Sixers in a close one,

Suprised they haven't done any ticketing deals because if you look at the Ticketmaster map of available seats its gonna be a very low crowd

Wildcats by plenty.

36ers are pure shit. Making up the numbers at best.

You just cant bet decent money on the 36ers they have no consistency about them at all. Im looking forward to this one, but have no idea how the 36ers will play. Heart says 6ers but every other part of me says Cats will grind it out.

36ers will miss Creek tonight. However I think if they can make it up tempo and put the pressure on the Perth guards they can win. Hodgson will be crucial tonight against the Perth bigs and Ebi needs to step up without Creek. Will be a close one imo

If they utilise Hodgson and Carlin to be DJ and Peaches help then maybe..But DJ can't do it all on his own..

Kenny coming into this game under an injury cloud.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/30116562/jawai-faces-ban-kenny-waits-on-shoulder/

Could get ugly for Perth if his effectiveness is reduced at either end.

"Gibbo needs to play both ends to ensure his opponent has to play both ends."

I don't think Gibson is even playing?

gibbo is a game day decision kingjames...

Creek definitely out... and peach under a bit of a cloud too...

with it expected to be a top of 39 in lil ol RADeladie i hope they have had the air con on all day...

ill be there

mid week game always going to be a low crowd...

nature of the beast...

i think it will be close one too...

so long as it is abit more entertaining than the crocs game which i found 'flat' and spent most of the second half clock watching to see how long i had to endure it for...

anyways

i am looking forward to tonights game was a good game last time they met!

Tipping Adelaide by 11.

Just have this sense they will play run and gun and exploit Perth in transition.

Dogga, you say no ticket deals? 2-for-1 ticket deal online.

I'm with Macdub on this one

Gibbo is playing

Finally the Sixers and Cats have something in common, they've both got players who have been conked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufDTDUPZrag

@anon Gibbo didn't play against Crocs. Nice sledge effort though

Is jawaii playing this game, I heard he had a back injury through the week?

Hoping Randle can take advantage of no damo and possibly Kenny to help us over the line. Big game for Ere, if Hodgson can also provide some quality minutes that'd be great also - really impressive this year considering he's our 9th/10th man.

Re ticket specials, they've been doing lots of it lately. Also, members price for the restaurant buffet is $25 for adults - try eating out with oysters for that price!

I haven't seen any updates on Jawai's back since it was mentioned on Monday that he had to leave training.

Back spasms seem to be very much day-to-day propositions so I'm guessing it will be a late call on that one. Hopefully he's good to go.

Yeah, that can often be a case of how it feels in the warm-up and then through the game. He hasn't been playing as much late in games recently, with Jervis saved early in the game and playing more later. I don't know if that's just how it's played out if that's been a plan?

Just bumped into big Nate out on the street, heck of a nice bloke. He'll be playing.

did you know it was him because he hit you from behind?

"He'll be playing."

How do you know? Can you read minds too??? /s

I think up until now the plan has been very much based around taking whatever we can get from Nate. Since his rough start he has looked good, and we look a different team when he's in the floor - as in one that is actually capable of scoring some points.

Recently Tom has stepped up, but even in that Hawks game where Tom was instrumental in our comeback and Nate was average, he was still brought in for Tom in the last few minutes, so I think that tells you what Gleeson's mindset has been when it comes to Jawai.

Tom was excellent in both games last round though, so Gleeson now has some real options. Not a bad conundrum to have, trying to find minutes for 2 good centres.

It works so well having Jervis in fresh late in the game, he has energy that oppo centres can't match.

I know he will be playing Chalmers

and yes I can read minds. for instance you are thinking about how to be more irritating by posting stupid and dumb comments on an internet forum

Well said FYI. Apparently speaking directly with the source isnt reliable enough....

It was a fucking joke about the idiot in other threads accusing people of being mind-readers while doing the same himself. The /s at the end of my comment was also a give away that I was joking.

I'll highlight a joke even more for you next time so you can avoid looking even stupider. Not sure what the Y means but I can guess what the F & I stand for.

oh the old i was joking defence

What do you think "/s" means, dickhead?

Sorry, I should have known that "Jawai is fat and eats maccas hur hur" is as intelligent as it gets for you.

name calling gets you no where

If the shoe fits...

you must have a very extensive shoe closet

You guy finished your Childish Bullshit yet? It's like weve got the Special school kids in lately.

I stopped posting on here years ago because every time i did, some negative keyboard warrior would go off. My first comment back and more of the same...

How about we all put on the big boy pants and stick to talking hoops, that's why we're here right?

Frogman, I apologise, I was just making a joke based on an earlier comment in another thread. I wasn't a having a dig.

All good mate.

Would you children just shut up and quit being so ridiculous.

