Train
Two years ago

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Official stood down after Cats v United match

"The Weekend West understands the officials from that match, who waved off a potential foul against Jermaine Beal in the final play of the game, have been temporarily stood down because of their performance"

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/29959657/wildcats-must-bounce-back-to-keep-in-touch/

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Kobe24
Two years ago
14:10 31 Oct 15

Reply #560100

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

3 refs, 1 stood down, surely the other 2 could've made the call. How many times do you see the ref out of place make the call. Perth fans will have a field day wit this one though smh.


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Train
Two years ago
14:15 31 Oct 15

Reply #560102

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

It looks like a bit of an unconfirmed report IMO.
The ref might have made a "bad call" against the Cats but the reality is the bad calls went both ways.


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
14:20 31 Oct 15

Reply #560103

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

LOL, and people on here saying it wasnt a foul.

These refs were to busy cheer leading with the rest of the crowd.

No doubt they got caught up with the crowd after Holts basket.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
14:27 31 Oct 15

Reply #560104

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

And here is the first to react... its sport. Trust me, it feels a lot worse when you FEEL your team got screwed in a final ala Mee and Lowry. Train said it, bad calls both ways, and that is pretty much every game in every sport. Humans make errors, and also get a lot of 50-50 calls correct!


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
14:49 31 Oct 15

Reply #560106

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

The ref got it wrong OK, but the Cats should look at their inability to block out Majok and shooting 21% from downtown.


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snooch
Two years ago
14:56 31 Oct 15

Reply #560107

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

I wouldn't read too much into an unconfirmed report out of WA. "Officials" - as in all of them, over one call?
If it's true, that's a joke. You don't stand refs down over something like that.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:59 31 Oct 15

Reply #560108

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

Were there any issues with Holt not getting the and 1 on his late game drive?


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Train
Two years ago
15:01 31 Oct 15

Reply #560109

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

Keep in mind its a "West Australian" news article. Home town bias and reporting is expected and justifiable :P


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natwhereyouat
Two years ago
15:04 31 Oct 15

Reply #560110

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

Not sure if it's true or not.. And IMO it wasn't a foul. If that was a foul then the play before hand, Holt should have got an and one.


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cats 4 life
Two years ago
15:04 31 Oct 15

Reply #560111

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

bout time! not just that game, should be looked at for every game! that's how they will learn!

some games like that decide a coaches job or a teams chance to play finals.

Allen hates Perth with a passion! fact!


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cats 4 life
Two years ago
15:16 31 Oct 15

Reply #560112

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

what did you want Knight to do? walk away and have a free drive? please


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
15:39 31 Oct 15

Reply #560113

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

One report said one ref was stood down over a few bad calls, another report said that all refs were stood down, although they only listed the Beal foul as one example. I don't think we will get the full story from the NBL on this.

The refs didn't cause the Cats to lose but if refs are making lots of errors then I see no issue with them being stood down for a week. Receiving no punishment doesn't make them learn anything.


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koberulz
Two years ago
15:44 31 Oct 15

Reply #560114

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

On the other hand, the Beal call was a correct no-call.

I'm far more interested in the clock.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
15:54 31 Oct 15

Reply #560115

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

Maybe that was another thing, although I didn't see any protests at the time so not sure the refs can discuss a timing issue if they aren't aware of it.

If it is the Beal call, obviously the refereeing crew have decided it wasn't the correct no call.


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snooch
Two years ago
15:57 31 Oct 15

Reply #560118

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

If there's been the level of debate about that one call, even after everyone has had the benefit of watching replays, then it's obviously not an absolute howler worthy of standing a ref/refs down over.
If a ref has an absolute stinker of a game, making obvious blunders throughout then maybe, but on that call? Not for mine.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
16:02 31 Oct 15

Reply #560119

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

No doubt bad calls happened all game and had no impact on the result but there were a couple more in the final minutes that stood out more to me. The Goulding flop was one, and there was another where Goulding was awarded two FTs when he wasn't in the act of shooting (United weren't in the bonus either). But without any official word from the league, this is all guesswork.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
16:23 31 Oct 15

Reply #560120

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

Interesting stuff.
I could see an official being stood down for an accumulation of dodgy calls, or for black/white type errors, but surely not for a single interpretation call.
Home court is a valuable thing, and the effect of the crowd on players & refs is a big reason for that. Human nature and all that...


