I think everyone is eagerly awaiting the U12 Boys Grand Final.

Early betting is for a Norwood-Sturt GF.

I'm pretty sure the last few meetings have been decided by only a few points, i don't think its going to be as one sided as anonymous thinks

Just checked the table. So they have a good player Anonymous. Sounds like the game. Any others of interest!!!!!

Just checked the table. So they have a good player Anonymous. Sounds like the game. Any others of interest!!!!!

Anonymous 287674:

Have you ever watch U/12 Basketball there are some really talented players out there from all clubs and some of the games are fantastic to watch. The skills that some of these players have are incredible for their age. Keep up the good work U/12 players Boys & Girls.

it is great that these kids are out exercising and participating in basketball. And the pressure of winning is an important factor for these kids. This helps drive and motivate kids to become better and achieve goals. You want to know who cares about who beats who? The kids, thats who. I know the kids I see play from all clubs seem to be happier when they win. Nobody plays to loose. kids love to win and be competitive. Thats life! Maybe you need to get one.Nothing like seeing young kids deal with and overcome pressure. Good lesson in life.

This is ridiculous. When a team performs well all year but fails at State Champs, everyone says they failed when it mattered. Norwood didn't do that - they won State Champs, proving they have been the best team this year.

So now people start using the excuse that they failed at Classics, as a reason to hang crap on them.

There was a team a couple of years ago who won all year, medalled at Classics but missed out at State Champs. People here said they failed because they missed out on the big one. Make up your minds!

At the end of the day, these are young kids who are very good at their game. Respect them and let them play. That applies to Norwood and Sturt boys.

I am sure it is not Sturt people doing this. Sturt and Norwood have an enormous respect for each other. It's people from the crappy clubs (Woodville and the like), who really have no idea.

Wow nix12 couldn't have said it better myself!!!!!!!! I know at norwood under 12's there is nothing but repect for sturt.

Looks like there is only one game..............

#740 - you are just proving my point. There is enormous respect amongst the big 3 clubs - Sturt, Norwood and Eagles. As for the rest, well...maybe get your own backyard in order becaus you are a LONG way behind.

So you are suggesting Norwood people approached kids from another club after a game? If you have evidence (which of course you don't), you should pass it on to Arnie, because that stuff is really not on.

1) as a player and a new coach i have never had the chance to go to classics or even be in state champs, could some please explain why these two carnivals are so important and how they are any different to Easter classics or st clair xmas carnival or mildura carnival.
2) other than under 12s any interesting grand finals to be seen, im certainly interested in the u14/1 girls i think that should be a good game.

why are people from woodville so angry? any ideas?

I think it's parents looking for quality coaching that is leading to them changing clubs ? Naturally people look for this with their kids.

Probably upset the way the refs get intimidated by the coach...............

If my daughter played for Sturt I would not consider I was at one of the big 3 Clubs.

Results from Under 10 and up

4th, 3rd, 5th, 4th and 2nd

Mid table at best.

Really, which other clubs has U10 - U21 girls all 5th and above?

STURT IS the Superpower!!!!!!!!!!!!

#949 - if you want to quote me that's fine, but please don't just make stuff up.

#945 - Actually I agree with you, however Sturt in particular seem to place a higher emphasis on State Champs than winter. Each to their own I guess.

State champs 1
Classics 2
Winter 3
Eltham/Easter 4
Summer 5

State Champs is all about doing it for your club. It's not just for qualifications, it's for the club trophies. If points/trophies were handed out for winter season finals instead of state champs (which I think is how Vic does it?) you'd see a shift in emphasis from Sturt I think.

Winning for your club is the ultimate, and winning against the best teams in the country at Classics is a very close 2nd. Winning either would qualify as a great year, winning both is extremely rare for an SA team but is a fantastic achievement.

Winter season is nice and all but to me (and I reckon if you asked a Sturt person they'd agree, though I think people at my club may disagree) it's a pretty distant 3rd to the big 2 tourneys.

