No. No. And still no.

Why would we want him to turn stallions into plodding work-horses?

Definitely NO.

Why would a team stacked with talent want a quality coach who could actually translate that into wins?

Trust the process

Goorj likes sending teams bankrupt...

Titans, Dragons, Kings... United?

He has some bad joojoo, maybe China got rid of the curse

Actually it's Spectres, Magic, Titans, Kings, Dragons all gone under Goorjian. United would be off going for someone like Shawn Dennis or even Ian Stacker.

Boti was running with the Goorj to MU rumour last year too and then they signed DD to replace D-Mac so I'll believe it when it happens.

Theory #2 is United chief executive Vince Crivelli was behind hiring Demopoulos, and to sack him is to admit he got it wrong.

I don't think you understand the concept of bad joojoo

"Interestingly I also head to day about a push to get rid of Cairns and bring in China and the Philippines. Brisbane struggling with crowds and the chestnut of LK pulling out after year 3. It was suggested he was going to invest %7+ mill into the NBL. That figure now is meant to be $50mill+
The new NBL would represent all states not sure about territories of Australia. 1 team"

How can you say that Brisbane is struggling with crowds?

They sellout every game and from what I can see, the interest is quite high.

Are you saying LK will pull out after next season? (Year 3)

Very much doubt LK pulls out after 3 seasons

and that's why you're not a multi millionaire.....

"and that's why you're not a multi millionaire....."

GOLD

Best come back to the 12 year old anons

Playing in smaller stadiums mean they would make a profit with those 'smaller' numbers. Attendance would only make up a certain % of a clubs revenue.

Brisbane has its uniform full with sponsorship so good signs there. Merch has also been selling well judging by the massive lines each week. Disappointing there is no online store still.

Don't be surprised if an "International" investor buys all or part of LK's share in the NBL within the next 2 seasons.

Starting with the 36ers? Or is it a different investor?

Almost every single NBL club has either folded or needed bailing out at some point (Adelaide, Cairns, Illawarra, etc). Goorjian's coached for a long time so chances are he's been involved with a few.

I'd hire him.

There is an end game with the ties currently being built with China.

- Chinese teams playing in pre-season competition
- Games being telecast into China
- Major sponsors have links/strategies of expanding into China
- Chinese players(s) being signed as development players
- Discussions ongoing for Chinese team to play in NBL perm.

Clear strategy here involving China and I am not sure if it is in the best long term interests of the game in Australia.

Sorry to hijack thread. Another topic for another thread.

Goorjian is the greatest coach in NBL history.

You can hardly call him the kiss of death. He was in Sydney during the Johnston firepower thing and Cowan bailed out of the Dragons- neither had much to do with Goorjian.

If they can get him, it's a huge win. Only issue is age. He's 63. But then again, Poppovich is 67...age is nothing but a number. Do it.

DD is 63 - Goorj is younger than him

(4 months younger)

Yeah, but I'm not suggesting we keep DD, either. Not at this stage.

If we miss the playoffs, then sacking DD is a no brainer. If we recover to play some good bball and then lose in the semis again, they will have an interesting decision. If we recover to make the GF or win the thing then DD will have done enough to earn another year.

A lot of the unpopular and anti-social style of play that people hate today was mastered by Goorj. I wonder if flopping and physical play will continue to be a blight on the game if/when he returns?

WTF? WTF!

I seriously doubt Goorjian had anything to do with flopping. He pushed for tough play from his squad and testing the limits, but that's entirely different and up to the refs to police.

Huh? His Kings teams were notorious for flopping. Wortho, Smith, Hinder and Kendall on one team...all part of the Flopping Hall of Fame!

and don't forget CJ Bruton!

Rumor I've herd is Dennis is off to Melbourne next year

As I see it, basketball in Australia is still trying to recover from Goorjian's cynical 'bash through' philosophy - if you hit and grab enough the refs will become 'conditioned' to it and stop calling it. In fact they stop 'seeing' it because it 'looks normal'.

Most definitely don't want to revisit that.

However, I have no idea if he still embraces this philosophy. Anyone know if his Chinese team is tarred with the same 'illegal physicality' brush?

As I see it, basketball in Australia is still trying to recover from Goorjian's cynical 'bash through' philosophy - if you hit and grab enough the refs will become 'conditioned' to it and stop calling it. In fact they stop 'seeing' it because it 'looks normal'.

Most definitely don't want to revisit that.

7 years later? Try 20!

It's ridiculous to blame Goorjian for the entire NBL's decline.

The refs were free to call it how they saw fit, and the NBL was at it's liberty to issue whatever interpretive instructions they wanted.

Goorjian might've pushed the boundaries, but he didn't make them.

I really enjoy seeing basketballers play defence and 'run their plays to perfection'.

What I don't like, in this context, is a coach who damages the game by cynically and consistently coaching intentional physical thuggery instead of defence.

Zodiac, yep the refs should have fouled out his players until he pulled his head in.

He was always known for his over-sized ego. The game was, and still is, bigger than him.

No to coaching in the NBL and an even stronger NO to him coaching the Boomers.

The one thing I clearly remember about Goorjian is his arrogance. Just lots of little things he would do, to show his contempt.
Disliked the guy, but that doesn't make him a bad coach.

The one thing Dazzling Dazz remembers about the greatest coach in NBL history isn't that, you know, he's a freaking great coach and his teams do really well every single year and play great D.

It's that he's arrogant. A special kind of person, that Dazz......

Imagine what Goorjian could have done with Someone like Damien Martin. He made scrubs like Parkinson and Lucas look like great defenders so if he had Damo I cant imagine how more great Damo could have been

Goorjian is a good coach - no doubt - but does the NBL want a coach back who does what Pop said? I agree, his sides got away with a ridiculous amount of illegal physicality that we don't want in this game. The question is, would the NBL and the refs be capable of calling the game properly if this occurs again or does it go back to the old days?

But who says Goorjian's coaching style hasn't changed?

Did you hear the CBA complaining about his coaching style in China? No.

I don't get this discussion, the sort of physicality that was introduced by a small number of teams, including Goorjians, in the 90s is the norm now. If he came back coaching you wouldn't bat an eyelid.

God forbid people have a discussion on a discussion board Anonymous. If you don't like it, take your own advice and don't go here?

I don't get this discussion

I don't understand this discussion at all. So we only want coaches in our league who coach a certain type of basketball? We only want a D'antoni type coach who promotes offence over defence rather than a Popovich style of defensive-first basketball???

I couldn't care less what style of basketball my team plays as long as it's a winning style.

There's nothing to say Goorj's style of coaching turned people away from the NBL. The non-basketball purists I know who just go to games casually don't really understand the nuances anyway - and as long as the games are close seem to leave pretty happy.

So we only want coaches in our league who coach a certain type of basketball?

I couldn't care less what style of basketball my team plays

The one thing Dazzling Dazz remembers about the greatest coach in NBL history isn't that, you know, he's a freaking great coach and his teams do really well every single year and play great D.

It's that he's arrogant. A special kind of person, that Dazz......

"Don't get me wrong, i'd like him to come back because he's a damn good coach, but I want the NBL and Reffing to get their act together."

This. People complain about Perth's physicality, but the two years the league called the game much tighter, 2010 and 2014, they won the title.

Call the game predictably and any good coach and team will adjust accordingly. Goorjian is no different.

"I think you probably do given you're on here enough to know the very recent discussion about 12 minute quarters"

I don't get that discussion either!