hikikomori
Years ago
At the moment, with the 24 second shot clock (with the nbl's standard) means teams barely have time to get the ball out of their own half, and then pretty much jack up a shot without executing a play from a play book
With the NBL being a few steps down from the NBA, should they consider the 30 second shot clock?
KingJames
Years ago
24 seconds is plenty of time to bring the ball up and run offense.
Not sure about the NBL but definitely juniors should be 30 seconds like it used to be, and while we're at it, bring back the jump ball!!! The Possession arrow/jump ball switch is the worst change in the way the game's played ever, IMO.
AngusH
Years ago
Given the amount of fullcourt pressure teams play in the NBL, it's on the coaching staff if a team can't consistently get the ball over the halfway line with enough time to initiate the offense.
Baller#3
Years ago
I think juniors shouldn't even have a shot clock to be honest
KET
Years ago
If they have a 30 second shot clock, the point guard will probably just excessively dribble for longer
Juniors should be 8 seconds to get the ball over half court, then start the 24.
Bear
Years ago
The only juniors I am aware of that have a shot clock, at least in Victoria, is at VJBL level or higher, never at domestic level. Maybe in a tournament and of course at things like Nationals.
So, at juniors I see no problem at all, interesting thought to allow 8 seconds then 24 in the half court, but too hard to manage one would think, officials don't always get the 8 seconds right and how do you manage something like two different time sets in one sequence of play?
In the NBL I have enjoyed some of the high octane offence and fast pace shooting style of play, when shots are going in it makes for pleasant and exciting basketball to watch.
I see no need to extend the shot clock personally, the main reason is that some teams are already over possessing the ball and running too complex an offensive set while others have got it together batter and easily get a good shot off from their possession.
Efficiency needs to improve in the NBL, not sure that a longer shot clock will help, the other thing is defending for longer periods will increase fatigue, by the end of a game it could start to become less attractive to watch...
Last thing, how will a 30 second shot clock impact on overall length of games, it may not suit the TV time slot if we start to extend the games too long?!
I think the NBA should extend the shot clock to 30 to factor for how bored players get in the regular season. That way they can entertain themselves a bit more with other things before worrying about shooting the ball.
lolball
Years ago
i think juniors should have 32 seconds like in NCAA
why do we expect U16s and 18s to play at a mens game pace?
I often think when watching junior games "thank god for the shot clock".
The amount of coaches trying to torture kids by making them play over structured crap is appalling.
24 seconds is plenty.
lolball
Years ago
if there was more time there would probably be less structure, because the kids would have time to be set and controlled
there would probably come a more college school of thought with "lets get into our set, but if it doesnt work its not the end of the world because we still have 6-10 seconds on the clock so lets move the ball and look for a good shot" rather than coaches trying to teach offence that has to go perfectly to get a shot they want every time
Bear, NSW junior reps introduce the shot clock at Under 14 Division 1 level and for some years now have used the 8 seconds in the back court, shot clock starts when the ball crosses halfway method. It seems to function fairly well.
Oh, it then reverts to normal from U16's. That rule is for 14's only
30 second shot clock for 16s and below but really love the idea of the 24 starting over half court.
Juniors should have some time so everyone can at least have a chance on offence, often I have found the shot clocks down to 12 seconds before the 1st pass and then it's either chuck and duck or teams just run sets for the better scorers and only they shoot it leaving the others to pick up scraps and not developing them. And then people wonder why kids aren't developing in juniors.
Wwizard
Years ago
Leave as is.
Since I was a child, it has been 24 seconds.
My belief is, longer means less entertainment from a purely supporter type person.
If they want to reinstate the 12 min quarter, then maybe 30seconds is workable but then add on an extra foul per each player etc.
Just too hard, so leave as is
Dave
Years ago
Maybe for Juniors, for any professional league that would be horrible. Leagues are already looking to go the other way, with the inclusion of the 14 second shot clock after an offensive rebound.
If 24 seconds is not enough you are letting crap guards dribble too much. Shut it down.
No, but they should bring back 12 minute quarters to make the score bigger
hikikomori
Years ago
RE Anonymous 745-
i prefer the 10 minute quarters
blink and the game's over ;)
"A quick game's a good game"
"A win's a win"
hikikomori
Years ago
also, you dont need 12 minute quarters for higher scoring games, all you need to win in any game is 1 point
It doesnt matter if its 1-0 or 1million 1 to 1 million
Dazz
Years ago
24 seconds is fine, plenty of time.
I think where it becomes an issue is when it is not reset, but that's a whole different issue.
The smaller the shot clock the better. If you've watched college ball with their 35 second clock you would know how ugly it is
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