Jack Toft
Years ago

Sixers v Cats, Jan 4

The first game of 2018 is upon us. Sixers host the Cats and this will be a test to see who has had too much Christmas pudding and who hasn't been practicing over the break.

Cats are top of the table by a whisker and must thank the Sixers for putting them there (what a thoughtful Christmas present that was, eh boys!) by beating the HeartBreakers. Sixers are fourth and can smell Illawarra's (and Cairns) bad breath breathing down their necks.

The Cats love their defence and the Sixers love offence so this will be a treat for fans. The Cats however have one major weakness and that is they rely on Damian Martin too much. He is the garlic in their spaghetti sauce, the glitter in their mardi gras, and the bounce in their step. Without him, they are headless chooks on a court. Without him, it would be like going to Rotty Island to play quokka soccer, but there's no quokkas.

For the Sixers to win this game they need to break his ankles. Not in a Tonya Harding way, but just off foot him in defence when he sets for his flop and then move the other way. Zig when he expects a zag.

The Sixers then just need to worry themselves with Cotton and Walker. Waxy Mark 2.0 is a machine. Somebody check there's not a USB port at the back of his neck where Trevor Gleeson plugs him in at night to download all the moves he hid from us for 13 seasons.

This game deserves a big crowd, a noisy crowd. A streaker during some FTs would be nice, but completely inappropriate in these PC times. Come on you Sixers fans, lets take the purr out of these Cats. Get down and get behind your team.

Let's Go Sixers!

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Jonzie  
Years ago

Perth Wildcats!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Go Quokkas!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cats win this

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LoveBroker  
Years ago

Damian Martin a flopper?

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Perth

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Deimos33  
Years ago

Ha ha Walker a robot

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Udog  
Years ago

Is this the first year Perth haven't had at least 1 naturalized American on the roster?

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koberulz  
Years ago

Grace retired after 2005 and Redhage didn't naturalise until the middle of the 2008 season. From memory I don't think they had any other naturalised players over those two years?

Would've been some seasons in the 80s as well.

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Udog  
Years ago

They started in 88 right? Wasn't Bruton there as playing coach?

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koberulz  
Years ago

82. With Hickert, Keys and Evans. Not sure if Hickert was naturalised though, he may have been in under some other exemption.

Bruton didn't arrive until 87, along with Crawford and Pinder.

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Udog  
Years ago

I got confused because they were crap before Bruton.

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Udog  
Years ago

We're Grace, Crawford and Fisher all naturalized when playing together?

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koberulz  
Years ago

Only the last couple of years. Fisher and Grace naturalised in 1996, Crawford retired after barely playing in 1999.

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Udog  
Years ago

Did they ever have 4 Americans on the roster? Sorry, last question....

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koberulz  
Years ago

They had four after Crawford and Pinder naturalised and were joined by Grace (1990-95) and Allen (1990), and Hansen (1991-92).

After Grace and Fisher naturalised in 1996 with Crawford still naturalised, Todd Lichti became the fourth from 1996-99 and they added a fifth with Hansen (1996), Van Dyke (1997), and a handful of players rotating through due to both form and injury in 1998 and 1999.

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Big Ads  
Years ago

Walker was in movie review mode while at Adelaide, Gleeson noted the input error, removed the i from movie and adjusted the settings accordingly.

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Udog  
Years ago

I wonder if they ever started those 5 players in one game?

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Anon  
Years ago

Nice write up Jack Toft :)

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koberulz  
Years ago

I wonder if they ever started those 5 players in one game?
It would've taken a Vlahov injury.

Fisher missed the entire 1997 regular season, IIRC, Hansen came off the bench in 1996 and Crawford shifted to the bench in 1998 before barely playing in 1999. Perth went through 16 players that year and still barely scraped together a full team for some games.

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Udog  
Years ago

They had 5 for a 4 year period then 96-99. They would be the only team to ever have so many I'd guess.

