under 18 div 1 boys norwood will be a very strong team.

'nall' - if one knows the squad and the players, one may assume that 7 of that team will be bottom-age - wait till the end of Summer to see how much they've improved.

I'm guessing Woodville U18 1s and Sturt U16 1s will be pretty impressive.

Sturt will not be the force they have been in recent years with that group! Isn't the big fella going to the AIS!

Woodville, Forestville, & West will be the pace setters in 18's next season. With North & Southern pushing

phil brown would have to have an amazing year for the tigers 18's to be a threat.

Rudiger - read, 16s

Noarlunga 18 have picked up South's best player from 2 years ago and have recently picked up the vic country under 16 boys captain from this year. They will do quite well next year. North under 16 boys will be strong, this year they have 3 first year guards in their div 1's who have all coped well. Plus a strong div 2 team. other then them, the 16's could be close sturt have some good players, norwood have some reasonable athletes to compliment their point guard, and anyhting is possible at forestville with arnie coaching them. Should be good to see how the norwood boys go in the 18's? Hope they do really well

Curious - a few of North's Under 18 Girls side are moving on, or so they say, or is it just that time of the year. I reckon the Com will be even this season. A big shake up with a few upsets. The clubs that have just be plodding along will start to shine. Watch out you rockets.

libertine i know that most of them will be "bottom age" but it does not take it away form the fact that they will be a strong team.

The U/18 Boys Competiton next year will be very even. I agree with Coach b that Southern will be better for the recuits they have picked up, along with West, Woodville (4 bottom ages returning next year) and Sturt (7 bottom ages this year, although Dodman is going to the AIS which will affect them). Forrestville, North and Norwood will also be very competitive. This is great news for whomever coaches the state team next year. The past 3 -4 years have seen a very even competition in that age group which has reflected in some great results from the U/18 SA Metro boys at Nationals.

^ That was me ^ forgot I was at uni, had to type in my details.

i get it. but i still think that team will do well

Precisely my point Jirachi, we'll see how much they've improved when they take on every team and see how they've matched up.

Having coached the Norwood boys for the past 2 years and seeing what we had last year and what will be their next year they are a good chance to do well. Our problem last year was our height. Fortunately at state champs last year we got a kid from our div 3 and he has developed into a reasonable player and also this year the developement of another of our players(div 2 last year), makes that team from last year a far more balanced and better team. Add in two solid second year leaders and they look rreally good. All depends on who coaches next year.. Would be a good year to coach the state team next year

it is true, state will be awsome

12 Boys, Sturt, Forestville, Tigers
12 Girls, Sturt, Tigers, South North
14 Boys , Sturt, Norwood, West
14 Girls Sturt, Tigers, Centrals, Foretville
16 Boys South, Sturt, Norwood, Tigers
16 Girls North, Norwood, West, Sturt
18 Boys, Tigers, Woodville, Forestville
18 Girls North, West Forestville

Anyone agree?

Wearing our hearts and ambitions on our sleeves????

1) Carlo trying to shoot Paul Arnott in the back or facing him upfront? .........
"All depends on who coaches next year.. Would be a good year to coach the state team next year

Carlo Bertetic, 17/08/04"

AND

2)Is Liam on the Marines sniper & commando trail of Scott Loveday??? ....
"This is great news for whomever coaches the state team next year. The past 3 -4 years have seen a very even competition in that age group which has reflected in some great results from the U/18 SA Metro boys at Nationals.

Liam Flynn, 17/08/04"

Just seems WAY too early after one attempt at that State Age group to remove the coaches doesn't it???

and

This comes from the TWO Assistant coaches for U16 Metro boys of this year??? Makes one wonder, thats all!

FarViewer,

Neither Liam nor Carlo were trying to stake their claims. They were both just commenting on the strengths of the age group.

Incidentally, Carlo was talking about the U18s, not the U16s.

I like your attempt to cause a barney though!

12 Boys, Sturt, Forestville, Tigers
14 Boys ,West, Sturt, Norwood
16 Boys Sturt and North (Tight One), South, Norwood

curious - how could you forget North in u14 girls?

I am curious as to what makes people think next years U18 state team will be so great when that group came 8th last year?

Am I missing something?! I only know of 1 person that wasn't there in 16s.

Not trying to be negative, I'm just not sure why everyone thinks it's such a great group. Hopefully they will keep our top 4 streak alive in 2005.

Hahah farviewer... that is a funny post. You could work for the local basketball tabloid magazine.

I just think maybe you should read Carlo's post again but more carefully, slowly and one word at a time this time. I hope it makes sense after that.

Having said that you would think the Norwood U18s would be similar as they were 2 yrs ago but only time will tell.

The step up from U16 1s to U18 1s is the biggest step in juniors.

Too many first years making the step up make things tough. ( and b4 everyone jumps up and down I am talking generally and not specifics)

Well , possibly three people vying for the U18s State Metro post makes an even more interesting picture!

Why comment on State Team Coaching unless one was interested, or are they maybe trying to "cause a barney" Paul A??

:P

zzzzz....just rissen out of a coma.....zzzz....slipped into it shortly after reading far viewer's post....zzzz.....must have been a stupidity induced....zzzz....a warning to all to be careful when reading all of far viewer's future posts.......

Curious, fairly decentish predictions, but with two glaring omissions:

U14 girls: North

This team made the gf in 12s, and although I don't know if most/all are still there, would expect them to at least be around the mark. Maybe someone from North could confirm?