Anon, $1.90 you're almost doubling your money for what you claim to be a very likely win. Either you're overstating your claim or not willing to put your money where your mouth is.

Reminder that this one is on the NBL's new home:
Fox Sports 3

Agree Isaac. Anyone who feels like a game is a sure thing when it's roughly even money being offered shouldn't be complaining, they should be making themselves some easy money.

Me, I'm not touching this one. Way too many unknowns for my liking. 50/50 or thereabouts seems fair IMO.

I think Adelaide may get up for this especially, if they run and gun.
Mitch Creeks defence and ability to finish at the rim even with some contact will be sorely missed.

The flip side is Perth may respond to their loss to the Breakers last round by coming out and kicking the Sixers ass.

Unders is the play, gents

'239, Chalmers is the Urkel of trolls, but I would've put FYI as equally responsible for this thread derailing. Like little forum toddlers.


Luuuc, exactly. When you look at the odds and don't want to touch it, they've probably got it right. That said, if it's not appealing to someone (anon thinking a Wildcats win is a surety) then the bookie makes nothing because everyone sits it out.

Another example is Melbourne vs Townsville with Conklin out. The United win odds are very short as you'd expect, so you check the line. -13.5 last I checked - starting to get risky. At -9 I'd take it.

Im just glad I get to go to a game, its felt like ages since Ive walked to the Arena.

Are we planning on playing defence tonight?

Wow, the Sixers really don't know much about defence.

Anyone have a score update?

FUCKING DEFEND PRATHER FFS!!!!

Obviously those nets in Adelaide are an eyesore on purpose

Wtf was that DJ?

That's on DJ for putting his hands on the ball when it was right in front of the basket. Absolutely no need for him to touch it.

It's been reversed anyway.

Live stats
http://www.nbl.com.au/livestats/?matchid=139041&page=strip

Why do we reward sticking out the leg on a jump shot?

In all seriousness what does Greg Hire provide for the Wildcats now? Such a liability.

I told you guys the issue is joey's D not ebi. Horrible strategist.


But Ebi doesn't play a lick of D either...

Nice boxing out Sixers! Oh dear...

Letting Wagstaff have that tip in is UNFORGIVABLE.

The reason for the loss.

The Wildcats, one of the lowers scoring teams in the league and one of the lower field goal shooting teams, scoring 94 points @ 56%.

Wow. One bucket in the twelve offences from 6:46 to go to 0:15 to go ....

Well if the Sixers want to resurrect their season now is the time to pull the trigger on Ere. Play him Saturday night then say goodbye. Get someone here in time for Perth on 4/12.

Nine points, three turnovers, four fouls in 20 minutes - just not getting it done.

He's not their only problem by a long shot, but he's the one that can be rectified immediately.
I was all for giving him time but he hasn't improved. Time to be brutal.

Giving up 88 tonight and a whole lot to the Hawks and the Breakers suggests Perth defence is not great without Martin at the minute

Highlight - seeing Joey throw his jacket into the crowd.

Lowlight - hearing the guy in front of me hurl racial slurs at Jawai. Surely in 2015 we're better than that.

Ebi is not the problem, team defence is.

He had been improving until this game, let it slide.

Ebi had less minutes than Teys, yet scored more.

DJ had a bad game, so did Teys, don't keep blaming Ebi.

Take positives from the game, Gibbo is back, and Hodgson is improving.

The Sixers to win next game against the Hawks.

There is a lot to like for the 6ers. Their offence flowed well all game and the Randle and Gibson backcourt is as good as any in the league.

Hodgson is a huge positive and Sobey is a great find. Against most other teams the way they played tonight they would have won. A stark contrast in performance from the Kings game.

Ebi's handling errors at the very start and very end of the game were just.... ugh.

Marcus, imports are expected to perform. Plain and simple. And they're the only expendable players on a team's roster because genuine available Aussie talent is hard to come by. Good overseas players are dime-a-dozen. So what if the likes of DJ, Teys etc. had bad games... Ere is meant to perform. If you guys had a stud, or even if you literally threw a dart at a board of American 2-3s who could shoot the three, they would 1) be better than Ere, and 2) be another guy to rely on if other players don't produce. You can't even rely on a 'decent' game from Ebi, he's past it.

You know you have a weak argument when you're saying Teys had a bad game... he's not expected to produce! You're just picking different players on the roster at this point. Oh look, Sobey only got six points tonight, that's the reason you lost!

If your comments about Ebi aren't a troll then I'd love to have your outlook on life my man. Glass half full always. Kudos to you my friend

If there was racial abuse being hurled at Jawai, that's disgraceful.

This team will not compete for playoffs unless another change is made. Ebi isn't getting it done consistently and can be replaced - the other guys can't be. And Ebi's defence is as bad as anyone's, he can't keep anyone in front of him.