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Deimos33  
Years ago

Whatever Walker's turnaround is, who knows, may it continue and don’t let Melbourne take him at the end of the season

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He seems to be heavily into coffee so I could see him returning to Australia's coffee capital.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Melbourne currently have 4 American born players

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Udog  
Years ago

Wesley? Back then it was 2 imports though. Except the first couple of years from inception I believe?

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Ramone Moore suiting up for the 6ers is a welcome boost for this game. Hopefully it's an entertaining one, and the player of the game isn't wearing grey.

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Cats 4 life  
Years ago

I reckon Perth should clog the key way and make them beat us from deep, not the best from beyond the arc.

Stop the transition and the key's for me is personally is deng of the bench and dj.

1st time Adelaide will see cotton and Tokoto play live, great athletes and player's.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

If you can't get to a TV, today’s game against Adelaide will be broadcast live on @abcgrandstand digital.

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NannasAlwaysRight  
Years ago

Should be a good game.
Wonder whether the MC can be heard again or whether the music will be all Bass.
Another useless game day presentation

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koberulz  
Years ago

If you can't get to a TV, today's game against Adelaide will be broadcast live on @abcgrandstand digital.
This would be a good alternative to Homicide or skipping the game, since Perth are playing, but I'm unable to watch it live. There's no way I can listen later, is there?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Koberulz, do you really not watch or you just being a bit of a girl's blouse because you don't enjoy Homicide.

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koberulz  
Years ago

I haven't watched a game Homicide's done commentary on since around early to mid December, with the exception of the Wildcats' home game against Brisbane which I attended, and could thus watch without his involvement.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So both then

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think your being a bit of a cry baby about homicide.

The only person you are disadvantaging is yourself.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

tbh I used to think koberulz would be someone who would love homicide

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Hogwash  
Years ago

I watch as many games as I can.
I don't get bothered by who is commentating just enjoy the game.

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

I feel like people have the ability to not get deterred by certain things. For example, barking dogs in a neighbourhood. Just tune it out and choose not to get annoyed by it. Doesn't take much, Kobe. Show yourself that you're not a weak-minded individual. Sounds harsh, but I'm not shitcanning you. Just deal with it. We know how much you love NBL, and to not watch something because of one guy talking on the broadcast is stupid.

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Cats 4 life  
Years ago

Get over it! Homicide done an amazing job so far!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The relationship between homicide and flog seems to have taken a 180 degree turn from a couple of seasons ago?

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GrannyPanties  
Years ago

Finally Joey has listened and dropped Hodgson to the bench .

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cooke can dunk

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He can block too. That was clean.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

where was the contact on DJ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Refs alreasy messing with the game. That block was ridiculously clean. 2nd foul on cooke. First was soft too

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Really you wave the score off? Dont call the foul

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Should be an usf to intentionally foul a guy to prevent someone else's open dunk

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tokoto is a cheese tease

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Anonymous  
Years ago

another mystery foul

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Brandt is. Awful

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is there any team in any sport in Australia more protected than the Adelaide 36ers? Pathetic.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sewmwd good last season. Very ordinary now.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hodge travelled at least as much as Brandt on the next move

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Travelling calls really inconsistent. Deng did the same thing as Cotton, but no call.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Officiating still feels like a guessing game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cats have happy feet and Kenny carries the ball every time he handles it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cotton amd cooke dumped in one play no call. Seriously if its a foul at ome end it has to be at the other

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dumped? The word you are looking for is flopped

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Vic Wildcat  
Years ago

I'd love to see us play a zone once in a while, Adelaide aren't super strong from the three. Cut their strength out.

