Jordan Smith to a div 1 college ha ha ha ha ha wonder how that happened

Has anyone done a div2 list how many going down this path

Looks like far more div1 spots for the girls over the boys

Have a look at where our women rank internationally and that makes sense. Our women are much better equiped at that level then the men. While there isn`t much money in the omens Bball in AUS we certainly produce the players to match overseas markets.

div1 colleges have 12 scholarships to offer for boys and 15 for girls, something to do with equality regarding sports as the American football offers so many scholarships for boys they level the field by giving more to the girls sports.
But that's only Div1,Id say its also harder for the boys to pick up a div1 scholarship at a good college due to how strong the American pool from high school is, that's why so many boys end up in Div2(you will find more boys still going to college than girls if you include Div2),and some of those Div2 schools are better than the lower ranked Div1.
Then you have the Juco entrants as well, so yes lots of Aussie kids now finding their way to the states, not a lot to keep them here really.

Some listed don't go till 2016 either

The big myth is that cause you go to college you'll come back and play nbl....most end up back in the state leagues as if they can't make NBL they won't make it in Europe unless you hold a dual passport

but at least its a life experience free education and more opportunity than most will get staying here

Are some of these players better of staying in Australia and working towards the NBL otherwise what opportunities will they have after college I'm also wondering how many in the big list above have made an Australian squad or team lots of names I've never heard of before

020 90% of the men on this list will have very good professional careers ahead of them after college. I think around 30% of the men on this list will be millionaires playing the sport. Pretty cool way to make a living if you ask me.

If all else fails if they pick the right courses they will have a highly respected degree at the end of it. If they aren't likely to be pros it is important to do the right courses and go to a school that DOES put education first.

St Marys has 6 aussies going dispite all the legal issues they have had , be interesting to see what sanctions the NCAA eventually puts on them

Any of the players going to top 10 div1 colleges?
boys or girls

How many have represented their country or are likely to return to do so

If this is the div1 list can we see a list of players going to div2

If this is the div1 list can we see a list of players going to div2

Are the players on the above list from a mixture of States or mainly Vic/NSW

Every year players (especially Aussie men) move from a D1 to a D2, for many reasons. Mostly because of a lack of opportunity, whether that is due to injury, form, skill or just a wrong choice.

Taking this pathway offers plenty that is not available by staying here in Aus or NZ, such as a free education with zero hex debt (not at Juco's), US style coaching, cultural experience, a degree (not so much in the medical field), networking opportunities and the chance to travel and see the world etc...

It is very true that the choice made is often a difficult one without some connections or research being done along the way, but if the fit is right and the kid going over is doing it for the correct reasons it can be the time of ones life.

Selecting the right college is not usually related to D1 or D2, it could be either, as has been mentioned before there are D2 schools that would be a much better option than many D1 schools for many reasons.

Generally speaking you can get an equal or better edication at a D2 with more opportunities to play and learn the game, then still forge a pro or semi-pro career in basketball at the end of your college years.

D1 is more about the basketball and of course they have more money, media and exposure to higher levels of play, in general, but the opportunities at D1 colleges are fewer and only our best athletes can really compete at this level consistently enough to stay on court for decent minutes.

As with all sporting scholarship opportunities your skill, ability, size and attitude will carry you a long way, so if you go to a D1 based on who you know and you are not up to it, expect to struggle when you are found out. Be strong, yet humble and true to yourself and have a great work ethic, no matter what happens don't expect the world and you will end up in a much happier place!

A mix of states. At least half of the boys have been Aus reps at various levels and no they wouldn't be better staying here and chasing the rare NBL development spots. Racking up HECS debt to get an education to end up in the same place.

about a third of the girls have rep Australia at some stage, most Id say have been state players at some stage

Ben Simmons 6'10 f Louisiana state - Vic
Deng adel 6'7 f Louisville - ??
Jonah bolden 6'10 f ucla - NSW
Jack mcveigh 6'8 f Nebraska - QLD
Joseph acuil 7'0 f Baylor - ??
Kyle Clark 6'7 f st Mary's - TAS
Tanner krebs 6'6 g st Mary's - TAS
Jordan hunter 6'10 f st Mary's - ??
Matthew McCarthy 6'9 f San Fransisco - ??
Damien rance 6'8 f San francisco state - ??
Abiola akintola 6'7 f Denver - VIC
Callum barker 6'9 f Bradley - TAS
George blagojevic 6'8 f Hartford - VIC
Michael wearne 6'2 g Eastern Washington - VIC
Chiir maker 6'7 f Portland - ??
Jesse hunt 6'7 f Eastern Washington - ??
Deng Riak 6'10 f east Carolina - ??
Jaden weldon 6'1 g nicholls state - ??
Isaac Humphries 7'0 c Kentucky (?) - NSW