U16 Boys: North

The North boys group easily won 14s, going undefeated throughout the winter season. I believe they also have 3 players returning from this years' 16 1s who have performed well. Also, why is everyone so high on South in 16 boys? They were fairly average in 14s if I remember correctly....

Apologies, I forgot the Under 14 North girls. They will be there especially as they have picked up the west guard.

Firstly i have no ambition to coach a state team yet. I delighted to be asked by Paul back in January to be an assistant and if i ever get asked again i would accept. For someone who has been coaching district basketball for only 4 years and div 1 for the past 2 (after moving from the country) i have no intention to apply for the state for a number of years.
I have no intention of stabbing paul in the back. As i have said to many people at my club he is a great coach who has a great depth of knowledge. alot which i have picked up and used in my trainings and games. The same goes for Liam.
As incognito stated i was talking about the 18's. I think there are some decent players in that group from 2 years ago and with 2 years further development at sasi and as players they are a good chance to perform well.

And lastly to someone who hides behind Farview, if you knew the type of person i am, i am not one to shoot people in the back and if i ever decide to apply for a state team against the previous years coach im sure i am decent enough to discuss with them. Especially someone like Paul would has helped me out so much over the past 2 yars as a district coach.

Carlo,

While I am sure you did learn alot from Liam Flynn and Paul Arnott, coaching with them, I was dissapointed you didnt mention the time a couple of years ago, after a jr training, at st iggies I gave you a 3 pt shooting lesson.

In keeping with the topic I will keep a lid on whether we will be strong or not next year but I do look forward to facing you in the U16s. We did get some very, very big kids out to trials! My club shall remain nameless but some can probably figure it out for themselves.
Does height count for anything in basketball??

You're coaching U16s Incog?! My golly gosh. Your Club must be desperate!! :-P

Hoop Addict

That's awesome incognito...

How big are these boys, can they play, and are they metro or country?

Come on incognito. I look forwood to coaching against you too. I have heard alot of things about your coaching, so it will be interesting to see what you can do? Should be interesting how your club goes considering they dont have a div 1 team this year and are mid table in the 2's.

carlo u might remember me? my sources told me i would hav been re-instated bak into the 16 1's team at norwood where michael cobbing had me planned to play all along until he quit, but i left to play 16 1's for woodville. unfortuantely another coaching change there and a new recruit saw me dropped to 2's and i am now stuck in 18 3's absolutely dominating. im a good 6'2 now. reckon if id stayed id b in the 18 1's for next season????
p.s if u dont remember me bk wen u were coachin under 12's i was the under 16 who came out and helped....

The above post from anon was not me btw.

I dont pretend for a moment we will beat the Flames. But at least we will be tall and have a better 3 pt shooting coach :)

Legal Disclaimer:

"3 pt shooting coach" comes across as if Im trying to say I can teach kids to shoot better than Carlo and thats not the case.

Its just a tongue in cheek reference to the fact that I beat Carlo in a shooting game a couple of years ago.

I wouldnt use this forum to have a crack at a good coach/guy like Carlo.

Ihquwir, i do remember who you are, an your problably right, if you stayed at norwood and fought for your spot for a bit longer you might have been in. But thats history. That was your decision to leave and lets leave it at that.

Incognito, being tall is one thing but actually being able to play is completely different. Height is great but they the need to be developed. They take time and are often hard work. Good luck to your group next year. How is that ABL career going?

hahah yes mate, I think patience, extreme hardwork, perserverence and belief are key.... and that applies to the points in your entire post.

carlo im serious i hav game now and wud make norwood 18 1's i reckon

disregard that last post, i was hammered coz id just come from the intercol bball afterparty

*tut tut* He's a Woodville feral now :P


Jirachi, everytime we played him in 16s after he left we won the game every time because of his 'perfect' attitude. Alternatively, modesty is a recommended social as well as personal trait you might need in the future, if you're going to succeed in anything, CM. Your brother is a top bloke - ask him about it.

PS If you could "make it" in 18 1s at Norwood why didn't you go to trials? Why not prove something on the court reather than use your mouth the whole game? From what I heard from our 18 3s coach, nothing much has changed.

*Legal Disclaimer* (like I know what I'm doing here anyway...)
I just don't like arrogance, and it's late and missing the All* pissed me off.

1. i was drunk wen i said i had game and wud make the 18 1's

2. goodluck having a 'perfect' attitude in the team i was in

3. i broke my toe in the game against norwood so i wasnt exactly at my best

4. i didnt go out to trials coz im happy at woodville, surrounded by great blokes and havin fun which is wat its all about

5. i didnt make that first post to claim how good i was, it was purely out of curiosity

Ok, sure, fine, whatever.

Just don't use your 'being drunk' to blame for everything you say.

not everything i say, just that one post...

Libertine

Do you think maybe lhquwir is just 'testing the waters' because he knows he won't make Div 1 at Woodville? They do have a very strong group.

Ive moved clubs once, and have never looked back. I am happy at woodville and only want to play div 1 if i feel like i deserve to be there. Im not gonna look around tryna make div one at other clubs wen im happy playin wateva at woodville

"Cat in the Hat"

I didn't want to say that :P

the u14 sturt boys team is one of the best units going around they took just their sturt team away to play state teams such as QLD state and knocked them off by about 20 if i hear correctly this team is mad and beat the 2nd top team by 40 points each game its a strond force in the game and will become very big soon.

north 18 1s

I am surprised not many have mentioned forestville for u18 div 1 boys. They will have three big guys which will be hard to match up on and 2 state guards as well. They came 2nd in u16 2 years ago and if Sturt are missing Dodman it is hard to see who will push the eagles.