Camel 31
Years ago

36ers @ Perth 17 Oct

I'd guess if your agent said that he's got a gig with the Lakers in Summer League, then you'd go for it.
Luke might be the difference , in a close game , with Burston's hand injury.

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Bruce Beck  
Years ago

I think it was double overtime last season.
My heart is telling me... Sixers by a point.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

don't think my heart will stand another 1 point game

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Big luke will be eager to return form.i expect a 18-10-2 block night from him.perth by 7

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Confused  
Years ago

Id like to see perth utilise him properly. They havent gotten him the ball like guys like Jacob Holmes did last season. If he gets it consistantly, 6ers are in big trouble...at the other end, who will Luke have to guard if burston is out? Balls will draw him out and there will be space for our guards to do what they do best....PENETRATE! Tactics will win this game more than it would be a factor in other games.

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joshuapending  
Years ago

is there a radio stream at all? i know the video thing is available.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

In 'sixers' category is the radio link.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth by 12

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

danger game for Sixers. I say "F@&^ it", go for broke boys!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is the game starting at 9:30pm Adelaide time? Can't wait to watch this on Rivus TV.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sixers are 3.85 for win.

GReat odds in a 2 horse race. Perth havent exactly been settled so far this season.

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skip  
Years ago

Paid to watch my first game on Rivus. Fingers crossed it all goes well.

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Nino  
Years ago

Yeah me too skip! Good to see it haha

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Beantown  
Years ago

I'm tuning in to Rivus for the first time tonight as well. Looking forward to the game. Hope Burston is ready to go and the Sixers put a good game together. Lets go boys!

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illicit  
Years ago

yeah my 1st time usin rivus too hope it goes well, but i cant look at scensch in wildcats colours, hes a 6ers to me lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is anyone missing audio on the live video stream?

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mentalballer  
Years ago

Yeah Im missing audio too

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yep

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XztatiK  
Years ago

Ok me 3. The payment was shaky and I got no audio.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I've gone to the wildcats website and am streaming audio from there. Seems to be ok

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new to this  
Years ago

Anyone know why there would be no sound?

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Hershey  
Years ago

OK, so where's the audio?!!

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skip  
Years ago

Sweet, Radio and TV are perfectly in sync.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

did they just line up for the national anthem!? which the nbl supposedly got rid of. if so boti must be going crazy wherever he is atm

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cattalini to have a big game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

PERTH 6-2 LEAD

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Anonymous  
Years ago

11-5 perth

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Beantown  
Years ago

Skip what radio station is playing the game? I have just gone through the entire dial (FM and AM) and got nothing!

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skip  
Years ago

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,25048786-5005401,00.html

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XztatiK  
Years ago

lost connection

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How do you get audio through the Wildcats website?

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skip  
Years ago

Yea, Ex Idol COurtney Murphy sung the anthem. Ive lost vision. :-(

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Beantown  
Years ago

Thanks, have the audio now!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

me too

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Anonymous  
Years ago

but no video! wtf!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

ah its back again

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Awesome no audio and now no vision.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

redhage is a aller

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Anonymous  
Years ago

baller

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Anonymous  
Years ago

30-17 perth

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joshuapending  
Years ago

man they are killing it from the outside.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

what the number to sms the wildcats radio commentators any1 kno?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

just paid for rivus and there's no audio. where can i listen?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cattalini is balling

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ritz  
Years ago

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,25048786-5005401,00.html

live radio link

http://linky.com.au/1vtjw

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth looking fantastic.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

36-19 perth

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Do rivus provide refunds if it's not working properly?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This is so budget, where is the bloody audio? Quarter time and the games pretty much over anyway.

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Beantown  
Years ago

Ouch the Cats have come out red hot tonight. Sixers need to close their shooters a little better, but having said that, they haven't been that poor. More just the Cats moving the ball very well. 17 point hole will be tough to recover from!

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Hershey  
Years ago

Got good audio now, thanks Skip.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No Rivus didnt for me. They said they were going to refund those who paid for the 36ers/Crocs game but never did for me.

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joshuapending  
Years ago

yeah were in a bit of trouble

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confused  
Years ago

50-25 in 2nd....GAME OVER ALREADY

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth on fire

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Beantown  
Years ago

Groves doing a good job of penetrating but our big guys need to catch the dam ball!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Weigh is a gun

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Anonymous  
Years ago

heard from rivus that in the kit that Adelaide packed for tonite they had a dud audio cable with no spare.
Trying to find one at venue

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Anonymous  
Years ago

frankenstien enters

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Anonymous  
Years ago

why do we turn it over every possession and WHY CANT WE EVEN CATCH!!?