^ tl;dr... a team has a group of guys that are expected to go out and get the job done. For the Sixers it's Randle, Gibson, Johnson, Petrie and Ere. Ere is just not doing it. Making things worse, he's an import. Cut him, Sixers, if you have any dollars and sense.

BJ is available - he was besting it up before his achilles. Should we bring him back in ??? More Hodgson and Carlin Please..

With that racist dude... frogman, you should've manned up and notified security. If there were people within earshot of him (obviously there would've been), then they could back your claim and get the guy ejected and charged by police. Seriously, it's that big a deal. That kind of thing is just not right

Where are you Sixers147? Hope your having a great evening if it isn't past your bed time.

That is, if you didn't already notify security, frogman*

Mitch creek is a vital player for adelaide we missed his hustle tonight. We will get perth in perth when at full strength

Johnson's turnovers at the end of the third quarter and again at the end of the last quarter really hurt. The Sixers scored when they ran an offence, passed the ball around to get someone free, which dried up in the last five minutes of the last quarter, hence the lack of scoring, mentioned above. His shot selection isnt the best either. He is the sentre but keeps on putting up three pointers when there is no rebounder.

So frustrating to see games thrown away the same way time and time again.

One thing I did notice was that there isnt as much switching on defence for switching sake. Defenders are actually trying to get around screens. Not all doom and gloom.

The jacket throwing was the biggest highlight of the night.

Daniel Johnson jut a complete liability tonight. Perth were very smart either going at him in the post or the player coming off DJ's man's screen time and time again and they got the rewards.

"We will get perth in perth when at full strength"

Sorry...we will not get in if we allow 94 points @ 56% FG%.

That first half defence was beyond poor. When you consider what we lost by its just incredible.

Is calling Jawai a thug racist?

If the refs called the fouls by Jawai the same as almost any other player in the league he wouldn't last till half time.

I think the refs took the $1.90 on offer for the wildcats.

@Touch the rim

Yes, imports are expected to perform, but to differing degrees.

On a team with such a strong Australian contingent like the Sixers, Ebi could still be a contributor without being a top 2 or even top 3 scorer.

I have never suggested that Ebi's performances are great, in fact I have been clear that I can see much room for improvement, in particular scoring efficiency. Overall Ebi is improving from the start of the year and I have seen enough promising signs to keep him.

I think its unfair to focus on Ebi, when there are far more pressing issues to consider read:team defence.

Racism has no place on the Brett Maher court.

Do the right thing, make it your business to stamp it out. The crowd will support you and the club will be better for it

@Ushiro

Any other game I would happily put money on DJ knocking down 3's.

Walker injured himself, that's why he went off not to return.

If Ebi's defence is so crap why does he lead the Sixers in steals?

Again....not saying Ebi is perfect, but his improvement and being a great presence in the locker-room and having the trust of Coach Joey warrants some grace.

Walker did come back on.. He got an elbow to the chest. If it was a nipple that would hurt...

@Titfortat

Walker did return, got a steal, a nice drive, a couple of nice rebounds in the 4th.

Maybe in this one game, it may have been more prudent to leave Walker on instead of Ebi.

Ohhhh boy Ebi Ebi Ebi, couldnt guard a corpse. Cant make a shot, not what the 36ers need in his import spot. The team defense is horrible especially in the first half, but he was lost so many times trying to guard various Cats. Got to go, its laughable at this point, Joey wouldve cut any other import producing what he is. Guess that friendship is too important to him.

Haha #350, yeah splash city in the first half, but 71 points were scored in the second half. Was sheer wizardry in that first 20 mins. Pace slowed, everything slowed, and I just assumed they would play like that for the full 40

DJ has been stinking the last few weeks too. He can't cope with being the box and rebound centre for a whole game he sucks at it and he can't perform offensively when he's been posted and pounded on the boards. He's handling and offence is below his norm for sure.

@ Anon'347

"Marcus Camby, who was responsible for Prather & Redhage lighting up the first half - (predominantly) your man Ebi."

So what you are saying is there is no help defence in this team.

Thank you.

Thank you for illustrating what I have been saying all along.

Ebi is the fourth-highest scorer on the team, cannot defend, is shooting FGs at 37 per cent and 3s at 33 per cent. And the looks he gets are actually really good on the whole.

The dude's paid to score, yet he doesn't even have a better PPG than Mr Once-A-Fortnight Adam Gibson

Both of Ebi's FG and 3pt percentages are actually 35, while Gibbo's are 43 and 39 respectively.

Get literally anyone in place of Ebi and the Sixers would be better off. There are so many to choose from in the NBA D-League alone. There's a kid Kelsey Barlow who I really like the look of. Reckon a lot of eager young Americans would jump at the chance to play some ball in a foreign, yet familiar country for 3-3.5 months and get their name out there

35% from three is good. His field goal numbers overall are meaningless without knowing how many are threes.