Can't compare.
Physically and mentally, tournaments require a different skill set. Concentration, stamina, pick yourself up after defeat come into it much more during a tounament than during Friiday night games. Sturt do well at tournaments because selection and training focus on the required mental attitude.

I think also when coming to the winter finals, everyone is looking forward to the break and if you do not win the whole thing it is not the end of the world. For me: 1. State Champs, Classics, Eltham (start of the year) and then Winter.

Championship or (A) grade as they call it in Eltham has never been wrong, not sure about the other grades.

Looks to me this should have been called the U/12 sturt / norwood forum

Anybody else want to discuss any other finals

EG What about all the who ha after summer grand final in 18 one boys and what about 16 boys where sturt have dominated with this group of boys for previous years, but have failed to be forrestville this year

I'm sure there are probably are lot of interesting things in numerous age groups that could be discussed as per the the original topic instead of just these 2 teams

Under 18 Boys Fianls series should be fascinating.

Four quality teams, with Sturt top with there two losses against Southern who are 4th.

Southern need to beat Norwood who the usually struggle with and would probably have preferred to be playing Mavs or Sturt.

Mavs have wood on Norwood and split games with Southern did not beat Sturt.

WestBearcub, I have had to reply in 3 parts as the message was too long. Please read through. in a Nut Shell ....
Part 1 - State Champs are a weekend style tournament played in May in which all Div 1 and Div 2 district teams compete for points for their Clubs. There are points to be gained in each Div/Age/Sex category and in the end there is a State Champion Club in each category plus overall by sex and total overall. In Div 2, if a club has 2 teams they need to nominate the one that is competing for points, the other one can only create damage for the other clubs. The top 4 Div1 teams in each Year/Sex are also invited to participate in the Junior Classic in Melbourne. In my opinion the Victorian system is a lot fairer, as by doing it this way teams that might have sick or injured players over that single weekend could be heavily penalized. SA trialed in 2009 a system where the ranking at round 9 (after each team has had a chance to play all other teams) was used and personally I feel this to be a better system.

Part 2 - The Classic is the most prestigious Club tournament in Australia, with the exception of the National Club Championship held only for U14 and U18. The Classic is by invitation only and generally the top 4 Div 1 teams from SA are invited. The U12 and U14 are played in Albert Park and the U16 and U18 in Dandenong. This is is a benchmark type tournament were the top team across Australia keep checking over the years how they are progressing. Of course this isn't always fair as most top Clubs keep poaching kids from other clubs in an attempt to get better! Very few SA Clubs and teams in particular have had the privilege to win a Classic! Sturt here is the undisputed leader and the only SA Club with wins in the U12 & U14 !
Sturt with 10 wins (U12B 2009 - U12G 2005 - U14B 2006 - U14G 1999 2006 - U16B 1997 - U16G 1979 1982 - U18B 1990 1995)
West Adelaide with 5 wins (U16G 1980 1982 - U18B 1991 1994 - U18G 1985)
North Adelaide with 4 wins (U16B 1991 1992 - U16G 1979 1982)
Norwood with 2 wins (U16G 1991 - U18G 1992)
Eastern Mavericks with 1 wins (U18G 2005)
Woodville with 1 wins (U18B 1999)

Part 3 - Now, as far as Finals to watch, this Friday I would recommend the U14 Div1 Final between Eagles and Mavs. This should be a very good and interesting game. The winner will play in the Gran Final the Sturt U14 boys who have never lost a game in Div 1 since U10. Yet anything can happen in Grand Finals ! Following this game the U18 Div 1 Men Sturt vs Norwood will also be a great game to watch. Plus the atmosphear at the Sturt Club Room is always great! ;-)

"with the exception of the National Club Championship held only for U14 and U18. "



opti - I have never heard of u18 national club championships like u14s ???

Sorry, my mistake, too much copy and pasting, I meant to have Boys and Girls.