Anonymous
Years ago

I think it’s OK for Perth fans to be worried now

Team sucks 2-8 out of their last 10 games.

Flex offence has run its course.

Team looks disinterested.

Gleeson doesn't have the answers Sway!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We're beyond worried!

I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed. And also mad.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Saw it over a month ago yet got shot down by everyone for wanting changes.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Said it*

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No, you kept saying "they need a third import." How would a third import have fixed that shitshow tonight?

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Perthworld  
Years ago

I never specifically said third import, just that something needed to be done.

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koberulz  
Years ago

It's too late to be worried now. It's over.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Worried isn't the right word.
If Perth do indeed miss out I hope Gleeson is first to go.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Shocking dereliction of duty by head office, two seasons running.

It sucks but I was right, the club have been exposed - they sat on their hands hoping to ride it out, it's kind of worked since the deadline is nearly here so no doubt some of the blind faithful will take it down their throats.

This just in - Homicide coming to Perth on Sunday!

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Gleeson is only good with funding $$$, never rated him. Hopefully gone which will be a positive from this.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hahaha you said it repeatedly, idiot.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Most coaches onlygood with $$$ it's an arms race, similar to most big sports in the world in most countries.

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KET  
Years ago

Infinite amount of years in a row which Perth have made the finals has created an unbecoming fan base

Relax, Perth are in a good position, and if Perth fans aren't provided with their god given right of a finals berth the world will not - repeat - will not end

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth missing the playoffs is a delicious cake and Whingeworld losing his shit is the icing :)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

KET, I think non-Perth fans are showing a lot more emotion over the potential of them missing finals than we are

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KET  
Years ago

I don't think so

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Isaac  
Years ago

Can't say they didn't spend up in the off-season - Kay and Norton were expensive but smart moves. Maybe too much reliance on Wagstaff and Hire carrying through another year.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

I actually come out looking good from all this as I predicted what would happen at the beginning of the losing streak despite being heavily criticised. The true believers who accepted all the BS from the club will be shattered though, correct.

:)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sorry KET, I am not counting Perthworld as a Perth fan ;-)

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Flop Warning  
Years ago

KET I'm not losing my shit.

Been a member for nrly 2 decades.

I think we will make finals still. Don't deserve too. But still think we will

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I would cut wag staff and sign a third import . Ironic that Congo would have been a perfect fit. You could start white at the 3 and have Congo backing him and Kay up

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Cats for life  
Years ago

No need for 3rd import, shots ain't dropping, having good looks it's a confidance thing now. Only so much gleeson can do.

They just need a win to get back on track, luckily everyone else keeps losing as well.

Was at the game tonight, no air con and my wife and 5 year old getting abused for wearing a wildcats Jersey absolutely disgusting. Calling 36ers tomorrow.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

No EFTPOS, no PG AND no air con?

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JR  
Years ago

Hey it's flogging a dead horse but I agree with @Perthworld here and did from day 1. Maybe a third import doesn’t change anything but you don’t think it’s worth rolling the dice right now?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think members and non-members need to boycott attending the game. The numbers drop to 8000 and management (and maybe the AFK owner) will take notice.

Gleeson too sentimental , too close to his team. Everyone could of seen a clean out was due last year and instead you got the old crew still on the bench.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I don't think it will change the current issues but I suppose it would be nice to have an import that dunks a few times a game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Case in point they drop walker over Hire ? Walker still better.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

32 SEASONS. How good is that

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I agree with the boycott, anon. I will be boycotting on Sunday too

PS where do you sit? Just wondering if you're seats are better than mine.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No air con and no eftpos? Why are you suprised it is Adelaide after all a city of hicks, inbreds and low life riff raff

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Your welcome to get closer seats - better view of the loss thats likely coming.

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JR  
Years ago

"I never specifically said third import, just that something needed to be done."

