When you say review of players can you be more specific?

- Do you mean something that points out player's individual strengths and weaknesses and areas they need to develop?
AND/OR
- Do you mean general strengths and weaknesses of all players in the age group?
- What points of difference would exist between reviews from state coaches and club coaches of the same players? IE Wouldn't they be about the same?
- Would you do it for players that made the 10 or how many players would you do it for?
- Out of interest, what club are you from?
- How do you see reviews of interstate talent helping coaches here?
- I know alot of scouting of other state teams goes on but would this help club coaches?
- if you dont want to say what club, what age group?

- Do you mean something that points out player's individual strengths and weaknesses and areas they need to develop?

Not really

AND/OR
- Do you mean general strengths and weaknesses of all players in the age group?

Yes

- What points of difference would exist between reviews from state coaches and club coaches of the same players? IE Wouldn't they be about the same?

Could well be different if state coach is looking for something specific and club coach needs a different role filled.

- Would you do it for players that made the 10 or how many players would you do it for?

Only for the 10.

- Out of interest, what club are you from?

No comment

- How do you see reviews of interstate talent helping coaches here?

You know what you're up against. You may help a fringe player make the team.

- I know alot of scouting of other state teams goes on but would this help club coaches?

Yes. If state coach says SA lacked a certain skill set and you have players that could fill that role, wouldn't that be a good tool to motivate the kid to develop on their own time?

- if you dont want to say what club, what age group?

U/16

When I was involved with State as an asst coach they ran trainings every Saturday for 12 weeks before the state trials. There was about fifty kids from all clubs. It helped us work on the individual skills that we were looking for in a state player and gave kids from weaker clubs the chance to train against better players. Do they still do that?

State Coaches are required to submit a report to the junior committee. This involves the general strengths and weaknesses of the the age group.

The State Coaching Director also distributes a copy of the National ITC Coaches assesment of State strengths and weaknesses to Coaching Directors.

The porblem is that some clubs and coaches disregard these assesments because they do not conform to their own philosophies.

Specificall that some players are only able to play zone defence and not pressure man to man. And that players are not able to play the position at international level because they are not milti-skilled.

One key requirement might be not to refer to players as " my (insert club here) girls/boys".
I can't imagine a worse scenario that having players pre trial for 12 weeks before their real trials of another 10 weeks before the group who make it continue for another 6 or so weeks.
If you don't play for Sturt , Norwood , forestville or Sturt your chances of making state are slender so perhaps a state coach's responsibility should be to actually be able to talent spot kids not wearing the right club uniforms.
I also think asst. coaches should be appointed by an independent person as opposed to the system we have where the state coach appoints his number 2 and 3 might help equal out selections. I also would like to see the rotation of state coaches every two years.

Actually George it is the responsibilty of the clubs to develop players to the standard that is required to compete at a National level.

If they don't foster a similar philosophy to that of the National ITC, SASI and State Coach then the clubs are to blame.

If they were producing better players they would have teams that are successful.

Otherwise, are you sugesting that the teams that are top should have less players make the team over teams who are bottom?

DoddoBird is referring to what I think used to be called SASI Satellite trainings. Do these still go on? Are they still called that name?

134464 , some players do get feedback some do not. Generally the closer you are to making it the more feedback you will get. Are you suggesting all the 100s of players in an age group get feedback from the state coach?

anon #134464

Again that is the responsibiliety of the clubs.

All clubs caoching directors get feedback. If they choose to use it, is all together anyother issue.

Junior, are you sure all coaching directors get feedback?

If you club delegate doesn't hand on the State report from the State Coach, that can hardly be the Staet coaches fault now can it.

As a country person - I am aware that after the Country Cup in Albury all the players associations (not District clubs)and DNSP Coaches are given written (and verbal where requested) feedback on all of their players. This will also occur after Nationals. I also know that where deficits are identified, they are fed back to the associations/DNSP and they are given directives on how to rectify them. If a district club is after feedback on their Country players, I am sure that if you go to the SA Country website and get their DM's info, he would be more than happy to help you out!

Junior, perhaps what is supposed to happen and should happen ends up being optional. The checks and balances that keep planes flying seem missing from BSA and might be the reason it appears grounded.
My experiences suggest, cut kids get a brief 'this is why' from the coach and in some cases it appears to bear but a distant relationship to the reasons they were cut.
Written comments would certainly give players players the opportunity to rise to the challenges set or contest their authenticity.
Bella, if what you say is so, your ahead of the pack.