T83
Years ago

Basketball SA Player Imposed Lockout

Hi Guys,

As discussed in the previous thread "SA District Goes Untimed?", somebody has created an event to deal with the issue of essentially playing Social basketball at District prices.

Give it a read, and invite your team to the event.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1647095425552274/

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Baller#3  
Years ago

Good idea in principal but if your paying the forfeit fees it's not going to work. If every team forfeits in the divisions effected and refuses to pay the fee they can't kick everyone out or they lose to much n

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T83  
Years ago

That's why we need everybody on board.
If we wanted to play games like Social, we'd play Social.

Get on the event, invite your friends, SMS them and let them know what's happening before Monday (when you can officially declare a Forfeit).

There are several teams interested in forfeiting and taking a stand against this already. Join the event and page! It's only 10 hours old and gaining traction!

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

I'm with Baller#3: unless you're planning on boycotting the forfeit fees this won't help your cause as you'd essentially be paying BSA to do nothing.

Why wouldn't the players just not play summer and clubs withdraw the teams? No forfeit fees for the players/clubs and no cash in pocket for BSA (and more work for BSA to reorganize the comp).

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Yballer  
Years ago

Why would they pay the forfeit fee is they are boycotting?

Obviously they wouldn't pay them

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Anonymous  
Years ago

PlaymakerMo

This is what BSA want, clubs loose money - no teams and BSA reap all the social rewards.

Unless BSA can make an official announcement stating valid reasons, FINANCIAL GAIN is the only reason for the changes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

These changes were made in conceltation with the appropriate committees & passed on to the clubs as soon as they became official as well as being posted online, the fact that individuals or the clubs haven't made sure they've checked this is there own fault.

District is backwards in SA, it is suppose to be for elite athletes not the average Joe & if it's gonna be played under one banner they should have different conditions so it's more beneficial to play in higher competitions.

As for the money comments BSA would technically make more money via the rego for district teams (why they haven't dropped low district all together as suggested).

Finally forfeit fines will still be charged to the clubs & the fine for withdrawing a team is rather large as well & the clubs will have to pay regardless of a player boycott which would result in fees going up for juniors as they will be the ones who cover the losses that are created.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Typical lazy BSA response - blame the clubs for everything that BSA (via their inept committees) introduce.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

BSA does not have committee's.

They haven't for over a year. What they have done is decide that the staff at BSA will be the new committee so that they can do what ever they want without an independent group to knock it back.

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

Yballer, this comes from the facebook event page linked by OP:

"As per section 3.20 of the By-Laws, Notified Forfeit Fees are only $25 per team, this equates to roughly $4 per player. This is much cheaper than paying $9.50 to play 15-20 minutes of game time after driving across town for a 9:50pm game at Hillcrest or Morphett Vale."

So no, it wasn't clearly the case that they had no intention of paying BSA...

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

#381, make a donation to your club for the equivalent amount of your playing fees if that clears your conscience. Cut out the middle-man: BSA.

Seriously, this isn't rocket science.

#393, clubs are only fined $200 after the nomination closure date - when that is though I have no clue. Again, unless the boycotters are planning on not paying forfeit fines (which doesn't appear to be the case), it seems more economical to withdraw and potentially compensate your club for the withdrawal fee.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

the forfeiting teams won't and never have paid forfeit fines.

Their clubs will have to pay the fines.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If I was a club president or Secretary I would be seeking the fee's waived as the players were not given time to choose to nominate based on new timing rules. Club nominations were before players knew the game had changed so if teams withdraw or forfeit in protest the club should not be penalised for BSA pulling a swifty surely?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And clubs should just refuse to pay. As long as ALL clubs can put aside their petty personal gripes and agendas and do something for the good of basketball overall in this state, they have the power. It is just coz it never happens as BSA successfully time and again play divide-and-conquer.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

My social team can beat most of the Div 4 -6 teams going around. It is good people want to still keep active and play sport but let's be honest here the ability of players at this level is no more than social. Some of the comments on the facebook page are laughable especially losing the ability to coach in tight situations at the death knell. The final three minutes are still fully timed.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Fact: Clubs response to bsa was no to new changes but still went ahead. Aylen is to blame in my view.
And to the best social basketball team poster, good on you but it does make a difference to these district teams that may have played together since juniors and love their club.

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.  
Years ago

Also if you are a good div 3 senior player - you are not able to play any more district that week - so yes your a grade social team may be better than div 5 seniors

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Anonymous  
Years ago

weren't these changes told the clubs more than six weeks ago and they didn't tell the changes to their teams. most clubs don't care for the div 4-6 they are not a priority. don't blame aylen he has been in the job for five minutes and don't blame outgoing fry this is the silver hair fox who runs the office

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes, all these decisions were made to free up courts and make it easier on ref's.

Not in the best interests of basketball.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Clubs were sent proposed by law changes & were asked for feedback. Why would they pass on the draft to their members? And considering it seems almost every club expressed concern over this it would have been fair to assume perhaps BSA would reconsider this move.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Aylen seems just as arrogant in person as he does as a ref.

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realism  
Years ago

So if it wasn't Aylen and it wasn't Fry, who is the Silver head fox? Mike Gibson?

The draft was released 6 weeks ago sure, the clubs said no, and the changes were released the week of season start. CLUBS couldn't advise nominating teams because they couldn't confirm BSA would change it, pre-empting BSA arrogance and disregard for its MEMBERS and the people it servers shouldn't be what clubs have to do.

BSA should take it on the chin waive fee's for the simple fact they tried to slip it in our backdoor!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I thought these matters were being handled by Basketball Adelaide as a collective rather than individual clubs. What did Basketball Adelaide decide and communicate?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I thought these matters were being handled by Basketball Adelaide as a collective rather than individual clubs. What did Basketball Adelaide decide and communicate?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Typical BSA arrogance. Whilst the standard might not be ABA level, it is still full of players who love their club. It is sad that our sport is run by such a shambolic organisation.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How successful was this?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

From looking at the results there are a lot of 20 - 0 scores. Taking a lot of teams were no shows?

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e  
Years ago

" it is still full of players who love their club'

So all these people will be paying the forfeiting fine if they love their club and wont expect them to pay. Glorified social at best. I think you will find most of the big clubs have said if you forfeit we will pull your team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You haven't looked at the website then because both Southern and Forestville have forfeited games.

And its only South has threatened to pull their teams, and I wouldn't call the, one of the big clubs unless you only look at playing numbers.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good on the clubs for sticking together - for once - for something good for basketball rather than be conquered by our horrible governing body.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

e - and what if the clubs just flat out refuse to pay? What will you errrr BSA do then?

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