To the poster asking if it's worth it....what's the hecs debt you're left with after a degree in Australia? And forget about trying to hold down even a part time job while you're trying to crack it for an NBL gig or even a DP spot as you're expected to train full time as well as fit any study in you do, usually for the reward of a polo shirt and some petrol money if you're lucky. So better hope your folks have deep pockets A study I read a few years back put the value of a Div 1 Scholarship at 15-25K US per year depending on the school. And that was just educational value, not even throwing in all the free travel/footwear/clothing. If you're smart you can come back with a decent degree and the benefit of that 100k and still have a chance at an NBL gig. Yeah I think its worth it

The vote, taken during the NCAA's annual convention, redefines an athletic scholarship so that it can cover not only the traditional tuition, room, board, books and fees, but also the incidental costs of attending college. That means a scholarship will now be able to pay for items including transportation and miscellaneous personal expenses.


It is closer to 40K pa if you throw in room and board and now misc personal expenses.

Yep! Correct. Here is the link:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2015/01/17/ncaa-convention-cost-of-attendance-student-athletes-scholarships/21921073/


Some other articles, saying scholarships are worth up to $150k pa, albeit some would argue the "maths" is questionable.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-value-of-college-scholarship.htm

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-03-29-scholarship-worth-final-four_N.htm

Only a few major conferences impacted by the new rule but it is significant.

Would all on the above list be on a full scholarship or partial

D1 is an all or nothing for basketball. A "head count" sport

Yes. All Div 1 scholarships are full ones

Div 1 scholarships are valued at USD40k-50k, including accommodation, food, etc. HECS fees depend on what course you study and are in bands.

0. Maths, Science, Statistics - ~ 5k per year
1. Education, Nursing, Arts - ~ 6k per year
2. Computing, Engineering - ~ 8k per year
3. Law, Accounting, Dentistry, Medicine - ~ 9k per year

USA Colleges offer a Good life experience, you don't incur a HECS Debt, don't have to pay for accommodation or food for 8 months a year or longer if you do summer school, etc, etc.

If you don't make the NBL/WNBL after going to college I doubt you'd make it if you stayed here.

Then college life is not for everyone, some don't like living away from home, some don't have the academic results to go, etc It's not for everyone and nobody is saying it is. For other staying here and doing a trade is the right choice for them.

Good luck to those who go, great opportunity, but it's not life and death if you go or don't go. It's an individual choice.

I will say it would appear many go with a slightly naive attitude, that because they've played in a State team, even National teams that they're going to go over and play lots of minutes.

Please remember you are a Student Athlete, Student first, Athlete second, don't go just for the basketball.

Warning - Please be aware, College Head Coaches (& some Assistant Coaches) get paid like AFL coaches here, some even more. For the College coach his career & lively hood depends on SUCCESS of the team and their program. If you can't help the team have success (Wins - Conference Championships, etc), then expect disappointment & lack of or no minutes on the court. Be prepared for that.

So what happens if you have told a few porky pies on your application? Or if you rock up to college and can't catch will they send you home

Yep, you'll be sent home or maybe red shirted. If you can't play, then expect to get no minutes and then get cut at the end of the year.

Despite what people think college scholarships are a year to year thing. It is not guaranteed that it is 4 or in some cases 5 years.

If you tell porky pies expect to get found out, academically or basketball wise.

Most, if not all the colleges recruiting in Australia do there due diligence on you.

They're not going to stump up 40 -50k without any checks on you academic standing and/or basketball pedigree.

Also, bit difficult to tell porky pies academically as you have to adequately pass an SAT. Also, your secondary school gets asked to certify your results.

There is one person on the list who cannot play basketball, has been dumped by multiple coaches, and her colleges bio initially said she had been coached by someone who hasn't coached for three years, it has since been removed from the colleges website

Who?

Who cares, anon is obviously trolling, keep it civil. If you have a axe to grind keep it to yourself.

I'm most if not all cases the school wil either pay for them to have an official 2 day visit to the school or a coach will fly out to watch them play and train. They only have 13 scollarship spots worth $150-200 000 over the 4 years they don't give them away to foreign kids lightly.

Which Colleges on the above list would be the best and why what do they do better what do they offer these Elite players

Courtney woods 6'2 guard.
That's a big guard in college...
She played beside Wallace in state champs yeah?

How much court time should these guys expect to see first year in

Simmons 30-35 mins
Adel 20-25 mins
Bolden 20 mins
Humphries 10 mins
Wynyard 10 mins (late in season)
Mcveigh 10 mins
Acuil 10 mins
Krebs, Clark, hunter 10-15 mins each

The rest. Who knows...