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Beantown  
Years ago

Props to Coops, doing a good job defensively tonight.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

redhage mr effecient

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Anonymous  
Years ago

how does the quality of this stream compare to the stream of the 36ers home games so far??

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XztatiK  
Years ago

Shit.

Time for a Townsville 3rd qtr.

Do your best Homicide immitation, Pitbull

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great stuff, we give up 61 points in the first half, down by 22 and Groves is still stinking up the joint.

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confused  
Years ago

SOOOOOO bad on the road, very depressing. We are so good at home, just be competitive on the road is all i want

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Anonymous  
Years ago

PERTH 61-39 HT

Weigh 14
Redhage 13
Robbins 9
Schencher 6
Cattalini 5

Adelaide

Ballinger 10
Gilchrist 9
Holmes 6

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Anonymous  
Years ago

61 in 20minutes....enough said

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Camel 31  
Years ago

David Cooper 10mins 5Rbs 1as 1stl 1blk 4pts FG2/3
Is our best.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Well this is why perth are so highly thought of. they still havent clicked yet..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

rivus has fozen - this is such a waste of money.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hasnt for me! Bad game from 6ers point of view, BUT not a waste of money at all. maybe your internet is slow

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Anonymous  
Years ago

my internet isn't slow - it just came back on (still no audio)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

all good for me. Loving being able to watch from home for $5

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XztatiK  
Years ago

Tell the douchebag in front of the camera to sit down.

and now the radio and video is out of sync.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lisch is a defensive workhorse

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Due to the audio stuff up I have been in contact with rivus. While the problem is out of their hands their customer service has been OUTSTANDING

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Commentators are starting to bug me, but i guess its better than just having the live stats. And yeah its a bit out of sync which sucks. I think that if the 6ers were winning itd all be alot more bareable though!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

hopelessly out of sync now

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Anonymous  
Years ago

pendantic stuff

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Anonymous  
Years ago

cattalini and ballinger going at it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cattmando with 7 quick points

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XztatiK  
Years ago

15secs out?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WILDCATS 78-53

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cattalini still got it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

thanyoou ninja. 5 more please

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XztatiK  
Years ago

If you exit the stream then open it again it's almost in sync.

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Jonno  
Years ago

should we give gerlapp a go??? he did well in pre season

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cattalini to willamson money

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Anonymous  
Years ago

36ers suck

Hawks and Crocs are the 2 best teams at the moment

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pretty poor though from Rivus. Missed a good chunk of the first half of 36ers/Crocs, was choppy the rest of the way and missed the game winning shot and now problems in the first quarter tonight, no audio all game (even dropped too far behind the radio coverage to bother with) and choppy most of the night. Two games and both have been very sub-standard efforts, $10 down the drain.

I think I've learnt my lesson and will stick to the professional coverage on Fox. Three games next week including the 36ers/Tigers game on wednesday night is good enough for me.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

To have guys like cattalini, robbins, wagstaff and willamson off the bench is an amazing luxtuary

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah - I won't bother with Rivus again. Groves shooting 2/10

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Anonymous  
Years ago

to give up 84 points in 30minutes of bball is just pathetic and they deserve to loose

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Anonymous  
Years ago

you must realise that its the 36ers who have been having issues, not rivus. It's just broadcasted through rivus. You also need to realise that this is still the initial stage and problems are still being ironed out. Give it another chance in a weeks time or so.

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XztatiK  
Years ago

Don't think I'll pay $5 for that again.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It would be fair enough to ask people to give it a chance if it was free but when you pay for something you should get what you're paying for.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WHY have cooper and garlepp on when we need best line up possible on floor!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wagstaff=roy

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thjey shouldn't start charging people until they've got a product which works. Where can I ask for a refund?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Schenscher dominating on both ends

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Big luke starting to get in ominus form for us(perth)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Exactly, I wouldn't even bother watching their broadcasts for free so charging people $5 a game for seriously sub-standard stuff is pretty rich.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lisch is starting show some moves

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Anonymous  
Years ago

hopefully rivus product improves.

was it better than this for the game vs NZ?

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joshuapending  
Years ago

ouch

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gilchrist and Groves - 11 turnovers between them

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good old soft as putty 36ers on the road with the 30 point loss. So disappointing on the road, year in year out with big blowout losses.

Groves watch: 4 pts, 2 ast, 1 reb, 5 to's 2-10 FG, 0-2 3pts

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I've seen some pretty good streams through rivus. Actually i thought it was weird there was only 1 camera tonite. on the other ones ive seen there was a scoreboard and a close up too.

despite a couple of big things like the glitch in the 1 quarter and the lack of audio i thought the video was good quality. not really forgivable though.