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

Tommy Greer, I see it now. His talk is mundane and riddled with buzzwords that make his stuff sound interesting to someone only half paying attention. Much like Basil Zempilas

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Anonymous  
Years ago

[quote]Dumped? The word you are looking for is flopped [/quote]

Must be an Adelaide fan. After watching Sobey for so long, has to be considered an expert in detecting flops.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

LOL another nice phantom foul

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How is that a foul om damo? Ffs the refs are a joke, adelaides home cooking has to be the best in the league at this point

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No need to be an Adelaide fan to spot Perth flops. Just need 2 working eyes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another drive, another foul more adelaide free throws... boring

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RG  
Years ago

Damn
leaned in. Another good call.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

14 fta to 6 fta.. margin... now one team is setrling fir jumpers while the other is been ushered to the line

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I like the wildcats offence of driving to a contested lane and throwing up a blind shot. Should work.

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Vic Wildcat  
Years ago

not the refs fault we are giving them lay ups, crap d is our problem.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Or the one where they just run into a defender and throw it away

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Anonymous  
Years ago

6ers getting a free ride from the refs

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kenny LOL

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Every time the 6ers drive into a contested shot they get rewarded with freethrows, only difference is one team gets the call looks smart the other gets no call and looks stupid

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Vic Wildcat  
Years ago

Sixers shooting 12% from the 3pt line, yet we keep persisting with man to man. Play a zone for fuks sake Gleeson.

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Re: FloppyCats flopping

Several seasons ago I looked at the stats per team, home and away.
Each team plays a similar style so I looked at the number of fouls per team and offensive fouls awarded per team.

Of the teams, all teams except one were pretty consistent regarding the number of fouls awarded to and against them on the road and at home.

However, the Wildcats had less fouls per game awarded against them at home and a visiting team had more fouls awarded against them while playing at the stadium. For example, the non-Wildcat team averaged 15 fpg at home at 16 fpg away, but 19 fpg at Perth. Wildcats averaged 12 fpg against them at home, but 17 fpg on the road.

Significantly, the number of offensive fouls per away team was and average of around 1.2 fpg at other stadiums, but about 2.3 fpg at Perth. When Perth was on the road they fouled at the same rate as the away team.

Unfortunately, I can't find my old stats or post, but yes Wildcats fan you are favoured at home.

BTW, FYI doubters, I have actually studied statistics and applied maths at Uni so I know how to interpret data.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Case and point the creek drive

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Adelaide still playing well though.

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Timberball  
Years ago

Adelaide you are so cheap...Buy your own damn cheeseburgers

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Jack, proof or it didn't happen. :)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Citing numbers from several seasons ago to disprove what is obvious today? Ok

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If perth gets the same calls adelade is driving to the basket the margin is at least halved. Adelaide is playing better sure, but they are also getting favoured and bailed out when driving where perth is not

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Did anyone else notice the Johnson pushout on Cooke to get the O board and nothing?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

yet another NBL being ruined by some terrible reffing

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's a potentially close game being ruined by Perth playing like garbage

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

Perth is losing so the reffing is fine. If Perth didn't get the benefit of the whistle every game, they wouldn't win a single game

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Anon, when I find it, I will post it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Greer "great to see sobey sliding his feet to take the charge" video footage shows sobey still moving backwards...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

All comes down to what the referees bet on....

Just earning a little extra on the side

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Jack bringing up the past to disprove what is happening this season. Do us a favour and look up if adelade has had less fta than there opponent lately. Or should we just ask NZ how they feel about the officiating in Adelaide?

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Luuuc  
Years ago

A few soft ones but the Cats aren't even giving the refs a chance to show consistency at the other end. Very lacklustre half by us. Dumb offence, and lazy defence. I expected a lot better after the way we played last game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You can be moving backwards and take a charge

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Uncle Phil  
Years ago

Nice post Jack - I remember when you posted that thinking it was a great analysis. It is hard though to talk any sense into one eyed anonymous Perth fans badly in need of some rectinol.

Nice 2nd qtr by the Sixers, great continuous attack on the rim. Hopefully we can put the cats away in the third quarter as we seem to have let a lot of teams stay in games that we shouldn't have this year.