Could see an all aussie lineup at st Mary's.

Naar, krebs, Clark, hunter or pinaeu, hunter or landale.

So the $150.-$200. Would these full scholarships include travel back and forth to Australia for their summer breaks or does Basketball Australia fly the Aus reps back to play for Australia

Is there a div 2 list

Landale now ligit 7'0" and has been working on his strength so should start games ahead of Hunter at SMC this season. Hunter could get 5 minutes here and there.

NCAA rule do not allow schools to pay for travel to and from home. That is covered by the player. I doubt BA would be flying any of them back.

How long ago would these offers have been made 6 months 12 months ago

Any names that have missed a div 1 college spot that should be included on this list

After watching the Dante injury are these players covered by the schools insurance

I thought sukmhan bhinder would go to d1.

Do you think landale went under the radar compared to other 7'0 players like Humphries, Malone and perry. The guy showed some real promise in his first year when he got limited minutes.

Anon#450, Landale only took up basketball at a late age, in his mid to late teens, he developed late so he wasn't known because he wasn't playing anywhere.

Because he was going to Geelong Grammar School he played under 18 rep ball with the Supercats, this is where it began for him and where he got his chance to work on his skills and develop, prior to Youth League, State and National recognition.

#463 If Jack took up bball late, who was that kid running around the courts in under 8's?

Be very interesting to see what those 4 bigs will look like in the next few years with some weight training.

Current height and weight?
7'0 Humphries at 245lbs
6'11-7'0 Landale at 255
7'0 Malone at 245
7'0-7'1 Perry at about 235?

Compare that with nz... All u21 bigs.

6'8 fotu/6'10 Wynnyard/6'10 freeman
7'0 Adams/6'11 Timmins/6'11 salt

Would all of these players have been contacted directly from
These colleges or would they have had to market them selves using agents

Landale didn't get much from Geelong. He's had a private coach since he was a kid.

Reply #541551

re: NCAA d1 signings for men and women.


Would all of these players have been contacted directly from
These colleges or would they have had to market them selves using agents


depends on the player, some would use recruiting agents, some just send highlight tapes, some have colleges contact them, usually the good players who end up at the top colleges the colleges come recruiting as they only go for what they are looking for, the lower level Div ones usually come through agencies, but also they send their scouts to Nationals and tournament's to see what's around and then the process begins. You would probably find a large percentage of those who make a national team would have offers coming in.
Recruiting agencys can work either by the players contacting them and they find colleges or the reverse, colleges contact the agencies and they find players.

Top recruits get calls and the colleges do all the leg work. I.e Simmons could go anywhere he choose and every1 wanted him.

The lesser players via placing agents or contacts who push them to coaches and programs they have connections to and have place previous players. You'll note some clubs have players regularly go to the same program or two. Example is Kilsyth and Stenson.

Anon #477 I can't imagine many under 8's being touted as future college players and anon #554 if he didn't get much from playing against VJBL teams and in Youth League and doing NITP training against other state bigs at Geelong then where was his best development at ages 15-18? Having a private coach is necessary for individual skills and learning but you still have to play and train against someone.

To the OP. You can add Beck Hatchard to the list....


http://www.msubobcats.com/news/2015/4/30/WBB_0430155835.aspx

Does anyone know how many players will be looking at Div 2 schools and which Div 2 Colleges be the best

Anon^ the best colleges are the ones that suit that athlete the best. Some of the highest ranking colleges (D1 or D2) are not the best for Aussie kids regardless of how good people think they are or how much fame they get.

Any idea on the age range of this crop I know one girl is a little older

Some of these posts are hilarious. 30% of the men becoming millionaires? Please.

What are their realistic outcome for these players at the end

#639, hahaha.... do u realize how miniscule your Aussie rules is globally LOL. What is the ceiling on these guys, chief? Euroleague or NBA? We live in a big world brother. LOL



Tai Wynyard
Ben Simmons 6'10 f Louisiana state - VIC
Deng adel 6'7 f Louisville - VIC
Jonah bolden 6'10 f ucla - NSW
Jack mcveigh 6'8 f Nebraska - QLD
Kyle Clark 6'7 f st Mary's - TAS
Isaac Humphries 7'0 c Kentucky (?) - NSW

Any idea on the age range of this crop I know one girl is a little older



most would be 96/97 born if they are going this year so 18/19yrs old(some on list have committed but wont g till 2016). Qld finish school a little earlier so any from their could be 97/98 born.
the usual time is the year after they finish yr 12.