money honey
Years ago
All the wise old owls out there
welcome any suggestions as to the key indicators of a successful club - and key points to get right
certainly junior dev is high but how do you recognise program working and is it just about win ' loss
fiancial stability / revenue stream
own stadium
teams/ player numbers
coaching credentials
LC
Years ago
It all depends on what is deemed to be successful? What is important to your members and your club?
Start with working out what your club deems and impoprtant and then start working it out from there.
Indicators could cover areas such as:
- Financial Eg. Profit/Loss, revenue growth etc
- Particpation rates Eg. No. players, growth etc
- Player Retention rates
- No. of elite teams
- On court success Eg. premierships
- Junior to senior transition
- Coach attraction, development, retention, growth etc
Hope this helps.
Norwood seem to have fallen off the junior wagon in the girls in particular, while Woodville girls have done very well over the past couple of years which means they are on the right track. Souths are on the mend but alarmingly Southern have not chosen development rather a 'recruiting in' mentality.
Junior coaching directors is the big must for any club because juniors are the backbone.
old and gray
Years ago
Successful junior clubs over the long term ( 8-12 years) are those that recognise that good coaches are harder to find than good players, and that good age / team co-coordinators are FAR harder to find than bad parents.
Good coaches develop good players, have these coaches at the u10 and u12 level and you have it made. Because then your u14 players actually attract better coaches and the cycle perpetuates.
As soon as you let a parent coach their own child , or allow coaches to follow "their" players up an age group, you are now on the downward slope.
good coaches do not want to do administrative stuff - recruit good managers who will do that for them - and you can attract and keep the coaches.
Virulently Protect both from the over enthusiastic parent .(NB if every few seasons the club kicks a "good" player out because of their parents, you will then find the other parents pull their head in - losing one player and a pair of disruptive parents is actually GREAT for the rest of the club)
Melbourne tigers had a great junior program for years, their head u12 coach for years was one of the most experienced senior coaches in the state - Ken Watson.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
Years ago
Question. Do any clubs look at trying to (for the lack of a better word) steal any coaches from the stronger clubs. For example, a division 2 coach from Sturt, Forestville, North going to a less strong clubs division 1 spot.
I think there are a lot of good coaches out there stuck coaching division 2 because their club already has enough strong division 1 coaches.
(I'm just an oustside observer, not a disgruntled division 2 coach).
Measurable rate of improvement.
- Players in Australian Pathway programs
- Div 1 / 2 teams into the finals
- Growth rates - numbers
- Coaches qualifications.L1/2, playing/coaching background, SASI State involvement, success etc. etc.
- Returning Coaches from previous yr
Then measure the activities. This can be a little difficult as it isnt black and white. IE how hard are your Coaching Directors / Coaches actually working. What programs, processes are they putting place to get improvement. Are they building good working relationships with key players and people.
You can be getting good results above but have some very lazy, destructive sods. Sooner or later it catches up. That is where Norwood is at. They are paying the price for a lazy few yrs while they were successful and it caught up with them. Pritchard, who is great for that club but has lots of hard work ahead of him.
old and gray
Years ago
I suspect that many Div 2 coaches are often happy to stay at Div 2 at a strong club , where the development work is done for them the year before by the previous age groups Div 1 coach, rather than transfer to a weak club and have to start from scratch.
it seems that it is more likely that some div 1 coach gets the proverbials about not getting the appointment they wanted ( or their kids getting not getting theirs) and then shift elsewhere.
old and gray
Years ago
also - how can you 'rate' a div 2 coach if it's the div 1 coach that runs the training for both teams ? IMHO , more games are won by the work done in training than by the decision of the coach in the game.
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