Haven’t seen a lot of Tokoto but he is very impressive - Wildcats import recruiting would have to easily be the best in the nbl in recent times.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

To anonymous a few posts ago. Learn the rules properly. The defensive player does NOT have to be stationary to get a charge. Once the defensive position is established he CAN be moving backwards !!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yoir right uncle phil all adelaide fans arent one eyed are they??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I guess we arent calling travels at that end this half??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How do you stop perth getting rebounds, just call a foul when the get the o board

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nothing to do with the game, but wasn't January supposed to be heritage month?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I just love you arm chair referees - basically FOS !

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Gonna play some D this half are we? Ok maybe we can make this a contest.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

36ers don't play well against a zone d... although I've mentioned that a few times before....

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AussiePride  
Years ago

Martin playing at another level! Can you believe the steals he can get?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ok Creek is seriously getting calls whenever he goes in the key now

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Anonymous  
Years ago

As above

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is Hodgson the softest big guy in the league?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hodge pushed Brandt into Creek on the drive, and it's Brandt's foul? Argue that one

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cats d having an impact. Refs trying to put a stop to it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tokoto looked to get all ball there

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No Hodge flop? Who's flopping now?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Creek owned on that one

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AussiePride  
Years ago

Hodgson can't be that soft. He cleaned up Wagstaff there.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Haha I think zac delaney could clean up wagstaff

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hodge should have fouled out by now.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Equitable fta equitable game. Very rarely should one team be +10 fta attempts in this league

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Might want to keep tabs on cotton at this point?

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Uncle Phil  
Years ago

Terrible quarter by the Sixers - the zone really derailed our offense. Unfortunately none of our imports can shoot the 3 consistently and it is a big weakness when they are all logging a lot of minutes. Obviously Drimic being out hurts too but I do worry we don't have enough of a perimeter offense to be a serious threat this year - hopefully I’m wrong.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A little consistency would go a long way... Too bad we are in Adelaide though. Would be nice to see consistent calls on both ends, good or bad.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

When is drmic due back

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Must be frustrating as a big guy, no foul looks like all ball foul on uou at the other end

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DENG!!!! Huge minutes!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Game saving cameo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DENG !!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yo Childress just tried to take it back to the 90's

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DJ gets away with a moving screen, holding, hook, and push in one play. Are the refs not watching?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

All style no substance

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Here are the refs to make sure those free throw attempts retuen tobsave adelaide. Rewaed dj for driving in from the 3pt line...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Walker might be improved but his still ordinary

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Deng dagger. Game over!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DEEEEENG!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why wasnt it a foul on creek when tokoto drove? Had to settle for a bad jump shot.

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lel  
Years ago

what a utter disgraceful collapse by the wildcats

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Big bash DESTROYING the NBL in TV ratings...

That is why the NBL will never be a major player..they will never get the TV ratings needed to keep LK interested long enough

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No foul on another tokoto drive. Fta way up for Adelaide agian... score...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That was a poor foul called then. DJ didn't touch Cotton

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Love the Perf fans. Their team gives up threes and layups all quarter but it's the refs fault they lose

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Childress is just class !!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tokoto what a hero. Misses the dunk. Misses the free throw. Takes a big L. Such a tough guy.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sixers acting like they won a title hahaha.

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AngusH  
Years ago

What did Tokoto say to Deng there? I wish I could make contact dunks like you've been making 3s this Q?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hit the road punk

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth will be the one hoisting that title again in the GF

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This thread is utter shit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Childress correct you wont win a title.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Big bash DESTROYING the NBL in TV ratings...

That is why the NBL will never be a major player..they will never get the TV ratings needed to keep LK interested long enough"

The reffing has been turning me away a lot lately. Just makes games frustrating to watch. Now that the BBL is on every night it's made it an easier decision to start watching that instead of the NBL.

The leagues killing itself with little things that they can fix themselves.

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AussiePride  
Years ago

That was an exciting High Standard Game!

