This astounds me.

Try watching Game 3 but just watch Anstey. He gets bumped, grabbed mugged the whole time he's on the floor.

And Goorj gets away with it because he plays the refs like no one ever has.

I'm surprised Ansety took as long as he did to say enough is enough!

I am serious.

And I would expect Luke to end up playing the same way if he sticks around the NBL, which I doubt he will.

Big men get crucified in the NBL by the NBL referees. Anytime there's a size mismatch the smaller guy can do anything he wants. In the case of Anstey and Schench that means getting beaten up every game.

It's not one-sided, I thought Burston got a very raw deal in Game 2. Although I think that has to do with Burston as a player and the lack of respect referees show him rather than him being a big man.

Vukona is easily the dirtiest player in the NBL. Followed by Boucher, Gibson, Worthington and Redhage.

I was thinking the same thing Quasi - there seems to be a lot of criticism against the Tigers here although there was no mention of Worthington's comments prior to the series.

Goorjian coached teams are known for their physicality and constantly bump and hold players - it's his style. Also, it was interesting in game 3 where Goorjian called a timout in the first couple of minutes of the game - he told his players he was just planting a seed in the referees heads. I'm not criticising him for those tactics, but I could imagine what would happen if the other camp said that - there'd be posts dedicated to it.

"At one stage during game 3 Ingles got a lay up on him and Anstey "accidently" elbowed Joe in the head as Joe was trying to get back in court. "

Your opinion. What I saw was Ingles made a bucket turned blind and ran back in a straight line, hitting the side of Anstey on his way. Considering Inglis is built like a toothpic of course he came off second best, doesn't mean Anstey did anything wrong.

"The screen on Carter was malicious as he swung his elbow into him as he made contact which is what Carter reacted to."

Again your opinion. I see 100+ screens no worse then that in a NBL game. Big guy on a guard looks worse then it is. Anstey made sure he hit him, that's the whole purpose of a screen. I know enough about basketball to know that!

"Is he dirty because he wrapped up Anstey when he landed in his space after he just watched him try and decapitate his team mate?"

My opinion of Vukona has nothing to do with that. He grabs, pushes, elbows his man constantly I can't believe anyone would defend Vukona's style of defence and rebounding.

On that incident, did you happen to see the look on Vukona's face? He wanted to do more then hold Anstey back or get in his face. In my opinion Anstey would have left the game on a stretcher if Vukona wasn't held back by team-mates.

IMO your opinion of Anstey is clouding your judgement.

I don't dislike either team or any of the players involved.

Just watched the replay of the Ingles basket and I stand by what I said. I do not believe Anstey is any more or less to blame for the contact than Ingles.

"That screen was legal until Anstey swung his elbows into Carters back once contact had been made. If you cant see that from the replay then the saying never argue with an idiot applies here."

I never suggested the Anstey screen was legal. I'm saying that it happens all game every game in the NBL.

If you watch Aylen in the background you'll see him give the contact a thumbs up. That is what started the incident, a failure of the best referee in this country to make a simple call.

If Luke had done everything Anstey did would you be suggesting he get suspended or arguing that Luke simply snapped after being beaten up for too long.

Goorj and the style Goorj teams are allowed to play are killing the game in this country. People don't enjoy watching it, and don't!

It isn't successful outside of this country because international referees simply don't allow it. Goorj and the style of 'defence' and games he actively plays with the referees of this country (as was picked up on the Fox coverage) are IMO a disgrace and he's who should be wearing some of the blame for what ended up happening.