Years ago

Are SA Juniors Shunning College Basketball?

During the past 10 years it has become more and more clear to me that South Australia has increasingly less juniors applying and going to college in America. There are plenty oppurtunities out there even for less talented players to go to lower division colleges and as i have seen players from other states aim towards their goal of going to the USA, SA hardly have anyone at ALL!!!! Why is this???
To me this is because the coaches in SA dont take pride in junior players success, they are too caught up in how good they look if their team does well and as a junior coach it is your job to develope junior players for the future not to put them down so much that a large percentage of juniors quit..Start growing up and actually help your juniors achieve something special, coaches you have had your turn, now its your turn to pass your knowledge down to the younger ones to help them achieve great things.

Topic #20167 | Report this topic

Years ago

Is there any evidence of this at all? A good number of SA players have even skipped college and made the NBL or gone further in recent years, including Newley, Ingles, Holmes, Forman, Hill, Ng.

A quick look around suggests these as a few SA players who are at college or have been recently, and there might be more: Ben Madgen. Josh Wood. Emma Langford. Jess McPhail. Nicole Romeo. Max Papendieck. Lauren Mansfield. Tara Robinson. Trent Fildes.

And what's stopping others from going? You say it's coaches, but could it not be simply personal choice?

Ten years ago, you say there were more - such as?

Reply #239639 | Report this post

Years ago

please do not say there is a sufficient amount of players from SA going to college. you mension a few names, however go to another state and see how many players thay have going to college. there are even div 2 and div 3 players from other states who are going to lower division colleges. Also as someone who was involved in SA junior basketball the college option is hardly even mentioned to juniors these days, you also say that many SA juniors have achieved a lot by not goin to college such as NBL, well NBL isnt a very high level compared to good colleges and the players such as newley etc. that you have mentioned how do you know they might have not achieved better if they went to college?????????

Reply #239640 | Report this post

Years ago

SA comprises about 7-8% of the population of Australia. There might be around 160 Australian players in US colleges. Given that, you might expect 12 SA players in colleges. I've listed 9 above and there might be more names that I don't recognise on the lists, plus guys like Paget who I think had something lined up, and McMath/Molitor/Clausen/etc who might've been or are going in the near future.

Ultimately, surely it comes down to the players. If they make the decision not to go, that's their choice. Someone like Dodman could've got a spot you'd guess, but didn't last at the AIS and has moved on from the sport - likely as much a personal decision or work ethic as anything else as coaches gave him chances to prove himself at higher levels.

Who cares whether they might've achieved more from the college path? That's their decision. A few years back, my brother chose the NBL over a college offer and I don't imagine he's dissatisfied with his decision.

Reply #239648 | Report this post

Years ago

i dare you to go around and survey an amount of u/18 players in SA and see how many of them think college is an option??? then ask that if it was would they work towards going over there, then see the results.

Reply #239651 | Report this post

Years ago

Junior, if players are not going to college it has more to do with wasting their time rather than coaches talking them out of it.
Basketball is small beer and unless you get a scholarship to a div 1 college , why bother?
As Romeo found, college aint all its cracked up to be.
Your question should have been why are juniors shunning basketball because that's the real issue. Drop outs are climbing and several established clubs are on the skids junior wise preferring to prop up the seniors in the ABL.
The faces in sixers crowds are getting older and not enough is being done to grow an audience for NBL. A few years hence it wont be SOS the sixers, it will be SOS basketball.

Reply #239654 | Report this post

Years ago

junior i take it that you believe that the ultimate goal of coaching should be development of the player? if so should a coach at an average club encourage their players to move to a better club or better coach if that was in their best interest?

Reply #239655 | Report this post

Years ago

Junior, mate!! Come on.. How is it the coaches faults? Its a players decision. you also have to be good enough my friend.

And if you are comparing SA to a state like Victoria then no wonder you are so up tight about it.. The facts are Vic Metro's best 25 players would all make SA Country's state teams. Same with vic Country's best 15-20.. This would also be the same with the SA Metro sides. That is why a larger amount of Vic players head over due to a bigger talent pool.

Also, US Colleges dont just wanna bring over international Guards for no reason. There are plenty of talented 5'10" guards all across Australia, but there are millions in the states. So you need to bring something very special to the team if they are gunna put in extra effort and pick you over a local they can just go and scout at High School. (im not saying you as in junior)

Reply #239656 | Report this post

Years ago

Junior, why would these kids want to leave their home, family and friends to get substandard education for 2-3yrs to play at level that is below the ABL.

Fair enough if they are good enough to go Div 1/2 NCAA school then go for it but I can understand why many choose not to go to community college or NAIA.

US Basketball isn't the be all and all and I think that many realise this including those in the US system. A poor continuity in their pathway and poor coaching at the AAU level means that most of their kids really dont start till they are at college/snr HS. MOst get by on athleticsm alone.

Reply #239662 | Report this post

Years ago

You can check this website to see who is playing ball in the states: http://linky.com.au/h8py8

Reply #239679 | Report this post

Years ago

Parents if your kid has athletic ability steer them towards footy or netball.

Reply #239687 | Report this post

Years ago

Umm yea great way to see the world, get a free education, play olympics, play for millions in Europe. Umm play footy good one.

Reply #239694 | Report this post

Years ago

ok so anon's comment about footy might have merit - there are hundreds of medicore footballers in the AFL - its much easier to make the grade as a "professional" sporsperson in the afl than in RL, RU, Football or NBL. Now netball - the cash is poor, the travel opportunities poor, the profile for all but very few very limited. Got a talented female athlete - choose basketball if its team sport you are into.

Reply #239700 | Report this post


Reply to this topic

Random name suggestion for anonymous posters: Pallas 80

Rules:You must read the Terms of Use. No spam, no offensive material, no sniping at other clubs, no 'who cares?'-type comments, no naming or bashing under 18 players. Learn how to embed YouTube videos or tweets

Please proof-read your post before submitting as you will not be able to edit it afterwards.

Close ads
Dunk.com.au - Custom basketball uniforms
Beam Orders - a quick, simple order and payments site for your business.
Punch - insightful time tracking

Advertise on Hoops to a very focused, local and sports-keen audience. Email for rates and options.

Recent Posts


An Australian basketball forum covering NBL, WNBL, ABL, Juniors plus NBA, WNBA, NZ, Europe, etc | Forum time is: 9:44 am, Sat 23 Jan 2021 | Posts: 856,268 | Last 7 days: 1,146