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AngusH  
Years ago

I'm guessing the anon hyping Big Bash is a salty Perth fan?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No doubt

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Poor success starved team has to celebrate a meaningless regular season game like they won something meaningful lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Speaking of big bash how are the scorchers going?

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AngusH  
Years ago

I don't know, beating the top team on the ladder when you are fighting for a post season spot seems like a decent reason to celebrate lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah Angus, its clearly only Perth fans that complain about reffing. Dickhead.

Which one of your wooden spoons are you using to try and stir things up?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Super salty in here. Delicious :)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth keep winning titles, Adelaide keep choking yet perth fans are salty? Ratings are factual, as is Adelaides reliance on fta advantage

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AngusH  
Years ago

Nope, I complain plenty. Thought it was fine tonight though, not much wrong compared to the past few weeks.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"I'm guessing the anon hyping Big Bash is a salty Perth fan?"

my comment #439 was more in reference to watching games as a neutral/casual. Right now I'd much rather watch a BBL game as a neutral to an NBL game. I watched lots of them early in the season but quickly grew sick of things like the reffing and it was just frustrating.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So if you complain, aren't you being salty?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If deny doesn't go on a fluke run Perth wins this easily

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Glad I managed to tune in for last quarter. Tokoto is a high calibre flog and I love watching him lose.

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AngusH  
Years ago

No, salty will be me when Perth smash Sydney by 40+ points on Saturday night.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

As a Perth fan, I'm not going to detract from what Deng did. The kid won the game for his team with a monster quarter. Good on him too. Maybe it was a "fluke" but it still happened.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Not going to win many games when you're out-played in 3 of the 4 quarters. Pretty weak effort by the Cats I thought.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Adelaide lead league at 26 fta attempts.

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Timberball  
Years ago

Took Deng pulling a game out of his ass to beat the Cats. 36ers jumping around like they won the championship, lol, enjoy the mid-season home win.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Adelaide chokers in the playoffs. Should any Win they get over Perth even if it's a meaningless game

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I mostly did like Adelaide's game tonight. Thought Write out coached Trev tonight. Also, liked Wilson commenting on the strategy early in the game. Good strategy and good adjustment with Deng.

Adelaide did get away with some really cheap plays though. DJ plays illegal screens almost every time at the point. I don't get that at all. Lots of cheap pushing from DJ and Hodge. That's poor form.

Reffing inconsistent again, with Adelaide getting bailed out several times. Part of that I think is just that NBL refs can't officiate contested lay ups. They lack the skill. Holding and pushing off the ball very inconsistently officiated.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If the Adelaide always chokers in the playoffs

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If the Adelaide always chokers in the playoffs

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Zodiac  
Years ago

And Perth fans wonder why they're the most disliked fans in the league.

Lose with some dignity FFS

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Anonymous  
Years ago

As a neutral great game, didn't have a problem with refereeing. Re watching the big bash I notice the crowds look small with lots spare seats, was in a hotel last week and Sydney v Melbourne was on and they want to change to the big bash and got shouted down, think the basketball is doing just fine.

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Cats 4 life  
Years ago

I said that before the game started

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Massive scoring output by Deng. 16 points in 14 minutes. Compare that to 2 points in 27 mins by Martin

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Adelaide have won one game where they havent led the ft count, in that solitary game they had one less. Perth have won 3 with less fta.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Um, didn't you claim earlier to have studies statistics and know how to interpret them?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Very insightful comparison

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The crowd tonight was around 6,800. Compare that to the last four digits of my phone number (2393).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great game. Childress, Creek and Deng all excellent. God help the Kings on Saturday, because the Wildcats will be mad as hell after losing like that to the old enemy. Cats by 20+ in Sydney.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If the 6 era are banking a scrub like Deng to regularly have these fluke games to win in the playoffs then they better have a backup plan because it ain't going to happen again.

