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Last year

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Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

I have just seen the draw for 2017 season and am surprised by the length of the season. It starts beginning of April, is 18 rounds and minor round finished by mid July. To handle that there are three Saturday games followed by Sunday games the next day.

In addition there is Anzac day which is pseudo double header round. The season was looking promising with some teams strengthening their rosters with two imports but taking the game to spectators and attracting sponsors seems to have been lost with that program. I am disappointed and was curious as to others opinions

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Anonymous
Last year
18:01 13 Dec 16

Reply #612844

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

Maybe point the finger at Basketball Adelaide and the clubs. The schedule was derived from their requests amongst other things for a condensed season.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:08 13 Dec 16

Reply #612864

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

You must be part of BSA to say that. When speaking to our President he said the clubs wanted a March start and avoid double headers where possible.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:10 13 Dec 16

Reply #612865

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

Yeah thats me BSA through and through. No just in the know.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:13 13 Dec 16

Reply #612866

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

And so am I!!! Another stuff up on communication


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Jack Toft
Last year
19:40 13 Dec 16

Reply #612869

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

The traditional season has been a 18 rounds. Each team plays the others once at home and once away.

I don't think too many clubs have an issue with a Sunday afternoon game. It's a chance for juniors to have a special training session in the morning, fundraising committee to throw on a sausage sizzle and then the juniors watch the big boys and girls.

Double headers are always a little hard to fathom what is trying to be achieved. Unless they are at the Dome, the "neutral" ground seems to be Wayville or Pasadena. I haven't seen the 2017 draw, but are the double headers at these stadiums?


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Anonymous
Last year
20:32 13 Dec 16

Reply #612872

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

You cant have double headers at a neutral venue when the season is 18 rounds, that would negate the home and away fixture being equal (9 home, 9 away).


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Jack Toft
Last year
20:42 13 Dec 16

Reply #612874

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

Anon,....... and that's the problem. Imagine a Sturt v Forestville & a Mavs v West double header at Pasadena. OK for Sturt, but Mavs miss out on a home game


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Anonymous
Last year
20:42 13 Dec 16

Reply #612875

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

They are at home venues.

Jack the issue is not "a" Sunday game but three plus Anzac days. There is only 14 Saturday night games.


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Jack Toft
Last year
21:00 13 Dec 16

Reply #612877

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

OK


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julias
Last year
22:15 13 Dec 16

Reply #612883

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

Where can the fixture be found?


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Anonymous
Last year
05:09 14 Dec 16

Reply #612897

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

As a player 18 games seems to short. Last few seasons have been much more enjoyable with the extra games and the whole competition playing games at one venue. A move away from this format feels like a step back for the league.


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Anonymous
Last year
07:14 14 Dec 16

Reply #612898

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

Anon above - as a player what do you think of the number of back to back games?


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Anonymous
Last year
07:20 14 Dec 16

Reply #612899

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

I have not seen this years draw, so I am not sure how many there are, but back to backs don't phase me nor should they anyone in the league! The average player age would be, what, 23?! So the physical side should be fine, potentially means you can't go out on the cans until Sunday night, but thats life.

Now I totally understand the admin side of back to backs, getting volunteers, court hire etc, but that should be up to the club/league to build to a position where these aren't issues. Do we want to become a top quality 2nd tier league, who attracts good imports and NBL players, therefor lifting the standard of ball, or are we happy to be just a run of the mill competition? To me it seems like BSA, Basketball Adelaide and the clubs are happy with the latter...


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Anonymous
Last year
12:24 14 Dec 16

Reply #612931

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

Back to back games dont appear to be an issue in any other 2nd tier league across the country. Why is it an issue in SA? Its not like you play back to back home games Saturday and Sunday. You still only have to find volunteers for 9 home games.


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hooperio
Last year
13:10 14 Dec 16

Reply #612941

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

was very disappointed with the way the redid the junior draws for the rest of summer as well


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Anonymous
Last year
15:29 14 Dec 16

Reply #612960

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

I would love to see crowds for Sunday games - Traditionally they are down so to me this is a step in the wrong direction in promoting the game to sponsors, spectators etc.

The issue is that some clubs can't even find volunteers now and often rely on volunteers from other clubs to help out. That simply means volunteers may need to double up which may not occur.

At least BSA has sorted out the U23 competition with a probing survey.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:40 14 Dec 16

Reply #612965

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

The clubs via Basketball Adelaide want a more condensed, shorter season so the finals are finished earlier than September (allowing for college kids presumably). To do that there must be double headers. You can't have one without the other. So when the tail wags the dog these things happen.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:00 14 Dec 16

Reply #612974

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

The clubs wanted to complete the season slightly earlier but also requested a March start and double headers to be avoided. Seems to be confusion or a misunderstanding between the two bodies. Perhaps if it was left to Basketball Adelaide there wouldn't be this confusion!!


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Anonymous
Last year
17:53 14 Dec 16

Reply #612980

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

Seems to me there already is a Peak body that is recognised by the national body and state authorities.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:06 14 Dec 16

Reply #613017

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

It doesn't mean a Peak body controls everything in minute detail if it can be handled better with a different structure.

Does this Peak body manage in detail country basketball - No

Does this Peak body manage in detail church basketball - No

Does this Peak body manage in detail all metropolitan domestic competitions - No

Does this Peak body need to manage in detail the Premier League - No


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Anonymous
Last year
23:04 14 Dec 16

Reply #613027

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

I actually really like the draw. Compact, none of the silly blockbusters, fair because it's H & A, double headers towards the middle & end of the season where teams are most likely at full strength. Good job I say.


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Anonymous
Last year
07:32 15 Dec 16

Reply #613043

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

So no other state peak bodies administer their own state league championship competition. Think you will find Big V is the only exception and they still run under the BV constitution.

You're very defensive anon #017


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Anonymous
Last year
15:28 15 Dec 16

Reply #613088

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

Not defensive but airing concerns. I guess I could bury my head in the sand and believe everything is perfect in the way basketball is being administered.

So just because others do something one way makes it the best solution for us. Yes, let's keep being followers of what others do and defend our position when it goes of the rails by saying, "but they do it that way"


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Anonymous
Last year
19:16 15 Dec 16

Reply #613152

re: Premier League 2017 - Has BSA dropped the ball?

You are in denial its ok.


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Ricky
Last year
19:23 15 Dec 16

Reply #613154

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