Dave
Years ago

Has Joey Moved on?

Saw this on seek today, surely it's taking the piss...??

https://www.seek.com.au/job/32903574?type=standard&tier=no_tier&pos=1&whereid=3000&userqueryid=acf94e9904ac118b9552dfd2e2395c72-3442815&ref=beta

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KET  
Years ago

...wow

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joey wright is deep in negotiations with Melbourne. The deal is all but done, expected to be finalized within a week

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good luck to him, I'm very happy with this for all parties. United will be asked to just run shoot and shoot. Adelaide will actually be in a position to form some structured set plays when the Stars struggle and with our core have a chance to win a playoff series. This isn't as big a loss as people will panic on and assume.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Lift your stadium catering standards, Adelaide.
People rejecting their food is now impacting your team at the highest level.

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Wookiee  
Years ago

lol I wonder how hard it is to register as an Employee Seeker...

Joey has another year on his last contract doesn't he? Or did he re-sign before this season?

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Joey has at least another year, maybe two.

The wording is suss too. Previous experience coaching an NBL team a requirement? That limits the field somewhat!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's probably a troll but again if true no big loss at all. When push comes to shove and the heat is well and truly on he seems to melt.

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Joshuapending  
Years ago

Personally I hope note but would a pro club really advertise a coaching gig like this? Surley it's word of mouth or head hunting.

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Master Chief  
Years ago

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this happened given how aggressive and cashed up Melbourne are. I dare say Joey would be tempted to go somewhere like that regardless of contract. But this isn't legit.

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Fundingsland  
Years ago

Joey is not going anywhere. All will become clear soon enough

The last person Joey would work for is LK

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Anonymous  
Years ago

All will become clear? What's to become clear? It's either a troll or he is leaving?

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Brunson  
Years ago

"Joey is not going anywhere. All will become clear soon enough"

If that is the case then perhaps since they have new owners Joey just has to reapply for his job.

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Isaac  
Years ago

The ad sounded like it was written to reappoint Joey, but with a requirement that it be openly advertised.

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Observer  
Years ago

District club in Adelaide not NBL

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Master Chief  
Years ago

For anyone in this kind of area, what would be the point of that process?

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Ken Cole was here  
Years ago

if you are someone looking to become a permanent resident you need to demonstrate that you have a job or skill set that is unique and that only you can fulfil that task. ergo you aren't taking a job off a local.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If this is some official type thing for Joey to simply read appont for the job, that is some weird adelaide type stuff. So little faith these days. This is odd.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Joey's still got another two years to go on his contract so not sure about the needing to re-apply angle. If it's legit it doesn't sound good at all and chances are he would probably take Randle with him.

Joey's struck me as never really being that happy here and I think that might be in part because at Brisbane & Gold Coast he was used to having basically an unlimited budget and would get everything he asked for but here there is a budget, at MU obviously things would go back to how they were.

It would be extremely disappointing if both Joey & Randle left.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

The other side of it if it's true that the 36ers are going to be getting a new owner then I think one aspect of that is all contracts become null and void and need to be re-negotiated.

I remember when the SOS group took over after Ninnis' first year as coach they announced they were going to bring him back even though he still had a year to go on his contract which gave the impression with the ownership change his contract had become null and void and they were essentially re-signing him.

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Dave  
Years ago

I have a feeling everything will be fine....

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KET  
Years ago

one aspect of that is all contracts become null and void and need to be re-negotiate


Unless they happened to be incredibly fortuitous in all of their contracts to include a clause regarding change of ownership, then i'd say all contracts remain in tact subject to mutual agreement or breach of agreement otherwise. Contracts don't just become null and void in change of ownership or shareholding.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

I got the impression of being not necessarily the 36ers...

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Isaac  
Years ago

Just listen to "Ken Cole was here". Might seem weird on the surface but jobs being advertised for the people expected to get them isn't uncommon. I'd say he already has the job that he's applying for.

One giveaway I noticed right away is the stipulation for 10 years of NBL coaching experience. That limits the field significantly...

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KET  
Years ago

Adelaide Basketball Ltd are the owners of the Adelaide 36ers with the registered business name of "Adelaide 36ers".

What would they be doing advertising a head coach role for anyone else including a district club?

Wright is contracted so there is no reason for them to be advertising for the role...

This just appears to be a bizarre maneuver by the 36ers or a super fraudulent effort by someone.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Unless they happened to be incredibly fortuitous in all of their contracts to include a clause regarding change of ownership, then i'd say all contracts remain in tact subject to mutual agreement or breach of agreement otherwise. Contracts don't just become null and void in change of ownership or shareholding.


Hopefully that is the case in regards to NBL teams but always struck me as a bit odd the SOS group announcing Ninnis would be brought back when he was under contract already.

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KET  
Years ago

I'm sure there is method to this madness...

I guess the suggestion here is Adelaide is altering the requirements of the job role to assist Joey in getting his permanent residence. The only reason they would publicly advertise for the job is if that were a requirement as part of legitimizing it.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

I'd say he already has the job that he's applying for.


Joey signed a three year extension during the 2015-16 season which started this season so he has two years left unless I was correct that contracts become null and void with a change of ownership thus making this advertisement probably some legal formality.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

OIC...

