Don't troll.

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paul  
Years ago

Joe started the season as a major factor, and at one stage was right up the top of the MVP race. But as the season wore on his impact shrank and by the Final Four he had a very minor role.

It seemed other teams figured out he goes left, left and more left and he struggled to find a Plan B. That meant TA pretty much stopped using him in pick and rolls and he became a spot-up shooter, not his strength.

Still, winning a title and spending a year under a coach as good as David Blatt can't hurt, even though he still hasn't become the player he has the potential to.

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paul  
Years ago

BTW, that final game was incredible, one of the best games I've seen. Shame overtime wasn't close, but Tyrese Rice is just a freak and delivered both Final Four victories off his own hand.

I love watching Macabbi TA play - small ball, aggressive defence, fast-paced offence, stretch the D at every opportunity - it's quite an Australian style and to conquer Europe doing it is very impressive.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Maccabi Tel Aviv were the outsiders by a long stretch behind Real, Barca & CSKA to win the Final Four. Incredible finish in their semi to steal it and then by a CSKA mistake and then to go to OT against the best team in Europe this season Real and blow them out by double digits in the space of five minutes in the final is an amazing run and story.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They were not outsiders against CSKA. That's just media trying to spin a story. CSKA was a terrible team all season and only made the final four because Real Madrid lost the last game on purpose to get them in.

CSKA has a terrible coach and the worst chemistry other than Fener in the whole league. They would have lost in the playoffs 3-1 against Panathinaikos, that has a rookie coach, literally a rookie coach and the worst offense in Euroleague history, but Diamantidis had the biggest choke anyone ever saw in Euroleague history in game one, and that let CSKA escape.

They lost Russian Cup 16th finals to a team with 1/13 their budget. A team that does not even play in 2nd tier Eurocup, let alone Euroleague.

They are down 2-0 against a team with 1/3 their budget in their national domestic league. A team that did not even make the playoffs in Euroleague.

This in the just the quarterfinals of the national league playoffs. Down 2 games to none in a 5 game series, and the first two games they lost were at home. So they are all but done, barring a miracle their.

CSKA is a POS team.

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Bear  
Years ago

Nice to hear Joey Ingles on SEN this morning after the final and the festivities he has had to endure, poor bugger :]

A throw away line I am sure, but when asked about hoops back here and what he thought about the Melbourne Tigers situation he mentioned he never played for them and would love to come back as a South Dragon again...!

Congratulations to Joey and his team.

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paul  
Years ago

CSKA Moscow went 12-2 in the Top 16, equal best, and had the second best record over the entire season behind Real Madrid. They didn't sneak in anywhere.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

CSKA snuck into the final four - fact. Real Madrid lost their last game of the Top 16 on purpose, which allowed CSKA to avoid Olympiacos (who they should have played in the playoffs), who would have destroyed them. By Real losing their last game on purpose, the seedings changed.

So yes, CSKA most definitely was not a Final Four team. And a team with 8 losses during the season was not tied for the 2nd best record ever over the entire season. Not even remotely close.

Anyway, the earliest rumors from Israel are that Maccabi will not pick up the team option year on Ingles' contract, and that he will be the first player that they cut after the season ends.

The reason stated for why Maccabi wants him gone supposedly is according to these rumors, and for why his playing time and role on the team kept getting smaller and smaller as the season progressed - because he was unable to grasp the team's offense system well enough to the liking of the coach for his particular role on the team.

Coincidentally, this same issue was rumored to be why his time at Barca did not work out.

So if his problem is strictly just basketball IQ, then he definitely should go to the NBA.

The NBA is where players can do nothing but run and jump and still be successful. But you can't make it at the top level Euroleague clubs as a ball handler (what Ingles wants to do) unless you have a really high basketball IQ.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

CSKA were more of a Final Four team than Maccabi, that is the point, amazing run by Maccabi. WTF are you smoking, in the semis CSKA were $1.36 to Maccabi $3.17 underdogs. Yes CSKA not that great but Maccabi were worse but had an amazing run to beat CSKA at the death and then in OT demolish the best side Real.

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paul  
Years ago

This year's top 10 Euroleague records for Regular Season and Top 16:

Real Madrid 21-3
Barcelona 19-5
CSKA Moscow 19-5
Olympiacos 18-6
Tel Aviv 16-8
Milan 15-9
Fenerbahce Ulker 14-10
Galatasaray 13-11
Kuban 13-11
Panathinaikos 12-12

Looks like Moscow had the second-best record to me, anon.

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paul  
Years ago

"CSKA was a terrible team all season"

"They are down 2-0 against a team with 1/3 their budget in their national domestic league. A team that did not even make the playoffs in Euroleague.

This in the just the quarterfinals of the national league playoffs. Down 2 games to none in a 5 game series, and the first two games they lost were at home. So they are all but done, barring a miracle their."

Anon was definitely onto something, CSKA won their next nine games, sweeping the SF and GF to claim the VTB United League title!

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