I wouldnt pay 5 bucks for tonite but if it was consistantly like the other ones ive seen i would pay.

I would actually like a press release from someone explaining what happened and what is going to happen during the season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

FT PERTH 110 ADELAIDE 80

Weigh 18
Redhage 15
Cattalini 13
Scenscher 13
Willamson 13
Robbins 12
lisch 10


Adelaide

NG 16
Ballinger 13
Gilchrist 13
holmes 10

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Anonymous  
Years ago

the other you games you have seen, where they 36ers or nbl games?

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Hershey  
Years ago

Don't give up on this so easily. Live streaming is a great idea and its still in its inception. $10 is not a lot to lose to give the idea chance. It's great when it works and I believe, like a lot of things, its just going to take time to get it streamlined. Be patient!

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barra  
Years ago

how can 2 top line players have a 6from 20 and give up 11 turnovers is b/s what about team play dont just shoot and hope for the best lets tal about defence what defence you say dead right we have none how can you give up 110 points in 40 minutes of ball thank christ we did not have to play 48 minutes we would have lost by 60 points .PLEASE FIX THE PROBLEM ABOUT D

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XztatiK  
Years ago

Most of Gilchrist's turnovers were because people were dropping his passes, and they were good passes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

one was NBL game and the other was the 4 Nations U19 Bball which was a while ago now.

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Beantown  
Years ago

Top effort by the Cats tonight. They came out with a plan and executed it to perfection. Thought Gilchrist looked reasonably composed breaking their traps early, but as the game wore on the TO's started to mount. 11 between our two main playmakers is a very bad night out.

Cats did a good job of coming off screens, getting themselves just enough space to get the shot off in the first quarter and they were good enough to knock them down. Have to say I'm very surprised as I didn't pick the Cats to be that great a long range team!

Burston's fitness is really hurting the Sixers now. We need more from him, particularly defensively when up against guys like Schenscher.

The Sixers just aren't as well drilled as the Cats at the moment. They rely too much on creating off the dribble, forget to move the ball enough and don't find a way to get Balls enough shots when it counts.

Their other problem is that not enough guys seem confident shooting from the perimeter. Apart from Ng and Balls, no-one really has shown a reliable jumpshot.

Only positives for me were Coops and Herbert, who both scrapped hard. Holmes was solid as always but is never going to carry the team when its stars don't perform.

Disappointing effort on the road again. Scotty, you gotta figure it out mate!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cattalini is still a beast

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth arent firing at full cylinder and neither is adelaide.i think by mid-season we'll have a truer indication. but the cats bnch is full of deadly shooters/scorers. cattalini, willamson, wagstaff and even robbins are fntastic bench

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Anonymous  
Years ago

how do you give up 110 points in 40 mins? groves will be the next import to be cut. totally wrong for this team

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dave  
Years ago

nowhere near good enough. very disappointing but will be good to see how they come out against the tigers on wednesday night.

getting tired of losing the same road trips year in year out. time to find a psychologist who can work the boys over n get results.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

can do a lot better than groves to suit this team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

$10 isnt really worth worrying about which is why I wouldn't bother chasing them for refunds but I've seen two games through Rivus now and while tonight's effort was slightly better than the last game both were very unprofessional broadcasts.

It's one thing to blow $10 but when you're genuinely expecting something for that money and both times they fail to deliver it's annoying enough for me not to bother with them again.

Live streaming NBL games is a great idea but you shouldn't be charging people $5 each time if you can't deliver an even halfway decent product. Simple as that.

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william 34  
Years ago

hawks are awsome

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william 34  
Years ago

I think that ninnis is trying to share around the minutes too much. im sure balls was playing 36 minutes last season in a 48 minute game, why should he play any less?

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Tech Head  
Years ago

253315

Totally agree with you!!!!!!!!!
I watched {tried to watch} the other 36ers game that didn't work, didn't worry about a refund,it was more the inconvience of having friends over to watch it and it failed and had to reconnect all the time.
Then a mate came over tonight to watch it again and thankfully we got too busy talking about basketball to worry about trying to watch itother wise it sounded like it would have been another night of frustration!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good idea, especially when people don't seem interested in broadcasting games but it needs to run properly before charging or promoting

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LMSC  
Years ago

All those who paid fot the stream

It's VERY important to note that Rivis is NOT responsible for the broadcast. They are just the streaming provider. It is the CLUB'S reposnsibility to provide the broadcast inclding vision, sound and commentary.