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Uncle Phil  
Years ago

Great game to watch, serious individual talent on show with a number of players having great moments. DJ being a beast in the first half, Tokoto impressive and serving up a facial to Mitch Creek. Shorter/Childress/Creek attacking the rim in the second quarter and having great all round games, in the third - Cotton taking over offensively and Damien Martin taking over defensively. Then Deng coming off the bench in the fourth when the 6ers looked unable to score against the zone and busted the game wide open. And those attempted dunks by Tokoto and Childress - imagine if they had been completed - would have made it even better.

Unfortunate this thread has been derailed by anonymous posters on school holidays for what was a great game.

Happy with the win for the Sixers but I would like to see Joey have a better strategy to go to when teams shift to a zone defence. This seems to have hurt us a fair bit in games this season. As DJ was feeling good, it might have been worthwhile running some plays for him to get an open 3 in the third when they went to the zone rather than having guys drive into multiple defenders and turn the ball over. However putting Deng in the fourth and having him do what he did works also - great to see a young player step up like that in crunch time.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Its only January. Calm the farm .

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John Fairs  
Years ago

What a horrible week to trade in Tokoto and Captain him. Was tossing up between trading in DJ and Childress but decided to go Tokoto and upgrading Humphries to Brandt. Never thought Tokoto would be the mistake.

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

United get minor premiership

SF1: Melbourne beats NZ
SF2: Adelaide beats Perth
GF: Melbourne beats Adelaide

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Melbourne lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^thats pretty ordinary

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rashweed lol

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Awesome post. Definitely worth posting twice.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

"I was disappointed with our defence, failure to execute and not playing hard enough," said Trevor Gleeson.
"One thing a coach shouldn't have to ask his players is to play hard enough. It's disappointing."


Bingo.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think Gleeson also said something about Rashweed.

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

If Perth's chemistry can go to shit and they don't try as hard, that'd be great. Tokoto has a big role to play in this scenario. Step up, kid!

Because they aren't the most talented team in the competition, that's for sure

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wishful thinking Manu. They'll be there when it counts.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth were average but clearly missing the winning influence of Greg Hire tonight. He is the x factor.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

have to ask though was Adelaide better without Sobey on the floor? Seemed like to me!

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TokotoRulz  
Years ago

As a Tokoto fan. I'm starting to question is mental toughness and desire.

His turnovers are also annoying at times.

Wildcats played badly but were in it. Not a terrible loss considering we could have won but had no business being in contention.

A career night by a Deng cost us the W.

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

If Shorter doesn't re-sign with Adelaide, I hope we have a go at him. Been a fan since day 1. Really showing some shit, including in the half-court

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

And TR, that's what I mean about Tokoto being a big part in Perth's downfall. I saw that in him pretty early, turned me off. That and the fact he plays for Perth. In the industry we call that a BAN

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Certainly not Tokoto's finest game, but he was far from the only culprit too. At least he attacked the basket occasionally. When he's taking a lot of longish jumpers it's sometimes a poor decision, but IMO mostly a symptom that our whole offence is dysfunctional, and it's up to him to bail us out. His impact on D is a concern though. He has been generating us free possessions & easy baskets, but not so much lately.
We need more from our front court to take some pressure off the back 3.

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Udog  
Years ago

Deng will be a future star. He is so solid for a young bloke with limited minutes. Very hard to guard a bloke like that too.

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Udog  
Years ago

I've really enjoyed reading all the whining on here. Puts a big smile on my face:)

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Ayjay  
Years ago

Match report Adelaide Now

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/basketball/majok-deng-explodes-with-16-final-quarter-points-as-adelaide-beats-perth/news-story/15d72b17a05db262237bb1e31c6ac460

1/ Jack Toft took the trouble to look up and post stats regarding Perth's referee advantage at home. He doesn't need to reproduce them for proof as any halfwit can see, it has been happening for a very long time. All credit to Perth as they have finessed, better than any other team, how to push the referee's boundaries to the max. How to make the referees feel bad for calling so many fouls on one team. Lets face it we need a clean out of the current referees and some new blood brought in. They have not been good enough for a very long time. They often blow the whistle in anticipation of fouls that may or may not follow. Happened several times tonight where the whistle came just before the contact. Yes they guess, they assume and they have sensitive ego's. LK must do better.

