Anonymous
Years ago

Tassie targeted by AFL clubs

The Hobart Chargers have "confirmed that three Melbourne-based clubs had approached him, but would not confirm which ones."
"The ABC understands three major Australian Football League (AFL) clubs have discussed the prospect of forming a partnership with Tasmania to field a team in an expanded NBL.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-22/basketball-alliance-with-afl-possible-for-tasmania/9473860

Interest is high with the Chargers plan of being NBL ready in 3 seasons.
Season one is gone and this SEABL season sees the Chargers ramping up their push to return to the NBL in one more season. That may happen sooner rather than later. Hopefully both parties facing an election on march 3 will finally commit to dragging "the worst basketball facilities in Australia" into the 21st Century.
LK has already stated that if the ownership model is right then everything else that the Chargers are doing is more than acceptable for and NBL entry.
The DEC is basketball ready with a new floor and a capacity of 5000. Previous crowds were about 3000 a long time ago. Games should be played across the state and that may prove a challenge under the AFL model I suspect. Now Tassie basketball is fully behind the NBL push it's time to happen has possibly arrived.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

lots of interesting rumours flying around

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Anonymous  
Years ago

NO rumours there.

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Matt  
Years ago

Why is LK keen on Hobart but let Townsville die and not interested in the Crocs coming back?

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LSA  
Years ago

Realistically a 'cheaper' second tier wouldn't be a bad idea so new clubs didn't have to automatically go hammer n tong.



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koberulz  
Years ago

Why is LK keen on Hobart but let Townsville die and not interested in the Crocs coming back?
Because the Crocs were getting 200 people to games on a good night.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There will be no 2nd 2nd tier side. Not sure where that notion came from.

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Thunder Jam  
Years ago

Kobefool, That's just rubbish. Crocs had to shift stadium due to new ownership doing it up. Kestlerort then stitched them up with all Wednesday,Thursday & Sunday games that nobody want's to got to.

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Haz  
Years ago

The schedule is just an excuse.

When the Crocs returned to the Ent Centre, they could barely get over 1500 on any night. This franchise was basically dead even before they were forced to move to the RSL Stadium, and confirmed dead when they moved back to the Ent Centre in their last season.

Townsville simply gave up on them and LK was in no mood to prop up a small club whose town didn't give a shit about anymore.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sad about the crocs because it's not that long ago they were considered the model franchise of the league that all others looked to for how to do things right. I don't know what went wrong up there but the public seemed to almost turn on them and recovering from that is really hard and probably expensive too.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Australian record for attendances; the Suns sold out their first 69 games at the "Furnace" (capacity 4,141), a streak that was only broken after the venue was expanded for the 1998 season."

RIP Suns/Crocs

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes The Furnace was a mirror image of the DEC in Hobart with a few additions. It seems that for some reason once the stadium expanded the crowds over a period of time declined then declined dramatically.
The move to the RSL was the beginning of the end.

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Kr  
Years ago

THe crocs were averaging 3500 before they were forced to move to a 1500 seat stadium, those extra 2000 plus fans mostly didn't come back. It didn't help that the entertainment centre owners were trying to sell and wouldn't negotiate more affordable lease terms for the crocs. They forced the crocs hand and ended up with no major tenant and now no crocs.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What happened to the Entertinament Centre owners? Busto?

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Anon  
Years ago

The Crocs weren't forced to go to RSL, they chose to because it was cheaper. Their crowds dropped dramatically & while they returned to the swamp (co-owned by the casino & the council), they never recovered.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I recall a falling out with pricing etc with the TTEC? Or what ever acronym they used was?
But pathetic crowds at the RSL venue.
Realistically they were always there abouts and never won a chip, like so many other regional teams.
If the the NBL wants to be a BIG capital city comp the regional teams will never compete. Equally the big City comp is doomed.
No effective salary crap. Oops cap. No enforcement of the over the (no)cap rules is a joke.

With the current rumour of the Hawks folding next year it's only a matter of time before the Taipans are gone.
3 teams in Melbourne? 2 teams in Perth? Nah. Trying to crack the Chinese market will never happen.
Larrys done a great job undoubtedly but he's a flipper and a flopper. He;s wasting his (the NBL's money) on the Bullets. TV deal looming and for 2 seasons in a row (his) Bullets are crap. Crowds are shit and their team is crap x 2 seasons.
The potential is great for the NBL but please Larry try and calm down a bit about your spitball ideas.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

At one stage Crocs were incredibly successful things just got pooped up

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D2.0  
Years ago

You're missing the point.
"LK has already stated that if the ownership model is right then everything else that the Chargers are doing is more than acceptable for and NBL entry."
So allow me to translate:
"Running an NBL team takes very deep pockets, everything else is secondary. So if you can find owners prepared to burn at least $20M (over say 5~10 years) then you can have your own NBL team wherever you want.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That's what I said. You said it differently. The money available for a Tassie team is already there. Maybe even the Government would assist as well.