You may as well say it. It's not like they are going to pick up Simmons, Bolden, Dellavedova, Mills, etc.. other than another import what option do they legitimately have? I would go a real nasty 4 man about 6’9 in size with length and athleticism who can shoot the 3 and handle and defend the 5 spot for 5-10 mins a contest. Bring him off the bench to play with the we one unit for the next 2-3 games the start:

Cotton, White, Kay, New import and Brandt. Can pound inside the smaller teams and play run n gun with the speedier teams like Adelaide. A Josh Childress type would be perfect

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Hogwash  
Years ago

What Cat's for life said is disappointing. I wouldn't be happy if my wife or children were treated like that.

Being an expat kiwi I took them over to Auckland and we were treated well by Breakers fans despite being in our Wildcats gear.


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JR  
Years ago

* with the second unit for the typo :)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Josh Childress is not fixing the slop that was served up tonight.

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Big Ads  
Years ago

I'm disappointed too CFL. There were a row of empty seats in front of me and with a good view. I would have invited you up if I had seen your post during the game. You would not have been abused.

Re A/C, I believe it is the original evaporative system, works ok on hot dry days but not so well on days like today.

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JR  
Years ago

#981 maybe nit but he isn't available.. that type of player and it may not make difference but right now it’s like they are at the casino, started with $500, were up $1000 but are down to their last $50. Worth a long shot straight up on the roulette table and maybe a miracle turnaround because if they stand pat it isn’t happening.

Funny thing is Wagstaff in an interview during the week (for his 300th) said in Dec 2016 the Cats were way down the standings and won the Championship- he forgot to mention they right then picked up a great import (Cotton) who just happened to be the difference. 45 points in game 3 of the grand finals was one hell of a difference as well as the fact he got them there.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cotton? Looks like mothballs.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

This thread is about Perth potentially missing playoffs I think it will go into meltdown if Perth officially miss them.

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JR  
Years ago

And potentially 97% chance they miss it because another on this forum said it and I agree

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm shocked Cats for Life!

I didn't think you were old enough to be married and have a 5 year old of your own.

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Cats for life  
Years ago

^^^ I'm shocked you're a cock head

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proud  
Years ago

Ok as atrocious as the Wildcats are playing and bloody oath they certainly are, that doesn't mean that we as fans and members shouldn't go absolutely ballistic the whole game vs Melbourne... we have a right to be angry as we all pay for overpriced seats with overpriced beverages and food... but we normally get to see a win.

That's not the case right now and we aren't getting value for money. For those wondering about the Taipans game; we are never loud vs them as there is too many ex Wildcats in that squad and we were basically moaning with the occasional laughter until the last couple of minutes of the game when it got closer.

We should be doing better than that and if Wildcats still suck, then a boycott is an idea.

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Udog  
Years ago

I hope Gleeson stays because he's crap. He inherited a championship team and had his success from Bevos creation. He was lucky the 36ers lost to Bevos Hawks a few years back when they had Randle too.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ah no, he inherited the remains of a team which had last won a title four years earlier, and immediately got a title out of them, then two more in the next three seasons.

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koberulz  
Years ago

Two of those years they lost stars to season-ending injuries, the third they got within something like five points of the championship. They were never far off.

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UseTaHoop  
Years ago

"Can't say they didn't spend up in the off-season - Kay and Norton were expensive but smart moves. Maybe too much reliance on Wagstaff and Hire carrying through another year."

I think Isaac's right there.

We can’t know for sure, but I think Wildcats management decided to make those 2 the “big spend” for season 2018/19. I suspect that coaching staff entered the season knowing that there would be no more funds available to buy new players during the season.

Kay and Norton are an investment for the future, but the ageing bench contributors haven’t been able to get enough done. Perth looked good in early season, but struggling now others have topped up.

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WookieE  
Years ago

Yeah, I don't think that you can fault where Perth have spent their cash this season... Norton, Kay and Cotton, it's just that their support staff hasn't really been up to scratch...

Silver lining, at least next season we might get to see what it's like with Matty as a head coach? And it might be good for Cats fans to have an off season and have their playoff streak end... start fresh, test the team a bit and see what they can do...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agree with UTH, and it's another reason why Perthworld's repetitive monotony should be disregarded. He demands Perth be a championship favourites every year and will throw his toys out of the cot if he doesnt get his own way.

