Yinka Dare
Earlier this year

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Lonzo Ball A Bust?

In Lonzo Ball's first summer league game he had a shocker. Had 5 points on 2/15fg including 1/11 3fg. Most of the other top picks have put up good numbers so far. Is he a potential bust? Pressure get to him? Just a bad game? Why is he shooting so many threes?

For all the hype his dad gave him I expected more. LA Lakers and Magic willl be hoping for a big improvement in his next game.

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Sen dog
Earlier this year
23:50 8 Jul 17

Reply #639265

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

LOL just slightly premature.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
23:53 8 Jul 17

Reply #639266

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Good call, one summer league game often foreshadows a career.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
23:54 8 Jul 17

Reply #639267

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Delete this thread haha


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
00:03 9 Jul 17

Reply #639270

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Man, I could not live with a dad like that. The guy is hella irritating.


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AngusH
Earlier this year
08:09 9 Jul 17

Reply #639273

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

It's one of the worst summer league performances I can recall for a top pick. Won't end up meaning anything in the long run, but I'd be a little concerned if I were a Lakers fan given how good Fox, Fultz and now even Smith have looked so far.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
08:47 9 Jul 17

Reply #639275

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Without changing his shooting form, he's going to have to get really crafty about using screens. The fact that he's only an off-the-dribble shooting threat in one direction is a massive concession in the face of NBA-level defence.

There are other concerns, like that his college FT% was so poor, and that's historically been a better predictor of NBA 3P% than has college 3P%. And that he may struggle to defend NBA PGs.

I actually think he seems like a pretty switched on kid who should be receptive to coaching, making adjustments, and just doing what he needs to do to be successful. The problem with his dad, though, is what that does to the expectations of a fan base who might give him a pretty hard time if he takes longer than expected to be effective.


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SteveK2
Earlier this year
10:09 9 Jul 17

Reply #639279

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

A lot of his shots were wide open shots too, maybe too anxious? Couple of times he looked really hesitant on PnR, opting to pass instead of driving hard with the lane open so that's a bit worrying. Could be Magic making sure they don't injure themselves by pushing too hard or aggressive in SL. He put his foot down and said no when Ingram wanted to go back in after he went down.


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joshuapending
Earlier this year
12:23 9 Jul 17

Reply #639287

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Triple Double today. Think he will struggle early on in his career maybe in a similar way to Simmons might but he sure is fun to watch when he is on. Just has something. Also loving this pick by Ainge, Tatum is going to be great.


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Duke Fan
Earlier this year
12:36 9 Jul 17

Reply #639290

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

You don't lead the country in assists over a college season if you can't play. Yes he does unfortunately have ADHD (absolute dick head dad) but hopefully the Lakers can put the right guys around him so he doesn't have to be shooting it too much. The other aspects of his offensive game are good. He sees people ahead on the court and rewards people for running the floor. Could be a great NBA PG.
And yes the Celts have got a real good one in Tatum. He'll be an all star sooner rather than later. One of my favourite players in the short time he was at Duke. Just wish he'd gone to another team. As a Lakers fan and a despiser of Ainge.....yuck


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joshuapending
Earlier this year
14:07 9 Jul 17

Reply #639294

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Hopefully you guys covey that pick to us this year, i'm sure Lonzo will be able to get a good education watching Tatum compete in the east playoffs ;-) I just pray to god James does not go to you guys next year as that would be all levels of wrong in my world.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
21:55 9 Jul 17

Reply #639312

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

And 2nd game a triple double...facepalm


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AngusH
Earlier this year
22:19 9 Jul 17

Reply #639316

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

I'd still like to see him knock down some 3s at the NBA range - just 1 from 5 again today. Michael Carter-Williams put up some pretty great point/rebound/assist totals in his first couple of years in Philly.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
22:37 9 Jul 17

Reply #639319

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

I'm confused, first he's a bust, now hes Russell Westbrook. Hmmm, I might wait till season starts now before listening to predictions.