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D2.0  
Years ago

I highly doubt it, there is very little money in Tassie, period.
Their economy is a basketcase, and if the government was a company it would be done for insolvent trading.

Now in the grand scheme if things, you wouldn't need to be stupendously rich to fund an NBL team. I'm sure there's a fair few Taswegians who could. But how many are crazy enough to blow a large chunk of their Net worth on such a venture?

And keep in mind that there's no real prospect of it ever being self-sustaining. So you need somebody with a long-term commitment to burning money.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tasmanian government spend money on fly in fly out afl teams, could be better served chipping in for there own permanent basketball team..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"I highly doubt it, there is very little money in Tassie, period.
Their economy is a basketcase, and if the government was a company it would be done for insolvent trading."

You probably need to read more:

https://www.commsec.com.au/stateofstates

https://propertyupdate.com.au/tasmania-economy-2017/

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/tasmania-the-star-of-australias-twospeed-economy-20160520-gozf53.html

http://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasmania/tasmanian-economy-on-the-rise-in-the-deloitte-business-outlook-report/news-story/b44e075d0cf369786afdff3a0ddcad05

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why is TAS all of sudden thriving?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tassie government today should announce some basketball funding.
Tassie is the hottest property market in Australia at the moment.
Building being built everywhere in Hobart and many in Launceston as well.
Libs should win the next election on Saturday. Odds were $3.75 early on, to Labor $1.25.
Now Labor on the outer.
D2.0 better do some research as already suggested.
Time for an NBL team I say.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tassie Government if re elected will spend $10,000,000 on a multi sports indoor centre that will become the home of the Chargers.
Together with recurrent funding of $250,000 a year for school clinics across the state.
This is the first time Basketball in Tasmania has hade a serious commitment by any government in many decades.
This should secure the future of the Chargers and hopefully inspire the 11,000 + kids that were in the Chargers clinics last season to play for Tassie in a new NBL team.
The increased participation rates are probably the highest in the country right now and for the first time ever "We are now turning kids away from the sport" said Chargers head Coach Anthony Stewart"

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Paywall article on the Chargers.

THE Hobart Chargers will finally have a place to call home if the Liberals are re-elected at Saturday's State election.
The Government has pledged $10 million to design, plan and construct a multi-sports indoor facility in Glenorchy, which would be used for multiple sports including basketball, netball, gymnastics, volleyball, futsal and martial arts.
Premier Will Hodgman plays some one-on-one with Archie Stewart, 12, of the Kingston Kings after announcing commitment to new multi-sport facility to be built in Glenorchy. Picture: SAM ROSEWARNE
However it is SEABL club Hobart which would be the biggest beneficiary following a boom in participation rates in basketball last year.
The Chargers moved to the Derwent Entertainment Centre last year from the Hobart Netball and Sports Centre at Creek Road, but are still forced to train at New Town High School.
The proposed nine court state-of-the-art centre — likely to be located on the DEC site — would help solve the biggest issue in the sport of inadequate facilities.
"This is huge for all sports, we are in desperate need of facilities down south and in particular with basketball, the increase in participation of numbers has exploded," Chargers coach Anthony Stewart said.
“We are now turning kids away from the sport for the first time.
“It is really important for us as an organisation, we have struggled over the years to get facilities and grow revenue.
“These facilities will allow us to work with Basketball Tasmania to make sure we get basketball on the front foot.”
The investment includes $1 million for consultation and design work in 2018-19, $1 million for planning approvals and site preparations in 2019-20 and $8 million for when construction begins in 2020-21.
A re-elected majority Liberal Government will also continue Basketball Tasmania’s $250,000 funding to deliver school clinics across the state and Netball Tasmania’s $250,000 development funding.
“Increasing participation rates is fantastic but it brings growing pains, we need to provide facilities,” Premier Will Hodgman said.
“The beauty of this is it will be a multipurpose facility as well, it will help cater for the massive increase in participation across a variety of sports and codes.”

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D2.0  
Years ago

So, they're not getting an NBL team?

Even in Taswegia, $10M will barely get you a shed. Certainly nothing remotely suitable for NBL.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I don't get why netball gets the same as basketball (the $250K annual part).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

D.002 you clearly didnt learn your lesson last time you put your foot firmly / easily in you mouth did you.

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UseTaHoop  
Years ago

What about the real news?

By how many points did the 12 year old beat the Premier?

Will the Premier be able to campaign with 2 broken ankles?

Good luck to the Tasmanians. Hand painted frog ties, neatest wood stacks in the world, now possibly an NBL team again. NBL would benefit from getting in before Tassie gets its own AFL team, not just rent a teams from Vic.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tassie will never have an AFL team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anthony Stewart's son made 9/12 from the 3 point line. Will not as many.

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UseTaHoop  
Years ago

Hang on. Did they play 1 on 1 or was it just a 3 point shootout.

Seriously disappointing standard of journalism, misleading the public.

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