Anonymous
Years ago

Gaze 3rd Year as Kings Coach

With all the talk about the Kings playing well now that Lisch is back and when the pressure is off their backs and shown reasons to be excited about next season.

Question for all..

Name a professional basketball coach anywhere in the world who finished bottom of the ladder in his 1st season and 2nd bottom the second year that wasn't sack?

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KET  
Years ago

Brett brown?

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koberulz  
Years ago

Name a professional basketball coach anywhere in the world who finished bottom of the ladder in his 1st season and 2nd bottom the second year that wasn't sack?
What does this have to do with Andrew Gaze, who has thus far never finished lower than sixth?

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Dome Rat  
Years ago

Marty Clarke

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I don't know about basketball but there is an afl coach who had dropped further down the ladder in every year of his 5 year tenure and he just got extended for 2 more years

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PeterJohn  
Years ago

There was a guy by the name of Gaze who coached Melbourne Tigers in the NBL. With him coaching, they finished bottom once and second to bottom three times between 1985 and 1988.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Marty Clarke as 36ers coach did even better. Second to bottom in his first season, bottom in his second season and bottom again in his third and final season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Beating Brisbane a few times doesn't count either. That's the only reason they aren't bottom. Place a * against their 2nd bottom spot.

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Captain Jack  
Years ago

nah i wouldnt keep Gaze, if Shawn Dennis is available sign him and get him to bring Venky Jois (who he is coaching in japan) with him

Dont over blow a couple of wins v bottomish teams whom the kings have spent twice as much as on their roster, like they should win these games.

Kings won 13 games last season, are going to win 10 or 11 this season, finish around 7th, I cant see any real progress under Gaze

Recruiting Randle and getting Lisch back has made them look better, but they will look just as good/better under a better coach than gaze anyway, so not a reason to keep him.

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Bear  
Years ago

Yeah, well if Richmond had sacked their coach before last season they may not have won the premiership last year, who knows what would have happened if Gaze had not had injuries to key players and could have settled this team earlier.

Sydney need to keep him, at least for one more season to see if all the pieces can fall into place, then we may be able to better evaluate his performance...

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paul  
Years ago

If the key senior players want him back then I think he should be back.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's not a players option Paul.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lest we forget, he started the season 5-16. They started winning when the pressure was off, Lisch got healthier and the teams they were playing for the most part either were way out of form (Perth x2), didn't really care (NZ) or were the worst in the league (Brisbane x2). A little perspective is needed.

If they keep him, and I believe they will, the number one priority has to be to upgrade the assistants. Another year of Copeland and Kendall isn't going to cut it. If it's Smyth, or Dennis, or whoever - it needs to be someone with runs on the board; someone with proven experience at NBL level. Otherwise be prepared for another losing season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Smyth. NO way. Kerle next? Cal? There are plenty of experienced coaches without going back to the 20th century.

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Pointybits  
Years ago

Gaze never listened to Vickerman so who would like the position of the silent Kings Assistant Coach

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WookieE  
Years ago

Yeah, well if Richmond had sacked their coach before last season they may not have won the premiership last year, who knows what would have happened if Gaze had not had injuries to key players and could have settled this team earlier.

We saw what it was like before Lisch got injured... It was NOT pretty... Part of that was crap recruiting, but also, Gaze had never provided any substance to the fact that he could coach... It's testament to how bad a coach he is that so many people are turning on really one of the nicest guys to play the game in Australia... He needs to go and Dennis needs to come in if the Kings are serious about actually making a difference to next seasons team...


If they keep him, and I believe they will, the number one priority has to be to upgrade the assistants. Another year of Copeland and Kendall isn't going to cut it. If it's Smyth, or Dennis, or whoever - it needs to be someone with runs on the board; someone with proven experience at NBL level. Otherwise be prepared for another losing season.

You mean someone like Dean Vickerman? How did that work out in his first season? Hiring better assistants won't make ANY difference when he didn't listen to a coach that was so much more supremely qualified than him in the first place...

I believe they'll keep him as well, like I have said a hundred times since they signed him, they will NEVER EVER fire the NBL G.O.A.T, especially when he's a mate of JvG...

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SteveK2  
Years ago

At the end of the day, its up to Harvey Lister. Paul probably alluding to the big meeting between Harvey, players, coaches & management to determine his fate. Up to this point, he's been deferring making any decision, waiting to hear the opinions of stakeholders.

I think we've seen enough. More scrutiny needs to be put on those last 6 of 7 wins. Turnaround in Gaze's coaching or is it the quality/issues affecting those opponents? That loss vs United, is that a better indicator of what may happen against real contenders?

Bottom line, Gaze costs a lot of money. Are you getting your money's worth?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Confirmed by Daily Telegraph in print this morning - Gaze's job safe for the 3rd season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And no Steve, the Kings aren't getting their money's worth. He's the highest-paid coach in the league by a significant margin and has a pair of seventh place finishes to show for it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Don't know how effective his presence is in terms of drawing in sponsorship's and crowds etc.
Crowds high despite Gaze being a poor coach and their last few home games were against shithouse line ups.
With the money they are spending on players and coaches, something will give next season. Surely / Hopefully. JVG needs to be accountable too.
Lister is another Hudson it seems.
Despite the Millions of dollars invested they have failed miserably with Gaze at the fore front of that. JVG cupable of course. The ol Tigers brigade need to be ended.

JVG said on the new Kings team that "Sydney deserves the best possible team and we'll aspire to win every possible game we can." Well Sydney got shit.
The only worst side is the NBL funded Bullets.

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