justwondering
Years ago
Scenario: approx. 20secs left on clock. Both teams on 4 fouls. 1 point game.Team A has pass in from base line. Ball is in play when Team B get foul. Team A go to the foul line but....clock hasnt started since throw in from baseline. What is the correct procedure then? And what article does it come under?
clock starts from the time the ball is touched in court. If no one has touched it and someone fouls off the ball, then the 20secs still remains.
Kent Brockman
Years ago
You used to be able to foul the inbound passer and get a tech which was only 2 shots( which you would do anyway as soon as the ball was inbounded if you are down)
That way you could get the opp on the foul line without any time coming off the clock at all and plus the inbounder was usually the worse shooter who was trying to be protected.
FIBA had to change the rule to give 2 and possesion to stop the inbounder getting whacked.
VC fan
Years ago
you have to realise that the clock may have been stopped just as it clicked onto the 20, meaning it has almost a second of live time before it will change to 19.
#86216 was right, the clock starts when the ball is touched by a player on the court so technically, the opponent could have had almost a second to foul between the time the player caught the ball and the time the clock changed.
Plus depending on what level this was, scorers aren't always going to be perfect.
justwondering
Years ago
The clock wasnt started by the bench.The play went on but the clock didnt. So no time on the clock had elapsed between throw in and foul. So is it general consensus that the play that occured eg the foul and shots should have happened and not been seen as a correctable error. What ever happens in the play counts even though the clock is still stopped? So scores count and fouls count?.......and there is still 20secs left...ok...
Phizzer
Years ago
There are only a certain number of 'correctable errors', mostly concerning incorrect number of foul shots awarded, wrong team inbounding, foul penalty not awarded, not in respect to time keeping errors.
In non-professional games, especially juniors with parents doing clock, you can't expect officials to watch clock and determined if it started or not. However, if error is realised, they can set clock to appropriate amount of time (say 17 seconds or whatever) but they can't erase foul and foul shots.
not starting the clock isn't a correctable error, only time that point etc doesn't count if the clock is stopped on a made basket and the signal is sounded for a time out but the refs do not respond, the clock hasn't started so play hasn't happened. but if the clock is not started in error tough luck. points etc, fouls etc count who wants to be a timekeeper these days?
Mott the Hoople
Years ago
I'm not a ref, but aren't all calls made by refs correctable, if a mistake has been made and they realise it?
no mott
correctable errors relate to the awarding of the wrong amount of foul shots, ie giving one when there should be two
not giving fouls shots
giving the wrong player shots
all are correctable but only within a given time after that it is too late.
other than that its a mistake and besides someone not starting the clock is not a refs call
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