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Duke Fan
Earlier this year
07:48 10 Jul 17

Reply #639327

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

The first post saying he was a bust was just tripe. I don't see anyone suggesting he's Westbrook (he's a very different type of PG anyway). He's potentially a very good player, with things to work on.


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Wookiee
Earlier this year
09:28 10 Jul 17

Reply #639332

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

I managed to watch some of his 2nd SL game and found myself liking how he went... Wanted to dislike him because of his Dad, but can't really hold that against him... Pulled off some really nice passes and obviously ended up with a great stat line, so the potential is there, but will be good to see him play against proper strength teams... Just wish his Dad would STFU... Funny watching Magic being interviewed and saying that he was cool with Lavar, but he's got to understand that Lonzo is a pro now and he's got to sit back...


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Duke Fan
Earlier this year
10:38 10 Jul 17

Reply #639335

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Dickhead dad is not going to be shutting up any time soon. Don't forget there's 2 more boys coming through that he's going to be talking up as well.

Bottom line is if Lonzo delivers on the court, everyone can hate the stupid old man as much as they want, it won't matter. If he's not performing then it does place a lot of pressure on him if Dad doesn't cool it.


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Earlier this year
11:21 10 Jul 17

Reply #639337

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Lavar is the man. Supports his sons 110%. Constantly behind them.

Many NBA players don't even have a dad.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:52 10 Jul 17

Reply #639340

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Have to give credit though, Lavar has made himself into a celebrity and only 1/3rd of the way through in relation to his sons being drafted into the league.

Effectively in addition to his three sons he has effectively created a name for himself which will probably mean $$$ down the track. Wouldn't rule out media projects for him in future.


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Duke Fan
Earlier this year
12:04 10 Jul 17

Reply #639342

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

I have no problems with him supporting his kids, just wish he'd cut the stupid crap like "I could beat Jordan 1 on 1" etc etc. Some would say "marketing genius" and I guess he can count his dollars and laugh while everyone thinks he's a douche


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:27 10 Jul 17

Reply #639344

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Basically yes.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:27 10 Jul 17

Reply #639348

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Lol @ 1/3 of the way through getting his sons drafted. The next one, LiAngelo, is not going to be an NBA player. And the youngest, LaMelo, might be, but he has a long way to go to get there and doesn't seem as level-headed as Lonzo.

It is 'marketing genius' from Lavar but it's pretty depressing how little intelligence is required to qualify for marketing genius these days. Find some idiot reporter and say something outrageous and next thing you know you're ESPN's biggest story. All the stupid crap he spouts is only worth something because they keep reporting on it. Why can't the 'journalists' realise that Lonzo's a pro now and they don't have to report on his dad? They're the stupid ones, not Lavar.


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anon
Earlier this year
13:31 10 Jul 17

Reply #639350

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

"Many NBA players don't even have a dad"

Genetically impossible.


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Duke Fan
Earlier this year
13:48 10 Jul 17

Reply #639353

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

I didn't say the other 2 were even the slightest chance of getting drafted. I said he'd be talking them up :)


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
14:23 10 Jul 17

Reply #639356

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

The media seems to be promoting the other two as NBA players too. Probably due to the BS generated by Lavar's publicity. Well played.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:58 10 Jul 17

Reply #639384

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Duke Fan, you're not the only other person on the thread. Anon 340 said Lavar is only 1/3 of the way through getting his sons drafted.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
21:18 10 Jul 17

Reply #639394

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

LaVar is 1/3rd of the way through. Irrespective of whether the other two sons are NBA quality or not his mission is to get them drafted as well. Something Anon #348 failed to comprehend.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
21:20 10 Jul 17

Reply #639395

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

... which then was followed up by Duke Fan's reply showing how he thinks the world revolves around him which was described well by Anon #384

#cliffsnotes


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Duke Fan
Earlier this year
12:03 11 Jul 17

Reply #639426

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Hahaha. Anonymous tough guys. Gotta love em


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:27 11 Jul 17

Reply #639435

re: Lonzo Ball A Bust?

Hahaha. Duke Fan tough guys. Gotta love em


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