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UseTaHoop  
Years ago

Further to Kay & Norton being future investments:
what length are their contracts;
when are Jarvis, Wagstaf and Vague out of contract? We can't know what $ they’re on, but that figure will be free when they’re off contract.

Is Martin continuing, and if so does his contract include a set payment for next season?
If he’s off contract, he’d still be worth keeping for veteran leadership and reduced minutes, and might be amenable to earning a lesser amount that would be included in the lowest 5 salaries. Again, this would free up $ for an improved roster next season.

With Phoenix in next season, Perth could be in a very good position if Kay and Norton are signed for a few seasons, because Australian talent will be harder and more expensive to sign.

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UseTaHoop  
Years ago

"Agree with UTH"

I might have to change my id to UseTaHooper. Then I can really be just 1 UTHer opinion. Cause that's all we are.

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Isaac  
Years ago

With no cap, why would they cry poor? They've had monster crowds and charged up for tickets. They'd have serious profits from recent years.

I think they've sat on their hands for reasons other than budget. I imagine the thinking is that an incoming import isn't going to take minutes from Kay, Norton, Cotton, White, Martin, maybe Brandt. So what role would they have available? A lot of modern basketball is having a well-drilled roster that knows the plays inside out. You'd be betting against Wagstaff and Hire who would know their plays as well as anyone - that's been a part of their success over the years. Whatever a new scorer brings, they may undo with rocking the boat or missing defensive assignments.

I'd say they're erring on the side of "we can turn this around with incremental changes" rather than a bigger gamble.

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

Party outside Brisbane Convention and Entertainment Centre when Perth fails to make playoffs. DJ Manu taking requests.

So far I've got:

David Bowie -- Dancing in the streets
Kool & the gang -- Celebration

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AD  
Years ago

Regrettably I'm another that has been proven correct. Worrying signs have been there for some time.

As for those trotting out the same old piffle "3rd import wouldn't have made a difference" kindly just stop typing and smack yourself upside the head.

Last night wasn't a bad game. And if it was just a matter of dropping a road game to Adelaide, amongst a sea of victories, there wouldn't be a problem. Problem is, that was our Best game for some time.

The problem is that we have so many guys playing injured, and our backups just aren't there.
3rd import? With Kay and Brandt injured, Jervis struggling, and Wagstaff checking out Retirement Villages, you think a decent big would go astray?

I just hope we can maintain the streak.

I wonder if perhaps Perth Management were caught by surprise by their early success? Because it seems that all along they have treated this as a rebuilding year.

I don't understand why people are calling for Gleeson's head?
If we can resign the guys we want on limited dollars and free up some salary for 2 more decent imports, we're looking very good for next season. Especially if me get the right Next-Star player, and decent DP.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

The streak ending would hit the budget they're so worried about. Would be quite apt IMO.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Wagstaff checking out Retirement Villages


He might look close to done but Wagstaff has no intention of retiring anytime soon. In an interview for his 300th game on the NBL's website he said he's only 32 even though a lot of people assume he's older and he intends to play for a few more years yet.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

good news for Cairns since they seem to love dumpster diving outside the cats office

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perthworld's ongoing ability to only look at one point of view (his) while not applying any sort of critical thinking is astounding.

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Senator11  
Years ago

@ Cats for life, that sucks, but I'm not surprised. I lived in Adelaide for 2 years and haven't never experienced as much racism as I did over there. I remember going to an Eagles vs Power game and Eagles won, as I was leaving some dude said to me, "what would you know about football anyway, you're Asian". One of many experiences over there compared to a relatively racist free life time here in Perth.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Come on now, let's not pretend that any city in Australia is more racist than others. Racism exists everywhere, thankfully you have avoided it in Perth, but your experience doesn't mean Adelaide is more racist than Perth.

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Senator11  
Years ago

Never said Adelaide was MORE racist than Perth, said it's the place I've personally experienced the most racism. Shame that it happened, otherwise my experience in Adelaide was fantastic.

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Senator11  
Years ago

Back on topic...we should be very worried, especially if no brutal changes are made prior to next season.

