Southern Joe
Years ago

NCAA Elligibilty Ruling needed

If a 15 yr old plays in a 3 on 3 tourney that offers prize money.. does that affect amateur status in the eyes of the NCAA?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Depends on the amount of money to some extent? Will it just cover expenses or is it a ridiculous amount?

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LC  
Years ago

Direct from the NCAA Eligibility Center...

The following activities may impact your amateur status:

• Signing a contract with a professional team.
• Playing with professionals.
• Participating in tryouts or practices with a professional team.
• Accepting payments or preferential benefits for playing sports.
• Accepting prize money above your expenses.
• Accepting benefits from an agent or prospective agent.
• Agreeing to be represented by an agent.
• Delaying your full-time college enrollment to play in organized sports competitions.

http://web3.ncaa.org/ECWR2/NCAA_EMS/NCAA.jsp

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Southern Joe  
Years ago

The prizemoney is $400 ( works out $100 per player).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Then it could be argued the prize money was used to by gear for the tournament.

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ColCon  
Years ago

I think there are two issues that you should consider here:

1. Is the prize money allowable under the NCAA rules
2. Even if it is, should you accept it?

If the kid has any aspirations for a College gig in the future then amateur status is something that needs to be taken seriously because the NCAA take it very seriously and the consequences of infractions can be the end of College sport and education.

That said, my read of the rules indicates to me that as long as the $100 is not in excess of "actual and necessary expenses" then it is ok. The NCAA is quite specific about "actual and necessary expenses" which includes meals, lodgings, apparel/equipment, transportation, medical treatment, entry fees & other reasonable expenses (??). Totally up to you, but you could accept the prize and also get $100 of receipts/other docs for the aforementioned items and file them away to be on the safe side. The expenses can only be for the player (no parents etc expenses).

My second thought is that when the kid gets to College he will have to sign off on his athletic history and amateur status which includes questions on whether he has accepted prize money and he will have to tick that box. This will most likely be followed up on by the Colleges compliance people and/or the NCAA and may bring unwanted focus and further information having to be supplied. It can be quite a hassle to provide the detail they need (I have known of a D1 player being randomly audited by the NCAA and there was quite a deal of work required - all good in the end but who needs it?). Again your call but is the risk of that worth $100??
Hope this helps and well done to him (or her?) on the win (future win??)

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Insider  
Years ago

DONT DO IT

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Southern Joe  
Years ago

Would it be unusual that a rep club runs this tournament most school holidays under this format.. given that they have had players graduate from their rep program to rather decent colleges in the USA?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Plenty of aussies have played in SEABL programs without it affecting their eligibility. Prize money, dunno
At the end of the day if their is any chance of it causing a problem for $400 why would you even bother. JUst sayin

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Plenty of players in the USA college system in very high level colleges that have come via Europe( where they all get given prize money if they win tournaments) plus ones who have played with professional players, same as those who go to college and have p,ayed/ trained with the likes of SEABL/NBL/WNBL.
They understand the system is different than the American one, and so long as your p,Ayer contrac ckearly states amateur, and no wages are paid its fine. As for prize money, if the money is going to a team effort it's not classed as individual payment.
And unless it's a major tournament I doubt very much NCAA would even hear about it.

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Jay  
Years ago

I coached NCAA they will be fine to play. Prize money is not excessive. And as long as they pay their own entry fee.

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Duke Fan  
Years ago

The 100 bucks won't hinder your kid's chances, but I hope their spelling is better than yours or the SAT's could be an issue :)

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Southern Joe  
Years ago

Apart from a deliberate shortening of the word "tourney" what spelling mistakes have I made... just asking?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

duke fan.......seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!.....have you seen where the USA sit on literacy scale for spelling mate LOL.....when the kids get there they basically redo yr10 anyway............

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Duke Fan  
Years ago

Joe? "eligibility"

And yes anonymous...I agree. But the SAT's have to be done here before they go and I've seen a couple of kids trip up on them. Not saying Seppos are smart :)

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Southern Joe  
Years ago

That's more my shit typing than a spelling error. I'm generally very good at spelling and my grammar is usually above par.

So if that's all you have to hang your hat on .... well ....

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Bear  
Years ago

I generally blame my typo's on fat finmger syndrome...

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Bear  
Years ago

...finger...

See what I mean :)

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Insider  
Years ago

SAT's are harder than the ACT'S especially if you don't like grammar and math ;)

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Duke Fan  
Years ago

Geez Joe. Should I have used more smiley faces to signify I was messing around. Next time let us know when you're posting will menstruating

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Southern Joe  
Years ago

Maybe, Duke fan.

I took your post on face value.

All good under the hood. ;)

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