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KET  
Years ago

Zodiac, the suggestion is more to do with changing the definition of the role for permanent residency purposes than change of ownership or a contractual thing.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Like a few posters have said already, this is DEFINITELY the 36ers fulfilling the requirement to advertise to get Joey Permanent Residency in Australia. Nothing more to it.

Source: I have had to do this before

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KET  
Years ago

http://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/nbl/adelaide-36ers-head-coaching-job-advertised-on-seek/news-story/f773ea81f27b1c585b12f4395b522dfe?nk=d7b0ac37e6b5e0ed95bd86c43ddda37d-1488249723

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Okay I know zilch about permanent residency stuff and why there would be a need to do this. Seems silly but just about everything is with bureaucracy involved.

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KET  
Years ago

Time to dust off that CV

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Dave  
Years ago

I THINK, as Ken Cole was here stated, it is do do with proving that it is a specialised job, i.e must have 10 years professional coaching experience. It's to show that not anyone can do it and you aren't taking a job from a resident, basically.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This is clearly for PR purposes. The government dept. requirements want a copy of the job role ad and the easiest way to do this is to list on Seek.

No NBL head coaching positions are ever on Seek, so why would the Sixers role be on it now.

Think people think!

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Why think when you can cumulatively go crazy?!

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Twitter is going craycray over this!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dave good luck with the job search by the way ;)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

so if qualified people apply it could throw a spanner in the works?

Alan Black and Cal Bruton should apply just to troll.

Well Alan just to troll, Cal probably still believes he could out coach everyone and is the greatest. Also he has to support 38 children.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cal can wear some of his sweet Sean John apparel to the job interview.

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anon  
Years ago

Not going anywhere, his daughter is in the State program here. She is his priority now.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

Starting to come on radio now . Probably TV tonite..
Sixers phone would be running hot now , media want answers....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

lol ppl are so dumb

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PH  
Years ago

As has been clearly stated, it is a bizarre attempt to assist Joey with his application for Permanent Residency.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It is not a "bizarre" attempt. It is a Department of Immigration requirement that the job/role be advertised. A copy of the job ad must be included with all documentation. Seek happens to be the most popular job search website so it was used.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think it's hilarious that any of you are gullible enough to fall for the ad hahaha

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I find it hilarious you think it is a prank rather than for permanent residence requirements. lol at you

The sadder/funnier people are the ones thinking Joey is gone, though.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

so , on radio just then , a caller asked if joey was going to mel. united . "No".. they had spoken to sixers and joey contracted for 2 years and best man for the job here..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Link: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/basketball/dont-worry-36ers-fans-joeys-staying-wright-here/news-story/f788576d4adcd89de991f9087add6103

If the job is meant to prove he is the best applicant and can't be filled by an Aussie, that's clearly wrong. Just sayin
Good luck JW.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why? How many Aussies are better NBL coaches than Wright?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wright is in a highly specialised role so I see no issue with it.

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Isaac  
Years ago

"so if qualified people apply it could throw a spanner in the works?"

How? They would just take the coach of the year who already has rapport with the roster.

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KET  
Years ago

Obviously for this specific instance, it is a facade and Wright will be picked defeating ghe purpose of the regulations.

The laws have more effective application when it comes to jobs where a relationship hasn't already been established with a foreign worker.

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PH  
Years ago

"It is not a "bizarre" attempt. It is a Department of Immigration requirement that the job/role be advertised. A copy of the job ad must be included with all documentation. Seek happens to be the most popular job search website so it was used."

Last time I was involved in this process, there was no requirement to re-advertise, provided the nominated person has been doing the job for at least 2 years under a 457 visa.

I only say "bizarre" because it's a bit silly if the government requires such a blatantly phony paper-trail for such a highly specialised role.

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koberulz  
Years ago

"so if qualified people apply it could throw a spanner in the works?"

How? They would just take the coach of the year who already has rapport with the roster.
Anon may have been referring to the residency application ("look, there are Australians who can do the job"), not the actual head coaching position.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"I only say "bizarre" because it's a bit silly if the government requires such a blatantly phony paper-trail for such a highly specialised role."

Ok now I understand your use of the word bizarre. It is indeed. Typical government, hopeless turds.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So Gaze applied for the job? Bevo? Gleeson? The Goorj? Lemanis? They wouldn't get consideration?
Talk about government stupidity and the Sixers for falling into that trap. Even an objection from an unsuccessful applicant could stymy JW's application.

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LV  
Years ago

There's nothing obvious to indicate that this is next level trolling. No throw away line making the joke clear enough.

Why would there be some requirement to advertise the role?

Isn't Wright signed already? That's what someone on here said when I asked in the DD thread.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The requirement is made by the Department of Immigration. Why? because they are the government.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He obviously want to naturalise. There are Gov requirements for that LV. One can be you have a skillset that Aussies are in shortage for, or can't do that unique job, there you won't put an Aussie out of work.

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Peter  
Years ago

Sounds like the immigration laws are technical and ridiculous.

Just another day at the office for Joey who has had to put up with ridiculous technicals all season!

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