Please go away.

Goodbye jerk, people liek you dont need to have internet access.

yea mate shut up

Jacob had a fair old dig at Brad Hill for not passing it to him against the Dragons on the break, even though Hill did pass it to him albeit a little late and Jacob had given up on if the pass was coming or not. Didn't come across to good but I put it down to more of Jacob being around longer helping Hill.

Perhaps the situation you mention could be turned around why didnt Holmes pass it out to Grizzard when the double team came?

Anyways dont think there is alot of merit in discussing this, more off Maher and more on our finals run please!

Why do you guys feel The Brad should go away? Is it because the beloved Holmes is not allowed to be criticised?

If this incident happened The Brad has every right to mention it. Whether it was just out of frustration or because of other reasons, it is fair enough to be mentioned.

I didn't see the incident so I cant really comment on it.

Holmes has been playing much better coming off the bench. The reason why is because when he is in the starting 5 he struggles with offence as he is the last option however when he comes off the bench he has more opportunity to score and play his natural game.

Team mates get heated at each other during the year (hello Setanta)
It's part of the competitive edge of an athelte to get frustrated sometimes when things don't go the way they planned

How many 20 sec looks did MJ give out to his team mates

yeah he is just blowing of some steam, all the players do it in frustration from time to time. You only have to worry about it when its an ongoing thing.

Did you see a few weeks ago - - the look Haines gave Filmer when it had been rumoured he was using his Grecian 2000!!!!!!

The Brad, was that the foul when Forman was scrambling for the loose ball but picked up the foul in the process? Oscar and Jake have a strong rivalry so it might've been that Holmes was just particularly annoyed at being left in that position.

Other than that, might've just been a bit of "that guy's taking my minutes" coming out in the heat of the moment as Jake is very competitive. Spoke to another player after the game (re Grizzard's heat exhaustion) and they said that Rod's been great within the team, at trainings, etc.

It's not unknown for Maher to glare a bit at a team mate. So be it.

Personally I was too busy enjoying the game of basketball to mistake it for an episode of Neighbours.

just another person trying to read things into what is a normal thing, heat passion wanting to win

If Jake upset Grizz, I'm sure a little changing room man hug would have fixed it later.

These things happen ALL the time in a competitive environment.

IF it happened.

Isaac,

I hope that it's just rivalry between Jacob and Oscar?

Would it prevent Oscar coming home to play under Jacob as his Vice Captain?

Surely Oscar would be getting sick of the Fish 'n' chups from the North Auckland chippy by now?

Happens on a lot of teams bloody hell, look at the Aussie Cricket team. I am sure they will get over it.

Grizzard may be doing alright at training but has been shit in most games compared to what he has served up for other clubs in the past. He is not playing to the standard of a class import at the moment. This is the difference between 36ers being top 3 and limping into playoffs. Grizzard's performance in the playoffs will determine his futre with the club not his personality. I hope he does lift as he has shown in the past he can, but he needs to start NOW........

On the other matter, a bit of banter between players is healthly, it shows they care.......

Geez, I actually thought this was a forum, my bad!
People, I have played basketball for 25 years and at a reasonably high level. I have seen and given plenty of looks myself, but nothing like this. If Jacob is as competitive as eveyone has said, then I would not be surprised if he is pissed at Rod coming in and taking his starting spot, even though he hasn't been performing. People...I have watched that new show "Lie to me"...I know what i'm talking about!!!

The Brad,
I look forward to seeing plenty more of those looks on the sidelines at Marion this year!

Anon- surely that is crap!

Yeah that is crap by Anon.... can that post be deleted?

Moderated anon, when I heard something along those lines, it was Farley suggesting that reasoning, nothing by Jacob at all. What's telling there is who has played again for Adelaide and who won't be signed again.

I'm sure Jake might glare at someone or have felt some subconscious resentment of imports taking his starting spot, or maybe preferred other options on offence when Willie wasn't that great in his last season, but there is no way he would explicitly say something that ridiculous.

343, who else would you give the captaincy? Davidson may retire soon, Ballinger isn't that sort of leader and there's no guarantee they can keep Schenscher if he gets strong offers from overseas.

Jack, he is enjoying it in NZ (has bought a house over there) and I don't think he has plans to return soon. I'm sure they would play together again if the situation arose. Sturt have Jacob for the coming season and would have Oscar in there if he wasn't taking this off-season off. They'd probably just fight for rebounds a bit!

Isaac, :(
Would be great to see the Grouch in a Sixers top

Yep I like Bruce, he's good at organising the court setting up plays and seems to be generally making good decisions. Its a pity he won't have Brett mentoring him for a bit longer, but is developing well. Don't see Jake as captain quality.
P.S. Maybe Grizz's concentration was a bit off considering he finished up in hospital with heat exhaustion.
He looked pretty good knocking down those threes.
Hopefully starting to get it all together in time for the playoff.

Unless you wanted to go real short term with Davo. Jacob is the only logical choice. He wont always put up that winning shot like Brett but least he plays with passion and has some idea on defence and systems.
Ballinger as good as he is will never be a leader .
Schens apart from how long stick around . He just doesnt show enough fight out there getting pushed away from the play and getting upset at refs.when doesnt get calls . If schens was to play smarter and tougher then defenitely would be getting huge offers o seas.
Bruce is a long way to being a leader looks much better as back up point guard much more dangerous and less brain fades
We need to get more real passion and determination out there . If you fall short of that then you get yelled at or benched.
How good was Oscar last Sat . He is a greater loss than Inglis to club. There is a future capt.
Him and Newley are the 2 major stuff ups by the bald one

i also agree that bruce is captain material.

Captain at baylor for 4 years and captain of junior national teams. seems to get on great with team mates, speaks very well in interviews and after match. He is a exciting player to watch and one of the most popular players in the team as alot of kids has his jersey around games.

Jacob i think would take it as a slap in the face i think as he has lost his starting spot and now the captaincy that he prob thought he was getting that after the season.

i still think jacob will b captain but i think bruce is a better option