Melvin Corpuscle
Years ago
If ANYONE on the team gets paid, your team is considered "professional", so you are ineligible to play Div1 NCAA (and maybe div 2?). This is why a few ABA clubs have signed declarations of "amateur" status - indicating all players play for free ...
ANON12
Years ago
From what I can understand only the AIS team is seen by the NCAA as being amateur. That is why the majority of Aussie players in the NCAA teams are graduates of the AIS. It would appear that other players that have gone to play for NCAA teams have never played at ABA/SEABL level. I do not believe that a player for instance who played for the North Adelaide Rockets would be eligible because Dusty plays for them - which makes anyone ineligible under NCAA rules because the team is perceived to be professional or semi professional.
Paul
Years ago
Things have changed in terms of this. It is correct if you play in a team that no one gets paid (ABA or local league) you can go to college. If people get paid you need to sit out the number of years you have played in that team. e.g If you play two years in a paid team you cannot play for your first two years of college.
person of high knowledge
Years ago
Its not years, it's games !! and this has always been the case. Hence why Basketball Australia advise not to play ABA. If you have played 20 games in a professional team, or a team with a professional player, then if you get a college gig you have to sit out the 20 games. In the College 20 games could be a year and a half, so the more games you play, the more you would have to sit out.
NCAA also distributed a instruction that any game that requires a door entry charge is classified as a professional game. Therefore nearly every kid in Australia, no matter what division is effected by the NCAA rule.
Almost
Years ago
You are right but the door entry thing is only for players returning from college between seasons, ie sanctioned summer leagues rule.
So a junior playing ABA could put a college deal at risk?
Most teams in div 1 play just over 30 games so based o hwat the 'person of high knowledge' says, you would only have to sit out one season not a season and a half and I think if you get red-shirted that year you can still get to play a full four years. I think.
To ensure all safeguards are met for players maybe considering college....
1) Make sure your ABA mens or womens teams have signed Amateur contracts which allow for reasonable reimbursement of expenses only and NOT match payment amounts;
2) Door entry fee criteria espoused by NCAA seems to get overlooked given the large number of players at colleges even from central ABA teams;
3) Do not allow your child to receive any form of sponsorship or endorsement for their basketball;
4) Take the time to read and RE-read the NCAA website and rule books as a lot of the answers above are NOT fully correct and are misleading!
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/!ut/p/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLN4j3CQXJgFjGpvqRqCKOcAFfj_zcVH1v_QD9gtzQiHJHRUUAc0tpTA!!/delta/base64xml/L3dJdyEvUUd3QndNQSEvNElVRS82XzBfTFU!?CONTENT_URL=http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/enforcement/amateurism/legislation/applicable_legislation
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/!ut/p/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLN4j3CQXJgFjGpvqRqCKOcAFfj_zcVH1v_QD9gtzQiHJHRUUAc0tpTA!!/delta/base64xml/L3dJdyEvUUd3QndNQSEvNElVRS82XzBfTFU!?CONTENT_URL=http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/membership_svcs/eligibility-recruiting/faqs/amateurism_tryouts
http://www.ncaa.org/library/membership/division_i_manual/2007-08/2007-08_d1_manual.pdf
http://www.ncaa.org/library/membership/division_ii_manual/2007-08/2007-08_d2_manual.pdf
DandyBoi
Years ago
This is one of the reasons Big V introduced Youth League as these teams retain their amateur status. A lot of Youth league players end up going to college, and can then come back and play in between seasons as well.
ask chris clausen or ben madgen. on Patrick Mills who played on a national team that is full of pros.
Panther
Years ago
What division does Trent Fildes and John Wernham play in?? Both players played ABL last year.
Hoody
Years ago
AIS is exempt as they dod not play on a pro team. National teams do not apply either.
Panther, they play in the NJCAA. Fildes in div1 and Wornham in div 2 a believe. I also believe they are able to play ABL as long as the contracts are that of amateur status...which i beleive means the players can only be paid to cover their expenses including receipts etc. I think Forestville along with most clubs switched to this form of contract 2 or 3 years ago.
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