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KingJames  
Years ago

Can anyone tell me why the hell Herbert plays the first 9 minutes of the game? He hasn't done anything in the previous 3 games yet Ninnis continues to persist with him! He ends up playing 26 minutes and Ballinger plays 28 minutes yes that sounds fair! Herbert should be anchored to the Bench until he actually produces! Otherwise we might as well have mark Nash out there! Ng has been tearing it up perhaps he was under an injury cloud but still Groves deserves the minutes over Herbert!

Can someone tell me was Burston fine to play? He got limited minutes in the first then didn't play in the second quarter. Played the rest of his minutes in the 3rd and didn't play in the 4th. Perhaps the result was already decided so they only gave him limited minutes. If he was good enough to play, start him at Center, stop making a stupid decision and starting Ballinger at Center!!! Furthermore, do not start Holmes at Power forward!!!!!!!! Ballinger is 6'8. Holmes is 6'7 and too slow to play small forward and to small to play power forward yet we start with this disadvantaged team every week!

Groves had another horrible game. If he doesn't perform next game they should start the process of thinking of cutting him. Larry Abney, Rosell Ellis, Tremell Darden and Isaiah Victor are all more suitable imports then Groves!

Would Jacob Holmes start for any other team in the league?? i doubt it but I guess Ninnis has no other choice since we don't have any other bigs!

A 30 point loss is pathetic and not acceptable by the coaches and the players!!! An embarrassing effort!!! Another road Failure!!! Sure we might win against Tigers on Wednesday at home and Ninnis and the players will get pats on the back and everything will be forgiven by most but that is still not good enough!

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Bill  
Years ago

Only read the box scores but if Perth shoot that well, it's always going to be a blowout.
You have a small athletic team, how did you give up so many threes (please don't tell me you zoned)?

Worries for Sixers though as Beantown points out are the turnovers (that doesn't reflect too good on Gilchrist) and not getting Ballinger involved offensively.

The margin makes any further analysis irrelevant. Thankfully you've got the Tigers who don't seem to be able to hit the side of a barn at the moment.

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EC  
Years ago

Beantown, I agree on this comment. "Top effort by the Cats tonight. They came out with a plan and executed it to perfection."

Now I am still waiting for Ninnis to do the same for his team. Another season, same crap.

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KingJames  
Years ago

Sorry for my drunken rant :P However, some of my points are valid.

It's just a fact that we shouldn't be losing by that much. If the other team is dominating and are going to win thats fine but at least win a quarter! At least get some positives going into the next game.

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paul  
Years ago

KJ, I think you should be worried if it happens again. Teams can have bad nights, and Perth were certainly hot looking at the stats.

The Sixers are still 2-2 and while improvement is needed, they are already around the mark, which is good considering they have brought in 5 new players, including 3 starters.

Melbourne at home should be a win, but Cairns on the road will be a big test.

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Beantown  
Years ago

King James, I generally agree with you. It wasn't a good enough effort from the Sixers last night. As well as their execution, Perth were really intense on both ends in the first quarter. Our guys tried to respond with poise to the pressure, but the intensity never ramped up to match the Cats, and that was what was needed in that situation. A team with a bit of mongrel would have sat a few guys on their asses and tried to disrupt their opponents run.

In the end it is tough when the home team comes out and plays that well in the first quarter, but a championship level team would have fought their way back into the match and we were never able to do that.

One thing that everyone should remember though is that we are not a championship level team. Scotty has only just put this team together and they will have some growing pains. Gilchrist, Groves, Burston and Herbert are all new key players. Guys like Hill and Ng, who we need to get big contributions from, have never had the responsibility of being such key players. Burston and Hill have both been injured, preventing the team from meshing the way it needs to.

I think a big part of the reason we are seeing Balls, Holmes and Herbert starting is because of those two key injuries. Burston not being fully fit leaves us extraordinarily thin up front, because we only have Coops off the bench to spell Holmes and Balls. Hill being injured has forced us to run with Herbert as a starter and while I thought he was good last night, he needs to start making some more shots as he was during pre-season to justify starting if Hill gets fit.

Now Groves is a real puzzle for me. Every time I have seen him this year he has looked pretty solid on the court. He generally handles the ball well and still gets to the basket with ease, but at the end of the game, too often he does seem to end up with horrendous scoring lines like last night.

I do quite like Groves, but I have to say that the team balance does seem a bit off, because we have too many slashers and not enough guys who seem to be able to make a shot outside the keyway! It might be that Groves was just the best guy the team could get for the money they were willing to spend on the second import, but I think what the team needs more than anything is an import who is primarily a deadly jumpshooter but can also defend and rebound solidly.