That one he bricked off the side of the backboard tonight made him look pretty awful, though.

Yeah 35 is good, hence why it's wrong. It's actually 20-63, 31.7 per cent over 11 games. Not so great

Let's not forget that ebi was brought in a the primary import. I assume his role was to be an instant offense type player coming off screens on the wings and using his good jump shot.

Have we ever seen two coaches who constantly whine at the refs, both of them need to focus on the stupid errors there teams are making, rather than the refs.

Gleeson needs to work on our in bounds passing after a bucket by the other team. We seem to struggle getting it in after a score, teams who can play a decent full court press will make it tough for the Wildcats, i mean last night Matt Knight at one stage was bringing the ball up, that is asking for trouble.

Yes Joey has to do a lot of work on our defence but least got a lot better in 2 nd half , yes I know could not got worse.
Now that work in progress and can only hope Joey up to improving it or only playing players that can provide some resemblance of defence.
But only 1 decision is going to get close to saving this season is replacing Ere as his defence well really doesn't even offer any .
Any player at 35 is really over the hill and only the real super stars last ,but they don't turn up for a season way out of condition like Ere has.
And no not getting better even Marcus not even trying to say that and now can see struggling to continue to defend him.
Really some of his stuff ups remind me of some of our bad no 10 players like Jason Williams etc not a highly paid import.
And even though setting him up with open shots he can't get anything like decent score.
If Joey won't do it then come on owners put some pressure on as with no scoreboard etc you need some positives like Randell to happen.

So Camby you're going to deliberately ignore the fact Ebi can't keep anyone in front of him defensively, constantly gets lost on rotations and just blame a lack of help defence? If he could actually do his job defensively he wouldn't have to rely on others to constantly bail him out.

Another game there to be won, with no one standing up in the last 5 minutes to make it happen. Disappointing.

No need to reply to to Camby directly he is a troll that just likes ruffling the feathers but hides it well because he doesnt name call get emotional etc

We all know the team we currently have, although with some very handy players on it, wont win these type of games too often. Ebi was a bad call to start with, seemed like either a favour for a mate, or lazy recruiting or both.

Koberulz you think he was brought here to bench warm, of course he was brought in to produce a lot, like he always did.... 10 years ago. They too the punt on him and he rocked up out of shape and unable to play defence. Its not his fault for taking the pay check, its the clubs issue.

Something has to change, to kickstart the season, the defence, the wins column and the morale. Imports usually get the flick when things go wrong, Randle isnt going anywhere, so who is left....

I don't think Joey would give a mate a job if it was going to cost his team a finals spot.

Joey would always be looking out for wo else is available to come in and strength the team if possible.
Last year he pulled Brock Motum out of the air, he's already done the same with Randle this year and Im sure he's stil looking.
Joey is a professional and likes to win. He might make mistakes ( as we al do) but he will kleep trying to win.

Agreed Swish - I know Joey doesn't like to lose especially and isn't used to it (Only missed the playoffs once at NBL Level).

Well hopefully he corrects another mistake.

With the new Wilson deal I think that guys like Danny Granger or Carter Martin aren't that far off the mark. We need another offensive weapon and those guys would definitely be that for us. And btw we haven't passed the deadline for imports to get their full salary if they are cut.

Johnson / Hodgson
Granger / Petrie
Creek / Walker
Gibson / Teys
Randle / Sobey

That's a contender and stacks up well against every other team, including United

Win both away against Adelaide, win both away against Hawks, lose a close one away to United that got a ref stood down, lose a tough one away to NZ with a big 4th quarter comeback.

Lose two to Townsville.

Seriously, Wildcats, wtf.

Ere... Hahaha. Sigh.

Team defence is essential to winning games. Teams are rarely blessed with 5 brilliant individual defenders so team mates have to help.

Prather is a quick slashing player, yes he is faster than Ebi, thats why you need help D, you are never going to have a situation where every defender is better than his man.

Randle blew past Kenny with ease, does that make Kenny a bad defender? If teams didn't do Help D, Randle will be scoring 30+ a game. The Wildcats bigs had to come cover for Kenny when he got beaten, sometimes Randle scored, sometimes it forced Randle to pass it off as he ran out of space.

Off the screen Perth bigs know how to help. Case in point...Knight shows on the screen in the 4th, knows Randle has a penchant for splitting the D, closes the gap, gets the steal for the breakaway.

Again...I am not saying Ebi is perfect, I have said often there is room for improvement. However, when discussing how the TEAM can improve, it must start with Defence first. Even if you got a better defender in than Ebi, you STILL have defensive holes like DJ in the middle or Randle exposed. This is why Team defence is more important than one player.