Kent Brockman
Years ago

Cairns the wash up.

Can anyone clarify what the argument from Cairns actually is.

1) Shot clock violation points waived off Cairns ball at 90 all with .7 seconds to go

or

2) Points count sixers up 92-90 but Cairns to get the ball at half court after time out for a chance to tie / win with .7 seconds on the clock.

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Isaac  
Years ago

They think the scenario is #1.

If the shot was made on the verge of the shot clock siren, then accounting for time in the air, there wouldn't be 0.7 seconds left. #1 is the only option.

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Kent Brockman  
Years ago

Fox sports are saying that the decision to over ride the last call was made 15 minutes after the game was called.

Another 15 minutes went by trying to work out what to do.

So half an hour after the game was called the sixers were asked to come back

No way that they can reverse the scores or results IMO

Sixers win should stand other wise the lawyers get invloved and Stephon gets richer.

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XY  
Years ago


What doesn't make sense about the whole thing is how the hell did we blow an 8 point lead in last 3 minutes of the game to put Rychart in the position where he is shooting for the match?

The game would be a little less controversial if the Sixers had played out the last 3 minutes with some brains! We (almost!) deserve to lose after letting them run at us like that!

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Isaac  
Years ago

Actually, we were up by 8 with 1:44 left!

Score: 82-90, then... (note, our 92 in the running stats should be 90 I think).

 01:44  TAIPANS - 3pt basket made by [20] G. Boodnikoff  85  92 
01:43 TAIPANS - Assist by [6] M. Cattalini 85 92
01:18 36ERS - Offensive rebound [12] J. Holmes 85 92
01:15 TAIPANS - Defensive rebound [20] G. Boodnikoff 85 92
01:05 TAIPANS - 3pt basket made by [13] D. Mee 88 92
01:01 TAIPANS - Assist by [20] G. Boodnikoff 88 92
00:42 36ERS - Offensive rebound [12] J. Holmes 88 92
00:41 TAIPANS - Defensive rebound [20] G. Boodnikoff 88 92
00:29 TAIPANS - Basket made by [33] M. Thomas 90 92
00:05 36ERS - Basket made by [45] D. Rychart 90 94

Note that there is an extra two points on our score for some reason that was later removed.

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EC  
Years ago

Are you sure that the extra 2 points weren't taken away to not count the buzzer beating 2 points from Rychart? The score only went to 94 after his last shot. In that case the Sixers still win by 2. Isaac, by the running stats I assume you mean the total of individual player scores. I've had this argument time and time again that they often don't tally making it difficult to know exactly what the score is.
If that is not the case, at what point in time did the Sixers' score increase by 2 points with no one having scored those 2 points?

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EC  
Years ago

Having said all this, I think everyone should put this matter to rest and let sleeping dogs lie. The record as it stands at the moment is a win for the Sixers. Lets just leave it at that.

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Mr T  
Years ago

In the paper today it reads that Cairns more want .7 on the clock but say nothing about points not counting. It reads that they saw the clock at '24.6' (according to Maher) therefore if Rychart made the shot withing the 24 second clock then there should still be .6 (.7) on the clock. This isn't the case though. If Rychart let go of the ball the 24 second clock went mid-air they clock still runs till the ball passes through the basket, therefore .7 seconds would've passed in that time.

Who knows what Cairns are complaining about. They lost by a crucial deciding shot, of course they're going to be crying and complaining.

All I can say is thank goodness fox or any other TV station decided to show this game. (note the sarcasm)

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Mr T  
Years ago

The error in the live scoreboard probably occurred when points were cancelled earlier in the game and the scorer was probably too eager and didn't notice?

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Isaac  
Years ago

EC -- I cut an edit out of that paste earlier that made it 90-92.

The extra two could've come from anywhere.

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XY  
Years ago


It gats worse - seems Holmes made two offensive (yes OFFENSIVE) boards in that time - so we must have put up at least five shots and missed them all!

At the other end, Cairns put up three to tie the game. Where was our offensive composure (usually Maher) at the death-knock?

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Jasmine  
Years ago

Kent Brockman...exactly. When you are talking about a dispute about the final play of the game decided 15 minutes after the head ref had already called an end to the game, you cannot be talking getting teams back for OT. At that point you are talking about the NBL offically stating that the decision made by the head ref at the end of the game was incorrect. That's all. The game, rightly or wrongly, is over. It can't be anymore than that.

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Isaac  
Years ago

From Baz on Ozhoops:

I have been told the scorers ddint know if the buzzer had sounded (shot clock) or not, they didnt know.. a decision was then made (not sure what other 2 refs said), everyone left court, about 10 mins after game Scorer and Alan Black come to refs room, scorer says the buzzer actually went off, thats when they asked NBL what could be done and thats how it began to unfold.... THats when the NBL asked them to come back etc.....

thats just a short version of events from a reliable source!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Was the score sheet signed by the umpires?

If it was then I dont think there is much dispute.

If not why did the sixers leave.

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DJ  
Years ago

Cairns want 90 all 0.7 seconds on the clock dusty's shot to be waved away for violation - 24.7 when sixers got possesion - 24 second violation leaving 0.7.

As for the 2 point error on NBL scoreboard that was at the 10:42 point mark it was posted in the other thread.

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XY  
Years ago


The NBL official statement makes no mention of the shot clock violation - only the 0.7 left theory. For reasons previously suggested, they were never going to succeed on that one...

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