Andrew keeps telling them "Hey. We're alright"

I don't think even he believes him

I had them missing the playoffs.

Will the Breakers join Utah & Adelaide and put up triple figures on the Kings tonight too?

Lisch is no longer his MVP self, plus he's playing out of position at point guard. The Kings remained confident in Lisch during the off-season to still be "the guy", but he is evidently no longer that

they're too old and the coaching from Gaze is abysmal, he does not have a system, it's just based off nothing, they take some ridiculous shots. The recruiting is just based off getting a star like big-name. Newley and Lisch haven't been what you'd expect, age probably catching up. They need an overhaul AGAIN - new coach and a few new players. Jason Cadee is a liability, thinks hes top shit, when he's just shit... man so many problems. GO SPEND MONEY ON A FIRED NBA COACH. Haha.

Gaze placed way too much responsibilities on Lisch's shoulders. The man is trying but quite evident he's struggling to do everything.

put a fork in Lisch, he's cooked, He'll be a bench player next year - you heard it first.

Its Round 2.

I'm not ready to write them off just yet.

There's tonnes of basketball to play and as we have seen in the past, anything can happen.

would love to have Blanchy at the 36ers, having him sit on the 3pt line with out athletic players attacking, driving and kicking to him would be amazing. He would be a weapon!

What's the word on Garlepp?

Kings tried to buy Garlepp out of the contact he got from Shane Heal. He declined so they are benching him to try and force him to quit. He was once their club MVP.

Pathetic really

No point guard, no centre, no coach, no chance.

Kings should listen to Luke Kendall more. A shrewd basketball mind

Adelaide aren't that good? I'd say they are. Will be top 2. Kings look cooked. Need a new coach and a 3rd import. Unbalanced realm with too much reliance on a rookie big. Surely Garlepp is worth a try

I hear a rumour Steve Blake and Gaze didn't get on, well maybe Blake had a point as he is used to having better coaches..

Off the top of my head, this is the number of returning players from last year at each club:

Perth - 9
Adelaide - 8
Melbourne - 8
NZ - 8
Illawarra - 9
Sydney - 4
Brisbane - 8
Cairns - 8

The Kings are way behind the eight ball, and they also have the least experienced coaching staff in the comp, so it's going to take time to gel.

Despite that they've been right in games against Adelaide and NZ, and were far from terrible against Utah.

I can't see them making playoffs, but I can see them finding some quality form as the season progresses, especially if they make a smart selection with their third import.

Ellis is getting better and OMGoodness Blanchfield what a block !!!!!!. Leslie looks like in 2nd gear = Powell of last year - certainly not a Cotton, Ware or Trice. Jeff Wrongagain, I would suggest getting a true import PG, who plays with determination and an import centre ASAP. Otherwise we are looking at the spoon.

Their offense is terrible, hurts to watch!

Not sure what JVG's delusions are, but when I raised concerns months ago about the Kings' frontcourt (or lack of it). His answer was "we have guys coming back from the boomers and we don't want an import to take court time away from them".

When it was pointed out that Cadee, Newley and Blanchfield do not play in the 5. His answer was "Eliis can play the 5".

Garlepp is happy to take the money

Kings should listen to Luke Kendall more. A shrewd basketball mind

When the Kings go on a winning streak .... watch the mega thread about how the Kings have broken the cap...lol.

The time for the third import is coming up when NBA teams finalise their rosters. Plenty of good players on the market at the same time.

So who are their two imports?

Singh is Indian, Ellis and Leslie American... who isn't an import?

Singh because as an Indian he can play as a local player.

Oh right, so it's all of Asia not just Asia Pacific.

Well Sydney needs to find a half decent import big who can protect the rim.

In the first 2 games they've been outrebounded by 13 and outscored in the paint 74 to 44.

With their current roster they're definitely not a playoffs team but I give them a chance if they can improve in those areas.

The way to improve in those areas is to play players who are taller than 6'4". They don't have any.

Yep Kobe, none, apart from eight guys on their roster.

Not sure about Singh, then we have a young developing Humphrys so the big man department is a bit thin compared to some other teams right now and yes, some of the guards and utilities are on the experienced side but not going to throw them to the wolves just yet.

Yep Kobe, none, apart from eight guys on their roster.

I love the state of the Kings this year. It means the Taipans still have a chance of not winding up with spoon :-)

Coach here, open for comment

No point guard, no centre, no coach, no chance.

"No heart"

That's rubbish. They showed a heap of heart on Thursday. They also showed a lot of fight in Utah when they could have got completely wiped.

As for not using extra imports in Utah, why would they? It was their last pre-season game and they used the players on their roster to prepare for the real thing.

"No heart"

That's rubbish.

Keep an eye on the Leslie body language. In the last time out in regular time in the Breakers game he wasn't even in the huddle and was (not that I blame him because it was probably far more interesting than anything Gaze had to say) just checking out the cheer leaders.

Looked like he was pissed by not being on the court at the time.

Anon...."Sydney should sign Geordie Mcloud, how does this man not have a job? Was fantastic at Illawara"


You need to work on proper nouns pal!

If JVG is the problem, those at the top won't take the hard decision to get rid of him because they would look like fools for getting him in and then letting him stay.

I hope we don't see Sydney fold before there's a clean-out.