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@Manu, maybe add "Dead Cat x3" by Grinspoon to your playlist...

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

Chairman, great find. The fact that it's a terrible song makes it even better for this purpose

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gleeson is making his own playlist starting with this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-dDM37Cf8

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UseTaHoop  
Years ago

Manu

Stray cat strut by Stray Cats
Stray cat blues by Rolling Stones
The little things in life (the Dead Cat Song) by Kennedy's kitchen

Or could you edit London Wainwright III’s classic "Dead skunk in the middle of the road"? (“And it’s stinking to high heaven”).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

*googles every song title that mentions cats*

I love jokes!

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Zodiac  
Years ago

good news for Cairns since they seem to love dumpster diving outside the cats office


Actually I think the reasoning behind coming out and saying that publicly serves dual purposes in silencing some in the fan base calling for him to retire and also putting pressure on the Wildcats to keep him around a bit longer so he retires a one club player.

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

UseTaHoop, that's beautiful. Added to the list.

Also thinking of the classic 'Cats in the cradle no more silver spoon'

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Even if we scrape in fourth spot we won't make impact in finals.
A cleanout is necessary.

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Rabbit70  
Years ago

Well, I heard Wildcats will be chasing Terrico, Cotton, and Devondrick Drew for 2019/2020.

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AngusH  
Years ago

I still remember being slammed on here for having the audacity to claim that the Wildcats had had a pretty easy run of games while they had their injury troubles.

In hindsight its bizarre how different those Wildcats teams looked while missing key guys, regardless of who they played against.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cats Australian contingent would be on reasonable coin, Brandt, Kay, Norton, Martin, Wagstaff, plus Cotton and White and that's a fair pay bill. Kay would be on import dollars, that doesn’t leave much for an other import.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

I got the impression of Joey Wright being a Terrico White fan.......

usually you worry about refs only

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UseTaHoop  
Years ago

"*googles every song title that mentions cats

I love jokes!"

Actually the only song from the google search was by Kennedy's kitchen. It sounds lame. I was pretty confident that the Dead Kennedy’s would have a song about dead cats, but alas. The others are all classics, but I like the idea of “a dead cat, lying in the middle of the road/ and it’s stinking to high heaven.”

BTW London Wainwright III performed a couple times on MASH, and is Rufus and Martha’s Dad.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

I love Bob Dylan ' Cat's in the well '
( and Catfish )

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UseTaHoop  
Years ago

Wasn't there a song "The year of the cat" in the 70s???

Or was it just a line from a song??

That’d be good for irony value

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Actually I'm pretty sure there is a song that is about a cat, or mentions a cat or has a word in it that rhymes with cat. Use that one, and then just change some more lyrics around and man oh man that will be funny as hell.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Wasn't there a song "The year of the cat" in the 70s???"

it's by al stewart and year of the cat is the name. don't get it mixed up with year of the flamin' useless cats by alf stewart.

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jimjimthedogboy  
Years ago

He might look close to done but Wagstaff has no intention of retiring anytime soon. In an interview for his 300th game on the NBL's website he said he's only 32 even though a lot of people assume he's older and he intends to play for a few more years yet.


Did he mention any intent to play this season?

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AussiePride  
Years ago

"it's by al stewart and year of the cat is the name. don't get it mixed up with year of the flamin' useless cats by alf stewart."

LOL

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Pointybits  
Years ago

Kay & Norton were a bargain at 150k a head. Considering the 9/10000 bums on seats Perth have the resources to throw more than enough cash to secure almost anyone they like.
We all love Cotton but like all super stars from the USA scouting reports are limiting him unlike any previous season
Wagstaff in a Boomers Jersey under Leumanis played well. Can only guess why he underperforms under Gleeson's direction. Hire is yesterday.
As Hawks supporter we can, along with Cairns only lament our financial inadequacies and pray that both teams will turn up each year. You should too instead of navel gazzing .

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Udog  
Years ago

Adelaide and Brisbane are definately the 2 form teams. The Wildcats are seriously looking over their own shoulders with very twitchy ring holes right now.

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