Anyway, Perth certainly exposed some of the flaws in our team tonight, but we shouldn't get too morose over one flogging! The team is still 2-2 and has a good shot at being 3-2 after playing the wounded Tigers next week.

p.s. Bill - it wasn't zoning that allowed the Cats to nail so many threes early, they were just running guards along the baseline, around low picks and out to the arc. That was getting them just enough time to knock shots down. There was quite often a Sixer on the scene, but just a split second too late. That offence, combined with Perth's trapping to get the ball out of Gilchrists hands, meant that the Sixers were constantly under the pump and not given much chance to run their offence properly. Thats why I give a lot of credit to Perth for the win.

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Bill  
Years ago

Thanks for clearing that up Beantown.
Sixers are still going to have to eliminate TO's if they want to be competitive. All teams will trap now, to get the ball out of Gilchrist's hands and let someone else come up with decision msking.
Ng seems to be the most capable (on paper) at the moment?
Is his time limited because of his defence?
Could he play more minutes?

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KingJames  
Years ago

Great analysis Beantown!

Injuries have certainty disrupted the team.

We are very limited up front and Burston being injured and Cooper being, well Cooper, the coaching staff couldn't do much more with those positions.

It was a bad loss but it is still early in the season and with the new team it will take time. However, effort levels needs to be addressed as we can't be losing by 30 points in a 40 minute game!

Also you are probably right Groves was probably a budget import and could possibly still come good. However, they have to be realistic and start thinking about the possibility of replacing him if he doesn't improve his performances.

Finally, if Ng is fit they should put him in front of Herbert (as long as the other team isn't too big). or ideally if Burston is not injured put him in the line up at center. Remove Herbert and drop ballinger and holmes to the power forward and small forward positions.

Wednesdays game against Melbourne will be interesting. If we lose that there should start to be pressure on Ninnis (not in terms of sacking him but rather that he needs to get a better performance out of this time) as well as groves if he doesn't perform. I think we should be able to win though

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vanexel31  
Years ago

Groves is going to be inconsistent, since the Gong days he always has been. We will get some decent games here and there from him, but he will give us at least one horrible game out of every 3.

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twenty four  
Years ago

Eh, Groves may have not put up great numbers, but he was the only one (probably along with Holmes and Cooooop) who actually seemed to give a shit last night. Forced it at times, but if a few of drives that rimmed out go in, his line looks a lot better.

Mind you, I'm certainly not in the Groves corner and wasn't overly happy with the signing, but when hardly anyone shows up, the guys that are trying are going to end up looking worse than they actually were.

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paul  
Years ago

I heard he also had big guys blow a few good passes. I dont think you can judge one player on a night where most of the team was very poor - that said, Groves does need to up his output.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Herbert should be anchored to the Bench until he actually produces!
You know that defense thing everyone is always asking for?
Can someone tell me was Burston fine to play?
Probably a bit borderline, so got a few careful minutes and then likely rested a bit.
Furthermore, do not start Holmes at Power forward!!!!!!!!
Holmes is a power forward. And Ballinger is no shorter than Coops, so probably the best option to start in the middle if Burston is recovering from the hand injury.

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bretts the man  
Years ago

When myself and others wanted better back up for Burston when Cooper signed many qouted as Isaac did in his post about Ballinger at centre but the trouble is he is crap playing there and gets taken out of game scoring wise and no under the ring Defence.
With this team we need 20 ppg ave out of Ballinger.
So when move him to there the team suffers in my opinion.
Can only hope Burston can play every gam from here on in.

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Isaac  
Years ago

I only said Ballinger would end up playing a bit of centre as that was what I'd heard. Not pretending that anyone wouldn't want a better back-up than Cooper, but salary cap and points cap come into play. Funnily enough, Cooper was good in this game, and Ballinger (starting at centre) shot at a good clip and was (from those watching the game) one of the only highlights for Adelaide early on.

Where this game was lost was their defense at guard pressuring Gilchrist and Groves into 11 turnovers between them, and a bunch of Wildcats having a field day hitting shots. Must turn it around by Wednesday because Melbourne have shown enough in patches that they can catch a team napping and build a solid lead.

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bretts the man  
Years ago

Was not being critical of your statement just that been used before and we seem to lose a consistent threat as a scorer when Adam at centre as seems to get covered easier.
Now that Brett not there we need to find that scorer when our game shut down and I only see Adam that can consistently do that role .
Also dont want him getting cheap fouls in that possie which can happen.
Interesting that Coops is the one player that seems to do a little better away that at home .
However cant say that is that hard though on home game efforts.
May feel a little less pressure.
We have got what we have got but maybe just sacrifice the centre with Garlepp and Cooper there until Hill returns and Burston fully fit

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