Win or lose no one is going to be happy with the refs. They are not consistent, they are not particularly liked or respected. They fail to earn respect from both teams and coaches. Exception perhaps Melbourne United. Either retrain them or replace them!

I'm a Sixers fan and was there tonight and there was plenty to not like for either team regarding the refs.

Luckily for Adelaide Deng got some last quarter court time and showed his team mates the value of shooting practice. Yes he stepped up and filled the gaping hole from range, his team mates could not. It has been remarked that he is the first to arrive at training and the last to leave , practicing on his own. Well done MD.

Huge games from Creek, Childress, Johnson and Shorter, but without Majak to break up Perth's zone defense from range in the last quarter, their great games would have been wasted.

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Udog  
Years ago

Hopefully Adelaide can stay fit now. Would have liked to see them play Perth in the play offs last year because they looked to have the wood on them. If they meet them this year with a fit roster it will be interesting.

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Udog  
Years ago

And if Sobey finds some shooting form look out.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great game by both teams tonight,refs made few soft calls ,some by Reid,I think he needs his eyes checked.Deng was Sixers best player,if he can get more court time he will improve.Great to see Moore playing.Shorter needs to be a playmaker pass ball around ,he lacks scoring in 3 area,if I was coach I let him do everything except 3s.
We need keep winning ,if we can beat Brisbane and Cairns awesome.Big wins like this ,Sixers will finish top 2 .

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Adelaide have more FT attempts cause they push the ball and create fouls. They probably have 15 more offensive possessions per game.

Suck it up Perth, lose with some dignity tossers.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Felt like every time creek drove to the hoop he got free throws. Perth seemed to be in chill mode the whole time (besides the 3rdQ) lacked the desire. 12 more FTAs for Adelaide is suspect especially when Perth had 11 more shots in the game. Fairplay to Deng, he stepped up when it mattered most.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Adelaide have more FT attempts cause they push the ball and create fouls. They probably have 15 more offensive possessions per game."

Adelaide were definitely more attacking, but at least 4 times they went to the line were from pretty soft calls imo

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Vic Wildcat  
Years ago

Ref blaming is a cop out, players make as many mistakes as refs, but most supporters are blind to their teams mistakes and look to blame someone else, happens in all sports, we played one decent quarter the third in all honesty, you won't win doing that against anyone, let alone a decent team like Adelaide.

Still i'm happy where we are at right now, same time last year we were struggling. Right now it's a pretty even season, so getting home court in the finals will be huge this year.

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KET  
Years ago

Great win by Adelaide - what a game!

Cotton is a brilliant player, I'm surprised he didn’t take more shots given he was on fire from the arc. He doesn’t seem like a 'shoot only smart shots and gets a high percentage’ shooter, he seems more like a ‘shoot wherever whenever and gets a high percentage’ player. He should have kept shooting and driving until he missed a few in a row - particularly down the stretch where someone from Perth had to take the bull by the horns. Instead he drew in players and passed out for a player (Martin) to miss wide open three after three. Ordinarily a great move but down the stretch you’re the one on fire you’re the one who has to do it.

Sobey needs to refocus himself he’s a mess at the moment. He’s not a spark on D he’s travelling, losing the ball, missing shots, not rebounding. Last year he was blocking shots, intercepting passes, grabbing big rebounds, making strong drives to the basket and nailing huge jumpers. He doesn’t seem motivated, he looks more like he wants to sook then anything. It starts with getting back to effort on D, harassing players, igniting turnovers. He does that and he’ll get plenty of drives. As he starts driving hard to the basket he’ll start getting more of the ball, registering points and feeling a swagger, then he’s more likely to start nailing his big jump shots.

