Train
Years ago

Official stood down after Cats v United match

"The Weekend West understands the officials from that match, who waved off a potential foul against Jermaine Beal in the final play of the game, have been temporarily stood down because of their performance"

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/29959657/wildcats-must-bounce-back-to-keep-in-touch/

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Kobe24  
Years ago

3 refs, 1 stood down, surely the other 2 could've made the call. How many times do you see the ref out of place make the call. Perth fans will have a field day wit this one though smh.

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Train  
Years ago

It looks like a bit of an unconfirmed report IMO.
The ref might have made a "bad call" against the Cats but the reality is the bad calls went both ways.

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

LOL, and people on here saying it wasnt a foul.

These refs were to busy cheer leading with the rest of the crowd.

No doubt they got caught up with the crowd after Holts basket.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

And here is the first to react... its sport. Trust me, it feels a lot worse when you FEEL your team got screwed in a final ala Mee and Lowry. Train said it, bad calls both ways, and that is pretty much every game in every sport. Humans make errors, and also get a lot of 50-50 calls correct!

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Marcus Camby  
Years ago

The ref got it wrong OK, but the Cats should look at their inability to block out Majok and shooting 21% from downtown.

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snooch  
Years ago

I wouldn't read too much into an unconfirmed report out of WA. "Officials" - as in all of them, over one call?
If it's true, that's a joke. You don't stand refs down over something like that.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Were there any issues with Holt not getting the and 1 on his late game drive?

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Train  
Years ago

Keep in mind its a "West Australian" news article. Home town bias and reporting is expected and justifiable :P

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natwhereyouat  
Years ago

Not sure if it's true or not.. And IMO it wasn't a foul. If that was a foul then the play before hand, Holt should have got an and one.

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cats 4 life  
Years ago

bout time! not just that game, should be looked at for every game! that's how they will learn!

some games like that decide a coaches job or a teams chance to play finals.

Allen hates Perth with a passion! fact!

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cats 4 life  
Years ago

what did you want Knight to do? walk away and have a free drive? please

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One report said one ref was stood down over a few bad calls, another report said that all refs were stood down, although they only listed the Beal foul as one example. I don't think we will get the full story from the NBL on this.

The refs didn't cause the Cats to lose but if refs are making lots of errors then I see no issue with them being stood down for a week. Receiving no punishment doesn't make them learn anything.

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koberulz  
Years ago

On the other hand, the Beal call was a correct no-call.

I'm far more interested in the clock.

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Maybe that was another thing, although I didn't see any protests at the time so not sure the refs can discuss a timing issue if they aren't aware of it.

If it is the Beal call, obviously the refereeing crew have decided it wasn't the correct no call.

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snooch  
Years ago

If there's been the level of debate about that one call, even after everyone has had the benefit of watching replays, then it's obviously not an absolute howler worthy of standing a ref/refs down over.
If a ref has an absolute stinker of a game, making obvious blunders throughout then maybe, but on that call? Not for mine.

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No doubt bad calls happened all game and had no impact on the result but there were a couple more in the final minutes that stood out more to me. The Goulding flop was one, and there was another where Goulding was awarded two FTs when he wasn't in the act of shooting (United weren't in the bonus either). But without any official word from the league, this is all guesswork.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Interesting stuff.
I could see an official being stood down for an accumulation of dodgy calls, or for black/white type errors, but surely not for a single interpretation call.
Home court is a valuable thing, and the effect of the crowd on players & refs is a big reason for that. Human nature and all that...

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Camel 31  
Years ago

I know Jawai looks like he wants to kill you, but too many calls 'cause he's big.

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fan  
Years ago

Wow.. Are you sure the refs aren't being called into question over the non calls throughout the game? Perth were very physical at times.

Which leads me to the question, why do the referees allow so much contact on the screener in ball screen situations? Pushing the screener so hard that they almost fall over is a foul everywhere else in the world so why isn't it here? I'm sure the Melbourne coach is wondering as well?

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natwhereyouat  
Years ago

Do I expect Knight to lay down and let Holt lay it in? What did you expect Majok to just let Beal lay it in? Come on.

I'd say good no call on both plays. Let the men play in the final minutes (within reason).

In saying that - I do believes refs should be under the microscope more when it comes to bad calls and im all for refs being stood down for a game or two etc for consistent bad performances/trends with certain teams.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's probably like when WWE suspend their talent for a chair shot. Everyone with a brain knows it's scripted except a few of the slower fans.

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snooch  
Years ago

Serious question because I don't know, but do we actually have enough quality refs in Australia to start dropping them for games as disciplinary measures???

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Anonymous  
Years ago

guess the league head office didn't agree with paul about it being a clear no call hey

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koberulz  
Years ago

Notice that the article says the ref/refs was/were stood down, and that they waved off the foul, but never actually says there's a connection.

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fstos  
Years ago

"It's probably like when WWE suspend their talent for a chair shot. Everyone with a brain knows it's scripted except a few of the slower fans."

Aren't they all...you know...slower.

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tiko  
Years ago

Even blind freddy could see it was a foul

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So what happened to an NBL announcement?

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sagemania  
Years ago

lisch might be getting ready to put forward a special game.

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Jumpshot  
Years ago

And how many uncalled fouls have been committed by Perth in the past against other teams?

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KET  
Years ago

fstos hahaha I was thinking that too :P

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Dazz  
Years ago

I don't think a ref gets stood down over one marginal non-call.
One of the anons keeps going on about a ref "celebrating with the cheerleaders" is there any truth to that? The NBL MIGHT think something like that was improper conduct from a ref?

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Who said the ref was celebrating with the cheerleaders?

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Nathan of Perth  
Years ago

I dunno, I reckon if Melbourne's cheerleaders wanted to celebrate with me, that'd be worth sitting a game or two :D

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paul  
Years ago

"Interesting stuff.
I could see an official being stood down for an accumulation of dodgy calls, or for black/white type errors, but surely not for a single interpretation call."

This.

The call in question has been called both ways in the NBL for a number of years, so it's hardly one that screams incompetence either way. It's more one where the refs boss would send video out saying he wants that called one way or the other.

If a ref has been actually stood down (Chris Clark, Michael Aylen or Chris Reid) we'll see this week when the crews roll out.

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