Bizzy
Years ago

Josh Smith Released by Pistons

In an unusual occurrence Josh Smith has been released by the Detroit Pistons with about $30m still owing to him. According to Van Gundy there was no incident it is just how the team can move forward.

Josh Smith Released

Where will he end up? Is he worth taking a risk on at this stage of his career given his recent shooting woes etc?

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Will end up at Houston id say. Man to just give away $26mill like that, guy tustve been a real douche. Wasn't playing well but wasn't playing bad enough to give away that kind of money surely!

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Wilson Sting  
Years ago

Wow, come and join Childress for a holiday in the NBL! Would love to see him with Wollongong.

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Mick  
Years ago

Could still be a valuable piece to a team that has shooting at the 1, 2 and 3 and 5.

His days of playing small forward are done. Way too easy to scout.

@Kobe24: you just had to watch a Pistons game to know why they got rid of him. He is a pretty damn good post player and a terrible 3 point shooter and all he does is chuck up threes and long twos.

He's good mates with Dwight so Houston is a possibility, but Darryl Morey would HATE his game. With Beverly, Harden and Ariza you have three good-to-great 3 pt shooters, so slotting Smith in at the four, where he can be a third option on offense sounds like an ok fit.

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Mick  
Years ago

I don't understand why they didn't pull the trigger on that Sacto trade. Unless sacto was demanding picks along with Williams, Thompson and Landry, it doesn't make sense. Those guys are somewhat useful players and could have been flipped into other assets.

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Mick  
Years ago

J-Smoove's shot chart:

http://on.nba.com/1xbmYaH

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Detroit wouldn't pull the trigger on a trade because nobody would take him unless first round picks were part of the deal. You'd be crazy to give up first round picks for him.

Anyone who thinks his career is done or that he could come to the NBL is crazy. The guy can really play and will land in Houston or Dallas and be a valuable piece of the playoff puzzle.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can't believe Detroit decided to just eat his contract with 2.5 years left on his deal.

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Flinders80  
Years ago

MoneyBall - Actually Detroit are paying $30mill for you to play against them. That's how much they valued you.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Flinders80, exactly. That's quite the opinion of his play, to just throw him out and pay him to not play with them, and even play against them. And he gets paid whether he jacks long twos or plays more efficient basketball.

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Dazz  
Years ago

I know nothing about the rules in the NBA. Can somebody explain why they would do this?
There was some mention of a "stretch" provision? Do they get a salary cap concession if he's nolonger listed?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He has 2.5 years and $35m+ left on his contract.

Detroit are using the stretch provision on him just over $5.4m a season for the next 5 years, he will stay on the Pistons cap until 2020.

They axed Josh Smith because he Drummond & Monroe don't all fit and Monroe wanted Smith traded last offseason. They were unable to trade him and Monroe signed his QO but refused to re-sign with the Pistons to a long-term deal.

However, Monroe will be a free agent at the end of this season and the Pistons will be able to offer him more money than any other team is allowed to.

Basically this was done to curry favour with Greg Monroe in the hope of getting him to re-sign.

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Dazz  
Years ago

So, would they be planning to sign somebody else this season?

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Isaac  
Years ago

You wouldn't think so with the record they have. Would be a waste of money. Better off blooding younger players.

Things that influenced their trade situation were that other teams wanted draft picks and/or to offload a similarly bad contract. A team looking to rebuild doesn't want to give up draft picks.

The 76ers have been taking on loads of bad contracts (and then ditching the players, essentially) in order to get picks and dominate future drafts.

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Mick  
Years ago

Look at his shot chart I posted above Dazz, it explains his value to this team.

It's addition by subtraction.

The problem is:

1). Smith can't play small forward in 2014. The defenses are all too good and if you can't stretch the floor you will lose a tonne of games, unless you are a truly elite defensive team, and the Pistons have been ATROCIOUS defensively when the Smith/Monroe/Drummond frontcourt shares the floor together. Monroe and Drummond both can't shoot either, so you're offense is clogged. In fact, no one on this team can shoot, so it makes Smith seem even worse than he is. Clogginess aside, Smith loves hurling up three pointers and long twos, despite not being able to shoot, so it's directly inefficient before you even get to the indirect flow-on spacing stuff.

2). Smith can't play starting power forward for this team because Greg Monroe is better than him

3). You can't bring Smith off the bench because you'll lose him mentally.

So you have to get rid of him, but he's super overpaid and people want picks to take his contract. You can't give up picks because you're a rebuilding team, so you waive him. Super dumb teams like Sacramento or Brooklyn

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Mick  
Years ago

*Super dumb teams like Sacramento or Brooklyn might have taken him but even they are getting smarter

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