Johnson had a great game. Too often he’s an inconsistent player where he either has a huge game nailing threes and midrange shots and fighting in the basket or a quiet game where he doesn’t touch the ball much or do nearly enough. I’d love to see him consistently be dogged in aggression like he was lastnight. He didnt demand too much of the ball, he wasn’t taking lots of threes to have a good game, he was just super effective in driving to the basket when he got the ball and making great cuts when he didn’t to get the pass and layup. It’s not beyond him to average 16-20ppg playing like that each game.

Shorter has been motivated the past two games, he’s our best dribbler and he’s great and beating that trap D. Early on he was making some average passes and taking shots that would get blocked. Last few games he has pushed the ball, made huge layups, made effective passes and taken good shots. Keep doing what you’re doing!

Deng I was shocked he wasn’t put on earlier after he’s good efforts the previous two games against Cairns and NZ. That cameo lastnight was brilliant stuff. He started to ignite v NZ albeit missing the dunk but lastnight he finished that dunk and went bang bang bang from 3. He’s very capable of it, he’s becoming an X factor.

Hodgson has to stop getting stupid fouls. Adelaide can’t afford it! I’m surprised he hasn’t learned his lesson yet.




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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Jack Toft took the trouble to look up and post stats regarding Perth's referee advantage at home. He doesn't need to reproduce them for proof..."

No Ayjay, he does need to if he wants to be taken seriously. He told us all that he went to the trouble of doing some research, then "proved" he was right by saying that he studied stats and maths so he knows what he is talking about, but then followed up by posting Deng's scoring output for the game and made a meaningless comparison to Martin's.

He didn't really do much to show he knows what he is talking about at all.

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Dome Rat  
Years ago

Perth Fans are awesome

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Adelaide fans are dumb

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Fool  
Years ago

And hoops is the winner on both counts

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Udog  
Years ago

Fans are the same everywhere. People in general are dumb. It's a prerequisite infact if you want to be President of the United States these days.

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D2.0  
Years ago

don't enjoy seeing my team lose, but good to see the comp is alive and kicking.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Let's hope Tucker didn't teach Deng any bad habits he still has.

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

"made a meaningless comparison to Martin's."

Not quite, I deliberately chose to compare Deng against the most defensive player on the night.

One could say I caught a worm, put it on a hook and dangled it, but with Perth fans one doesn't really need a worm at all.....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

yeah because look at the massive uproar the Deng-Martin comparison got. whoa!!! everyone really bit big time on that one.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Not quite, I deliberately chose to compare Deng against the most defensive player on the night.

One could say I caught a worm, put it on a hook and dangled it, but with Perth fans one doesn't really need a worm at all....."

Ah, so your advanced statistical knowledge allows you to make absolutely no point at all. Sorry, why exactly are we meant to take you seriously?

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woody  
Years ago

koberulz
Yesterday
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re: Sixers v Cats, Jan 4
I haven't watched a game Homicide's done commentary on since around early to mid December, with the exception of the Wildcats' home game against Brisbane which I attended, and could thus watch without his involvement.


Totally despise the Homicide hate. I wish he commentated every game.

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woody  
Years ago

Guys only thing we need now is Homicide commentating in the Big Bash League Lol.

BBL is fantastic By the Way. Have it on the TV while I am watching the NBL on my MacBook at the same time.

Awesome to see AJ Tye wearing Steph Curry Socks the other day anyone see that?

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If Deng hadn't gone nuts in the 4th Perth would have won easily.

But if Cotton hadn't gone nuts in the 3rd, Perth would have lost by 20.

You can pull out this meaningless shit whenever you like but it doesn't change anything. I thought Adelaide played better on the whole, and it started looking like some individual brilliance was going to take the W away from them, but then some individual brilliance from Deng swung it back in Adelaide's favour. That's sport! Love it.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Love the banter between Perth and Adelaide fans.
Majok Deng well deserved player of the game.

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Udog  
Years ago

Star of the comp in years to come. Big skinny bugger that he is.

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