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Camel 31
Two years ago
16:33 31 Oct 15

Reply #560121

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

I know Jawai looks like he wants to kill you, but too many calls 'cause he's big.


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fan
Two years ago
16:36 31 Oct 15

Reply #560122

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

Wow.. Are you sure the refs aren't being called into question over the non calls throughout the game? Perth were very physical at times.

Which leads me to the question, why do the referees allow so much contact on the screener in ball screen situations? Pushing the screener so hard that they almost fall over is a foul everywhere else in the world so why isn't it here? I'm sure the Melbourne coach is wondering as well?


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natwhereyouat
Two years ago
17:37 31 Oct 15

Reply #560134

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

Do I expect Knight to lay down and let Holt lay it in? What did you expect Majok to just let Beal lay it in? Come on.

I'd say good no call on both plays. Let the men play in the final minutes (within reason).

In saying that - I do believes refs should be under the microscope more when it comes to bad calls and im all for refs being stood down for a game or two etc for consistent bad performances/trends with certain teams.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:38 31 Oct 15

Reply #560136

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

It's probably like when WWE suspend their talent for a chair shot. Everyone with a brain knows it's scripted except a few of the slower fans.


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snooch
Two years ago
17:54 31 Oct 15

Reply #560137

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

Serious question because I don't know, but do we actually have enough quality refs in Australia to start dropping them for games as disciplinary measures???


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:36 31 Oct 15

Reply #560140

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

guess the league head office didn't agree with paul about it being a clear no call hey


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koberulz
Two years ago
18:42 31 Oct 15

Reply #560142

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

Notice that the article says the ref/refs was/were stood down, and that they waved off the foul, but never actually says there's a connection.


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fstos
Two years ago
18:52 31 Oct 15

Reply #560144

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

"It's probably like when WWE suspend their talent for a chair shot. Everyone with a brain knows it's scripted except a few of the slower fans."

Aren't they all...you know...slower.


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tiko
Two years ago
19:59 31 Oct 15

Reply #560164

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

Even blind freddy could see it was a foul


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:22 31 Oct 15

Reply #560228

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

So what happened to an NBL announcement?


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sagemania
Two years ago
21:39 31 Oct 15

Reply #560245

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

lisch might be getting ready to put forward a special game.


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Jumpshot
Two years ago
23:26 31 Oct 15

Reply #560325

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

And how many uncalled fouls have been committed by Perth in the past against other teams?


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KET
Two years ago
09:43 1 Nov 15

Reply #560347

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

fstos hahaha I was thinking that too :P


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Dazz
Two years ago
17:18 2 Nov 15

Reply #560633

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

I don't think a ref gets stood down over one marginal non-call.
One of the anons keeps going on about a ref "celebrating with the cheerleaders" is there any truth to that? The NBL MIGHT think something like that was improper conduct from a ref?


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
17:20 2 Nov 15

Reply #560634

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

Who said the ref was celebrating with the cheerleaders?


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Nathan of Perth
Two years ago
17:38 2 Nov 15

Reply #560644

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

I dunno, I reckon if Melbourne's cheerleaders wanted to celebrate with me, that'd be worth sitting a game or two :D


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paul
Two years ago
17:47 2 Nov 15

Reply #560645

re: Official stood down after Cats v United match

"Interesting stuff.
I could see an official being stood down for an accumulation of dodgy calls, or for black/white type errors, but surely not for a single interpretation call."

This.

The call in question has been called both ways in the NBL for a number of years, so it's hardly one that screams incompetence either way. It's more one where the refs boss would send video out saying he wants that called one way or the other.

If a ref has been actually stood down (Chris Clark, Michael Aylen or Chris Reid) we'll see this week when the crews roll out.


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